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Originally Posted by BlkNismo I am always willing to accept constructive criticism and appreciate all that put forth info into this thread. I was primarily looking for feedback on build

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Old 01-08-2013, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am always willing to accept constructive criticism and appreciate all that put forth info into this thread.

I was primarily looking for feedback on build components itself, however much of the feedback here is geared towards scrapping the idea of built short block and keeping the oem block.

It is always a risk tearing the motor down and rebuilding. As stated just because your putting forged components in, if install or tolerances are not on spec, disaster will come shortly later. Many are running more then my goal on oem internals; maybe I should just set aside funds for the block if it is needed down the road. Yes, it may or may not be needed, I may end up spending more money down the road on labor...decisions decisions...

Setting money aside just is case is a wise choice keep your eye out for a spare block. I got lucky and found a spare long block for really cheap right here on the forum, I grabbed it even though my stock one is built already.
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i have a question. first off this thread has had lots of good questions and info so far so

my question is with a stage 2 kit and a stock block you guys are saying 550WHP is about the max "safe" power? i keep going back and forth on if i'm going FI or not based on my upgraded transmission price woes. my real goal is to get a stage 2 TT kit and run 10-12PSI hopefully hitting 500WHP minimum. i do DD my car in the warm months. right now it's put away for winter. i drive pretty normal to and from work but i do take it to the 1/4 mile strips once or twice a month for a couple runs. i wonder ifi can get away with that and keeping a stock block?
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i have a question. first off this thread has had lots of good questions and info so far so

my question is with a stage 2 kit and a stock block you guys are saying 550WHP is about the max "safe" power? i keep going back and forth on if i'm going FI or not based on my upgraded transmission price woes. my real goal is to get a stage 2 TT kit and run 10-12PSI hopefully hitting 500WHP minimum. i do DD my car in the warm months. right now it's put away for winter. i drive pretty normal to and from work but i do take it to the 1/4 mile strips once or twice a month for a couple runs. i wonder ifi can get away with that and keeping a stock block?
From various dyno graphs posted, the stage 2 pushing 10 psi + on stock compression exeeds 500whp easily.
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From various dyno graphs posted, the stage 2 pushing 10 psi + on stock compression exeeds 500whp easily.
i'm just hoping if i go that route with TT i want 500WHP atleast but not trying to dump 3k more into the block when i'll be dropping 6k on the GTM upgraded transmission since i have a 7AT
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i'm just hoping if i go that route with TT i want 500WHP atleast but not trying to dump 3k more into the block when i'll be dropping 6k on the GTM upgraded transmission since i have a 7AT
I'm stage 2 but I'm 6mt. 500whp will not be a problem. Read my earlier post about driving habits and u could use that as a guideline somewhat. These motors r pretty strong already. I take good care of my car, that being said I use the stage 2 the way it was meant to be used! I have 1 map only and it's set at 12lbs. Well I got 2 maps but I'll never turn down boost! I'm always itching to turn it up!
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I'm stage 2 but I'm 6mt. 500whp will not be a problem. Read my earlier post about driving habits and u could use that as a guideline somewhat. These motors r pretty strong already. I take good care of my car, that being said I use the stage 2 the way it was meant to be used! I have 1 map only and it's set at 12lbs. Well I got 2 maps but I'll never turn down boost! I'm always itching to turn it up!
i'm probably like you then because i dont ever see myself running a "low boost" map at like 5-6 psi. just set it at 10-12psi to hit the numbers/performance i want without going too high and blowing my engine lol
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Setting money aside just is case is a wise choice keep your eye out for a spare block. I got lucky and found a spare long block for really cheap right here on the forum, I grabbed it even though my stock one is built already.
That's what I'm going to do. Hopefully I can get lucky enough to find another motor.
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That's what I'm going to do. Hopefully I can get lucky enough to find another motor.
i was on my account looking at wrecked and totaled 370's with intact motor and transmissions to see if it would be cheaper to go that route for spares lol
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i was on my account looking at wrecked and totaled 370's with intact motor and transmissions to see if it would be cheaper to go that route for spares lol
Not a bad idea. Yank the drivetrain and try to part out whatever is left. You would have to get the car for dirt cheap though.
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Not a bad idea. Yank the drivetrain and try to part out whatever is left. You would have to get the car for dirt cheap though.
prices arent too bad for some of them. my favorite one was a convertible that was completely burnt from the rear end to the dash. engine was perfect lol
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prices arent too bad for some of them. my favorite one was a convertible that was completely burnt from the rear end to the dash. engine was perfect lol
What prices are you seeing for mid to rear damaged Z (with engine fine)?
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What prices are you seeing for mid to rear damaged Z (with engine fine)?
depends really. the one i spoke of having rear fire damage only has 6500 miles on it but isnt up for auction yet. i've been looking at previews for upcoming auctions.

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clean engine. this one is in austin tx i think
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