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Old 05-31-2011, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Im so glad that i bought the GTM traction control with launch control.
Sam said im going to need it.
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Im so glad that i bought the GTM traction control with launch control.
Sam said im going to need it.
What is that? Part of the reflash?
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What is that? Part of the reflash?
It is a separate traction control "box" (controller) made by Race Logic that is setup to be plug-and-play by GTM, and includes a harness and full setup. It runs an around $2000+ from GTM (which is about 3x what the parts cost from Race Logic, but it is ready to go...).

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The Racelogic module and needed wheel speed sensors cost over $1600 add in the controller and PnP harness and I feel it is fairly priced.
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The Racelogic module and needed wheel speed sensors cost over $1600 add in the controller and PnP harness and I feel it is fairly priced.
the abs sensors from the Z don't work with the race logic?
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The Racelogic module and needed wheel speed sensors cost over $1600 add in the controller and PnP harness and I feel it is fairly priced.
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the abs sensors from the Z don't work with the race logic?
I was told we could use the existing ABS/speed sensors, and it was just the harness and/or wiring that would be needed (This did not come from GTM). Race Logic said the sensors are only needed for cars that do not have ABS/speed sensors; with a few exceptions. You can get the module and analog controller for under $1000. I can pick it up in Europe for around $800 (It lists for 595 British Pounds for the unit with traction and launch control).

The wiring is not complicated at all if you are willing to hack up the existing factory wiring. It could easily be done in less than a day with a factory service manual and the Race Logic instructions if you are technically competent.

I think it is great that GTM is offering this as plug-and-play, and if you think it is a good value, that is all that matters. I personally wouldn't pay $1500 for a harness, but there is definitely some appeal to doing so.
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I was told we could use the existing ABS/speed sensors, and it was just the harness and/or wiring that would be needed (This did not come from GTM). Race Logic said the sensors are only needed for cars that do not have ABS/speed sensors; with a few exceptions. You can get the module and analog controller for under $1000. I can pick it up in Europe for around $800 (It lists for 595 British Pounds for the unit with traction and launch control).

The wiring is not complicated at all if you are willing to hack up the existing factory wiring. It could easily be done in less than a day with a factory service manual and the Race Logic instructions if you are technically competent.

I think it is great that GTM is offering this as plug-and-play, and if you think it is a good value, that is all that matters. I personally wouldn't pay $1500 for a harness, but there is definitely some appeal to doing so.
Where did get the price of 1500 for the harness, does that mean that racelogic box only cost 700 dollars per your statement and calculations.

FYI you could not wire the car in a day, wiring the abs sensors alone witch you will have to remove the abs unit to do is a 6 hour job .

It takes less then 3 mints to install our system.

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[QUOTE=SAM@GTM;1146492]Where did get the price of 1500 for the harness, does that mean that racelogic box only cost 700 dollars per your statement and calculations.

FYI you could not wire the car in a day, wiring the abs sensors alone witch you will have to remove the abs unit to do is a 6 hour job .

It takes less then 3 mints to install our system.

Sam[/

If you can install in 3 minutes you are using a can Bus interface

Which is where the extra cost comes in


is it possible to use the digital controller from race logic as well as all of the settings can be programmed from the digital controller Instead of a laptop
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Where did get the price of 1500 for the harness, does that mean that racelogic box only cost 700 dollars per your statement and calculations.

FYI you could not wire the car in a day, wiring the abs sensors alone witch you will have to remove the abs unit to do is a 6 hour job .

It takes less then 3 mints to install our system.

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I stated I could get the Race Logic box (with launch control) and analog controller for around $800 in Europe (probably closer to $1000 here). I mentioned this in my post. $2300-$800=$1500. I understand that you do not sell the harness for $1500, and there are other things you do for the $2300 price....

I am not necessarily trying to give you are hard time about the price. As I stated, there is definite appeal in what you are offering; mainly the 3 minute install you pointed out, and not having to hack up the factory wiring. Both of which are a big deal to some people. I think it is great that you are offering this as a PnP option. People just need to understand what they are getting, and that is about $1000 worth of hardware and a PnP harness. There is a misconception that other things are required beyond the control module and analog controller, and I don't think that is the case (your customer, that I am assuming has this, stated that speed sensors were needed).

The RaceLogic traction control system is a well proven setup for just about any type of race car. I have seen it used on all types of cars, and I think it's cool that you are offering a simple solution for us. If someone really races (drag or track), I think what you are offering is a good solution if they do not want to hack up their car. My comments about were not specifically about the Z. I was originally looking into it for a different car altogether. Sorry, I won't comment any further on it in this thread just to keep thing from going to far OT....
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Thanks again Sam for everything. How long would you said the timeline is before kits start to get shipped out?
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:Happydance: Thanks again Sam for everything. How long would you said the timeline is before kits start to get shipped out?
So far we have been getting consistent 500 RWHP. We have one more dyno session tomorrow and if every thing goes well
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Are you gonna have results of the smaller pulleys? I'll be getting the 14psi pulley as we've talked about. I'm just excited & curious to see how much it makes. Plus when is one of your awesome videos coming out showing the stage.2 kit?
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