How much power will the stock internals hold?

Mythic · 10-19-2010, 09:38 AM

Hey guys, really considering supercharging the car within the next 7 months, how much power can SAFELY be ran on these engines without pushing any limits and hurting anything?

theDreamer · 10-19-2010, 09:40 AM

Really it is unknown, there have been a few G37 cars pushing above 500whp and around 10-12PSI. Anything below that will probably be safe, but you will have faster wear and tear on certain items. So the internals can handle it, but other items will break down faster.

A SC or a TT kit running 8PSI with the 3.7L has shown great results without punishing the engine in a bad way which gives the benefit of great power and some longevity to parts.

sinceday1 · 10-19-2010, 09:41 AM

Vq longevity - tt or supercharger?

wishihadnav · 10-19-2010, 11:22 AM

yeah it was best said by other member.. "longevity depends on your right foot.."..

Mythic · 10-19-2010, 11:22 AM

Awesome thanks for the input guys. I figure I'd be happy with anything over 400rwhp long as I could keep daily drivability easy and that should be enough to cut a low 12/high 11 with traction.

wishihadnav · 10-19-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mythic

Awesome thanks for the input guys. I figure I'd be happy with anything over 400rwhp long as I could keep daily drivability easy and that should be enough to cut a low 12/high 11 with traction.

Z1 can definately put it in for you in GA but go ahead and call Sam if you have ANY questions..he would be more than happy to explain it all.

christian370z · 10-19-2010, 12:38 PM

It seems like these engines take very well to boost as there are a number of 450rwhp+ VQ37 cars that have been running problem free for 50,000 miles or more. If you go the supercharger route, there is not really a current kit on the market that will push the envelope as far as the limits of the stock engine.

Sharif@Forged · 10-27-2010, 11:02 AM

400-500whp is the super safe level, with a good tune and setup. Engine longevity is related to how hard the car is driven. But for a daily driven car I would not expect any issues.

Mythic · 10-27-2010, 12:09 PM

Thats pretty awesome, id be more than happy with 400rwhp in this baby...

RCZ · 10-27-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged

400-500whp is the super safe level, with a good tune and setup. Engine longevity is related to how hard the car is driven. But for a daily driven car I would not expect any issues.

Is that dynojet or dynodynamics ? If its dynodynamics then I'm gonna run to the store and get a 10psi pulley for my car.

1slow370 · 10-28-2010, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rcz

is that dynojet or dynodynamics ? If its dynodynamics then i'm gonna run to the store and get a 10psi pulley for my car.

just do it

BalanBro · 10-28-2010, 05:30 AM

Along these lines, has there been a documented failure of a FI VQ37 yet? I know this engine does not yet have much history with boost, but a few people's misfortunes usually ends up being how we all learn the limits of an engine.

Gmendez · 10-28-2010, 10:56 AM

What about clutch life???

Greedy · 10-28-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmendez

What about clutch life???

I have a G37 TT that I run right about 500rwhp, 450rwtq and it smoked the stock clutch in about 3000 miles. I am installing an OS Giken twin plate and zspeed heavy duty CSC now and should be up and running by Saturday and should hold the power just fine.

JB-370z · 10-28-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy

I have a G37 TT that I run right about 500rwhp, 450rwtq and it smoked the stock clutch in about 3000 miles. I am installing an OS Giken twin plate and zspeed heavy duty CSC now and should be up and running by Saturday and should hold the power just fine.

Thats crazy cause my stock clutch is lasting well. You must be doing burn outs and super hard driving.

Edit: Let us know how you like the Zspeed CSC. Do you think it is going to hold up?

10-19-2010, 09:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mythic Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Live Oak Fl Posts: 223 Drives: 2010 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 14	How much power will the stock internals hold? Hey guys, really considering supercharging the car within the next 7 months, how much power can SAFELY be ran on these engines without pushing any limits and hurting anything? __________________ *2010 Nismo 370z* - Magnetic Black, again *2009 Nismo* 370Z** SOLD

10-19-2010, 09:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Really it is unknown, there have been a few G37 cars pushing above 500whp and around 10-12PSI. Anything below that will probably be safe, but you will have faster wear and tear on certain items. So the internals can handle it, but other items will break down faster. A SC or a TT kit running 8PSI with the 3.7L has shown great results without punishing the engine in a bad way which gives the benefit of great power and some longevity to parts. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

10-19-2010, 11:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mythic Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Live Oak Fl Posts: 223 Drives: 2010 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 14	Awesome thanks for the input guys. I figure I'd be happy with anything over 400rwhp long as I could keep daily drivability easy and that should be enough to cut a low 12/high 11 with traction. __________________ *2010 Nismo 370z* - Magnetic Black, again *2009 Nismo* 370Z** SOLD

10-19-2010, 12:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 431	It seems like these engines take very well to boost as there are a number of 450rwhp+ VQ37 cars that have been running problem free for 50,000 miles or more. If you go the supercharger route, there is not really a current kit on the market that will push the envelope as far as the limits of the stock engine. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

10-27-2010, 11:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sharif@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 840 Drives: 2009 GT-R, 2010 370Z Rep Power: 17	400-500whp is the super safe level, with a good tune and setup. Engine longevity is related to how hard the car is driven. But for a daily driven car I would not expect any issues. __________________ Sharif@Forgedperformance.com General Manager/Certified Tuner/NASA-PCA-BMWCAA Instructor JRZ RS1's Available NOW...PM me Cobb ProTuner, Uprev ECU Flash, FCON Vpro, Haltech, Motec Certified

10-19-2010, 09:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
sinceday1 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	Vq longevity - tt or supercharger?

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wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	yeah it was best said by other member.. "longevity depends on your right foot.."..

10-27-2010, 12:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mythic Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Live Oak Fl Posts: 223 Drives: 2010 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 14	Thats pretty awesome, id be more than happy with 400rwhp in this baby... __________________ *2010 Nismo 370z* - Magnetic Black, again *2009 Nismo* 370Z** SOLD

10-28-2010, 05:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
BalanBro Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 318 Drives: 40th Anniv. 370Z Rep Power: 1111	Along these lines, has there been a documented failure of a FI VQ37 yet? I know this engine does not yet have much history with boost, but a few people's misfortunes usually ends up being how we all learn the limits of an engine. __________________ 2012 Mercedes C63 AMG P31 Sedan, ROW, aFe, Eurocharged Dyno Tune. 438WHP/415WTQ 2010 SOLD: 40th Anniversary 370z

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Gmendez Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 114 Drives: '10 PW 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 15	What about clutch life???

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