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How about a stage 1 @ 10psi if possible or a Stage 2 at 8psi to compare apples to apples...the way you have this comparison laid out doesn't make sense.

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Old 05-17-2011, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How about a stage 1 @ 10psi if possible or a Stage 2 at 8psi to compare apples to apples...the way you have this comparison laid out doesn't make sense.
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How about a stage 1 @ 10psi if possible or a Stage 2 at 8psi to compare apples to apples...the way you have this comparison laid out doesn't make sense.
Because stage 1 is within its efficiency range at 8PSI and stage 2 is at 10PSI, it is designed to show you how a stage 2 kit can go farther than a stage 1.
Which is also why Sam said the stage 2 does not need a smaller pulley as it did not show any increase in power, similar with the stage 1.
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Because stage 1 is within its efficiency range at 8PSI and stage 2 is at 10PSI, it is designed to show you how a stage 2 kit can go farther than a stage 1.
Which is also why Sam said the stage 2 does not need a smaller pulley as it did not show any increase in power, similar with the stage 1.


It has more to do with the supercharger being maxed out ,and to much over lap. The stage 2 flows 11% more than the stage 1, if you compare the two dyno charts that Sam posted it adds up to that.
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It has more to do with the supercharger being maxed out ,and to much over lap. The stage 2 flows 11% more than the stage 1, if you compare the two dyno charts that Sam posted it adds up to that.
That is what I am saying, the efficiency range of the stage 1 is at its max. So trying to run a higher PSI or a lower PSI, on stage 2, is not a worthwhile test.
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That is what I am saying, the efficiency range of the stage 1 is at its max. So trying to run a higher PSI or a lower PSI, on stage 2, is not a worthwhile test.
It can be done with the Stage 2 unit it would just need to have a bigger pulley to slow the unit down.

I do see you point now however, with both units using the same pulley now it doesnt make sense.
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Because stage 1 is within its efficiency range at 8PSI and stage 2 is at 10PSI, it is designed to show you how a stage 2 kit can go farther than a stage 1.
Which is also why Sam said the stage 2 does not need a smaller pulley as it did not show any increase in power, similar with the stage 1.
What part of "if possible" from my post above did you not understand?

I am looking into learning the 3.7's "potential" more and figured what you had posted above. But again a stage 2 @ 8psi would be a nice comparison.
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What part of "if possible" from my post above did you not understand?
Again, read the thread.
Not going to muddy up this thread.
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What part of "if possible" from my post above did you not understand?

I am looking into learning the 3.7's "potential" more and figured what you had posted above. But again a stage 2 @ 8psi would be a nice comparison.
I understand what your talking about Alberto Sam is the only one that can do that though.
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Ugh! I stay off of the forums for 24 hours and I miss this thread. Andrew had to tell me about it. The "lower" power car Sam has is a G not a Z. He using a couple of cars for testing the Stage 2, mine being one of them. Went to GTM today. It's the home stretch for the S2!!!! Whew!! My patience was wearing thin (shut up Andrew!!), poor Sam for having to deal with me too. Sam thinks my car should be done within 2 weeks (again SHUT UP ANDREW!!!! ). I'm using my ipad, so I'm not sure I can post pics from here. Any ideas, anyone?

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Ugh! I stay off of the forums for 24 hours and I miss this thread. Andrew had to tell me about it. The "lower" power car Sam has is a G not a Z. He using a couple of cars for testing the Stage 2, mine being one of them. Went to GTM today. It's the home stretch for the S2!!!! Whew!! My patience was wearing thin (shut up Andrew!!), poor Sam for having to deal with me too. Sam thinks my car should be done within 2 weeks (again SHUT UP ANDREW!!!! ). I'm using my ipad, so I'm not sure I can post pics from here. Any ideas, anyone?

Put the pics on a hosted site or up load them on your forum account. Then paste the code. Boom, Done.
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How about a stage 1 @ 10psi if possible or a Stage 2 at 8psi to compare apples to apples...the way you have this comparison laid out doesn't make sense.
I believe the issue with the STG 1 blower was that it couldn't get up that high reliably because it flows less and because of the VVEL overlap issue. That's why, as Sam has pointed out, the STG 1 blower on a 350Z made more HP.
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How about a stage 1 @ 10psi if possible or a Stage 2 at 8psi to compare apples to apples...the way you have this comparison laid out doesn't make sense.
That would be nice to see. Most likely the stage 2 SC @ 8lbs. Will be very close to the stage 1.
Each stage kit shows about a 7% increase HP per pound of boost.
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