Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

redondoaveb · 07-09-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

If Moncef blows it up that is his (shewantsthezeee) fault, not SOHO's.

Of course.

THE BULL · 07-09-2021, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

^^^^^^Think I am going to put his on my intercooler this time. Not going to anodize it.

Mighty car mods did an episode on this with regular paint and it worked. I could see if a lighter coating could be applied it would increase with heat exchange.

Mr.Squeeze · 07-09-2021, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

The real test is going to be when the car goes back on the dyno. 20 to 30 deg rise in IAT's will rob HP. I was at freaking 60 deg rise from Ambient. That was a holey chit moment.

Geez she was really cooking

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Spooler · 07-09-2021, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by THE BULL

Mighty car mods did an episode on this with regular paint and it worked. I could see if a lighter coating could be applied it would increase with heat exchange.

Gonna use what Calico recommends. That's what they do. No spray bomb for me. Plus, if they can do a PTFE coating to help clean it easier and prevent fouling and clogging of the fins I am all for it.

Spooler · 07-09-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

Geez she was really cooking

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Yup, we shall see what happens with the new intercooler.

Mr.Squeeze · 07-09-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Even Dynosty's shop car was in the 1xxx whp range with an FI kit. They didn't notice it either? Did they think they were out of turbo causing it to blow hot air. I just don't get it.

Hell in both those videos Dynosty and Carbon car both front bumpers were off the car probably skewed the numbers some what.

Spooler · 07-09-2021, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

Hell in both those videos Dynosty and Carbon car both front bumpers were off the car probably skewed the numbers some what.

True, Mine was on the car. They had to take it off the dyno to take a look at the intercooler. They didn't remember what size it was either. When my car was tuned
by Vince the front bumper was on the car.

Hotrodz · 07-09-2021, 03:40 PM

I am not necessarily in agreement with this. It may be biased opinion on his part. I did some research on it and the hub dyno should provide a more accurate assessment of wheel horse power. Dyno jets and alike numbers are dependent on how the wheels make contact with the rollers. The load can be influenced by how tightly the cars is tied down or how grippy the roller are. I believe Seb did a video on the latter. Also rotational mass can have influence all of the for mentioned are not variables on a hub dyno. I do believe that add adjustment factors in calculating numbers.

My experience on a hub dyno with Miata was done by a tuner I trust respect as Seb. The Miata made 150whp and a week later when I had it dyno on a dyno jet because cars running in NASA competition must be on a certified dyno jet to be within the rules. The Miata made 160 plus!

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Spooler · 07-09-2021, 03:46 PM

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I am not necessarily in agreement with this. It may be biased opinion on his part. I did some research on it and the hub dyno should provide a more accurate assessment of wheel horse power. Dyno jets and alike numbers are dependent on how the wheels make contact with the rollers. The load can be influenced by how tightly the cars is tied down or how grippy the roller are. I believe Seb did a video on the latter. Also rotational mass can have influence all of the for mentioned are not variables on a hub dyno. I do believe that add adjustment factors in calculating numbers.

My experience on a hub dyno with Miata was done by a tuner I trust respect as Seb. The Miata made 150whp and a week later when I had it dyno on a dyno jet because cars running in NASA competition must be on a certified dyno jet to be within the rules. The Miata made 160 plus!

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You are going to make me go find it aren't you. What better folks to ask advice from than the people that make both types of dynos.

Spooler · 07-09-2021, 03:57 PM

Here, class is in session.

Spooler · 07-09-2021, 04:14 PM

Make no mistake, when you get up in the higher HP level you must use a Hub dyno. It's a tuning aid. If the tires are slipping, you can't tune it properly.

Spooler · 07-09-2021, 04:17 PM

Maybe I should be like everybody else and take the front bumper off when on the dyno. LOL

redondoaveb · 07-09-2021, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Maybe I should be like everybody else and take the front bumper off when on the dyno. LOL

Won't Moncef do that for you

Spooler · 07-09-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

won't moncef do that for shewantsthezeee

fifu

Hotrodz · 07-09-2021, 06:54 PM

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Here, class is in session.

You found it!

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Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	I am not necessarily in agreement with this. It may be biased opinion on his part. I did some research on it and the hub dyno should provide a more accurate assessment of wheel horse power. Dyno jets and alike numbers are dependent on how the wheels make contact with the rollers. The load can be influenced by how tightly the cars is tied down or how grippy the roller are. I believe Seb did a video on the latter. Also rotational mass can have influence all of the for mentioned are not variables on a hub dyno. I do believe that add adjustment factors in calculating numbers. My experience on a hub dyno with Miata was done by a tuner I trust respect as Seb. The Miata made 150whp and a week later when I had it dyno on a dyno jet because cars running in NASA competition must be on a certified dyno jet to be within the rules. The Miata made 160 plus! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk FL 4Motion, JARblue and redondoaveb like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,536 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	Here, class is in session. JARblue, Hotrodz and redondoaveb like this. Last edited by Spooler; 07-09-2021 at 04:10 PM.

07-09-2021, 04:14 PM	#3986 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,536 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	Make no mistake, when you get up in the higher HP level you must use a Hub dyno. It's a tuning aid. If the tires are slipping, you can't tune it properly. FL 4Motion, JARblue, Hotrodz and 1 others like this.

07-09-2021, 04:17 PM	#3987 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,536 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	Maybe I should be like everybody else and take the front bumper off when on the dyno. LOL FL 4Motion, Hotrodz, redondoaveb and 1 others like this.

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