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Originally Posted by Phimosis As a point of comparison, his output is 26hp lower than Stillen's advertised output. However, making the same comparison with te GTM kit, the best output

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Old 09-19-2010, 11:42 PM   #1816 (permalink)
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As a point of comparison, his output is 26hp lower than Stillen's advertised output. However, making the same comparison with te GTM kit, the best output is 62 hp lower than advertised. I say that based on Shumby having the highest output at 390 hp and GTM's claim of 452 whp. If you have other figures, please post the link to the dyno chart because I can't find any other dyno #'s from other forum users that have the GTM kit.
but don't forget Shumby is only pushing 6psi
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As a point of comparison, his output is 26hp lower than Stillen's advertised output. However, making the same comparison with te GTM kit, the best output is 62 hp lower than advertised. I say that based on Shumby having the highest output at 390 hp and GTM's claim of 452 whp. If you have other figures, please post the link to the dyno chart because I can't find any other dyno #'s from other forum users that have the GTM kit.
Good point, I haven't seen much in the way of results of the various staged GTM kits so I don't have a point of reference. Torque is still down 40-50ftlbs with the Stillen kit though, but I guess time will tell once more people from both kits get their cars up and running. At least I hope issues with both brands get sorted by the time I go FI!
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As a point of comparison, his output is 26hp lower than Stillen's advertised output. However, making the same comparison with te GTM kit, the best output is 62 hp lower than advertised. I say that based on Shumby having the highest output at 390 hp and GTM's claim of 452 whp. If you have other figures, please post the link to the dyno chart because I can't find any other dyno #'s from other forum users that have the GTM kit.



WTF? What do you people not understand. I am making 390HP and 350 TQ. only running the 6 PSI pully. THIS was MY choise. I did not want to put the full power of this kit on my AT. The kit does give what Sam advertized. After over 7000 miles on the kit i now am willing to go the 8 PSI pully route and see what happens to the tranny. I was not willing to take this risk on the 2300 mile in 24hr trip i have to make back to canada from cali on a newly installed SC. Plus i had to get back for work so I could not accept a delay or i would be fired for missing my flights. So again the kit does put the clamed numbers down. I choise to go lower for personel reasons. Sorry if I could not satisfy you guys be seeing if over 350 Ft/Lbs would blowup my tranny. Sorry but was not going to be that test pig.
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Good point, I haven't seen much in the way of results of the various staged GTM kits so I don't have a point of reference. Torque is still down 40-50ftlbs though, but I guess time will tell once more people from both kits get their cars up and running. At least I hope issues with both brands get sorted by the time I go FI!

how is GTM TQ down 40-50 ft/lbs? I am making 350 @ 6 psi this is 40-50 more then the stillen kit with 2 psi less boost. Seems people are just making up crap now.
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WTF? What do you people not understand. I am making 390HP and 350 TQ. only running the 6 PSI pully. THIS was MY choise. I did not want to put the full power of this kit on my AT. The kit does give what Sam advertized. After over 7000 miles on the kit i now am willing to go the 8 PSI pully route and see what happens to the tranny. I was not willing to take this risk on the 2300 mile in 24hr trip i have to make back to canada from cali on a newly installed SC. Plus i had to get back for work so I could not accept a delay or i would be fired for missing my flights. So again the kit does put the clamed numbers down. I choise to go lower for personel reasons. Sorry if I could not satisfy you guys be seeing if over 350 Ft/Lbs would blowup my tranny. Sorry but was not going to be that test pig.
for sure dude! I know exactly how you feel about that. When I picked up my car at Stillen the other day I didn't even gun it to see how it feels. I simply wanted to get home and test it out later. I too did not want to break anything while driving home for 7 hours.

Shumby, your car made very decent power. I like it a lot.
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Ya the power is nice 390 to the wheels is nice i can really notice it. I am sure the stillen boy reqaly notice the 410 ish they get too. Seems we always want more though don't it? lol ohwell that ias the price you pay once the FI bug hits.
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How's my Canadian Cousin ? My stage two is coming nicely acording to Sam. Hopefully it should be under christmas tree this year. 460 to 480 is the target.

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Ya the power is nice 390 to the wheels is nice i can really notice it. I am sure the stillen boy reqaly notice the 410 ish they get too. Seems we always want more though don't it? lol ohwell that ias the price you pay once the FI bug hits.
410 is good! Wished it can have 20 more lbs me tq
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How's my Canadian Cousin ? My stage two is coming nicely acording to Sam. Hopefully it should be under christmas tree this year. 460 to 480 is the target.

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nice. if I can trust the tranny on this i might go stage 2 as well. Will be nice when he gets the beta testing done on the LTJH too so i can put them back on
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how is GTM TQ down 40-50 ft/lbs? I am making 350 @ 6 psi this is 40-50 more then the stillen kit with 2 psi less boost. Seems people are just making up crap now.
I meant the Stillen kit is still down 40-50ft/lbs, not GTM. I was just basing that off the dyno sheets on the previous page, sorry for not being specific in my last post.
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^^^ got ya sounds good. I think it was i that was confused
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How's my Canadian Cousin ? My stage two is coming nicely acording to Sam. Hopefully it should be under christmas tree this year. 460 to 480 is the target.

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weiboy I don't understand something. GTM on their site state:

Stage zero up to 450 HP (carb approval in progress)
Stage one up to 500 HP
Stage two up to 550 HP

Therefore shouldn't your stage 2 fall somewhere between 500 and 550HP? Or were you talking about WHP? If you were, my bad.
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weiboy I don't understand something. GTM on their site state:

Stage zero up to 450 HP (carb approval in progress)
Stage one up to 500 HP
Stage two up to 550 HP

Therefore shouldn't your stage 2 fall somewhere between 500 and 550HP? Or were you talking about WHP? If you were, my bad.


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i think he ment z eliminator. lol
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THat's what I thought too lol.
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