Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Elmo370z · 01-03-2020, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

I'm well aware. My comment was sarcastic. I had some jackass argue with me that because the guy still hadn't blown his engine, that was a safe power level for a stock block.

I just remove myself from the groups.

JLarson · 01-03-2020, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

I just remove myself from the groups.

If only they didn't occasionally sell things I want to buy! In those cases, their stupidity is often profitable.

Rusty · 01-03-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

What I fear most is their ability to breed.

Darwinism hasn't kicked in yet.

Elmo370z · 01-03-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

If only they didn't occasionally sell things I want to buy! In those cases, their stupidity is often profitable.

I just bought a set of spl fuca for 400 bucks

Spooler · 01-03-2020, 02:26 PM

Still researching on Darton Sleeves. Looked in the 350z forum. Yikes, those guys have had some issues. It appears that West Coast Darton is much better than East Coast Darton machine shop. That's not good. It is hit or miss on using Darton for the sleeve install. That's good to know.

phunk · 01-03-2020, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

Meanwhile, idiots on fb continue to talk about that guy with 800 hp on a stock block and how that proves it's safe.

To be fair, 800hp on a built block hasn’t proven any safer

solidus · 01-03-2020, 03:03 PM

Spooler I had read pretty extensively on this and looked back at what the 350z
guys were doing to overcome headlift. From what I got they pretty much had it figured out and people got lazy with it when ARP started with L19 and 625 studs. Their solution was tapping the block for 1/2 or 14mm studs. L19/625s carried over into VQ37 and until recently there was no real need because in the early days of VQ37 boost what we call average power now was extraordinary.
Even now I sit and think about my first 509whp tune . Right now if I set my Map 1 low boost on 93 Octane I'm damned near at 600rwhp and I feel like I'm in one of those Walmart Mobility chairs. The development is coming at us in leaps and bounds and the funny part is we're actually learning by breaking stuff at an accelerated rate. Talk to your people and see what they say about machining larger head studs, old skool is known from time to time to solve new school problems.

Spooler · 01-03-2020, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

To be fair, 800hp on a built block hasn’t proven any safer

That's the dang truth....

Mr.Squeeze · 01-03-2020, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Still researching on Darton Sleeves. Looked in the 350z forum. Yikes, those guys have had some issues. It appears that West Coast Darton is much better than East Coast Darton machine shop. That's not good. It is hit or miss on using Darton for the sleeve install. That's good to know.

I remember a bunch of those stories been a member over there since 2003. I use to own a 2003 and a 2005 DE. I only supercharged my stock block. A lot of horror stories of sleeves dropping blown head gaskets dyno queens that disappear.
Pretty much the same crap we are dealing with VQHR37

Spooler · 01-03-2020, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus

Talk to your people and see what they say about machining larger head studs, old skool is known from time to time to solve new school problems.

Already talking. The problem comes by doing so it may crack the block between the main studs and the head studs. If we had a billet block, Yeap larger head studs for sure. Watch the video with Mark from Mazworx.

solidus · 01-03-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

I remember a bunch of those stories been a member over there since 2003. I use to own a 2003 and a 2005 DE. I only supercharged my stock block. A lot of horror stories of sleeves dropping blown head gaskets dyno queens that disappear.
Pretty much the same crap we are dealing with VQHR37

Squeeze alot of my reading was from back then. Whatever happened with the 1/2 inch studs. From my reading it looked like it was solving the problem. That and I read something about doing it in combination with the HKS head gaskets specifically.

solidus · 01-03-2020, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Already talking. The problem comes by doing so it may crack the block between the main studs and the head studs. If we had a billet block, Yeap larger head studs for sure. Watch the video with Mark from Mazworx.

Lol!! I can drive over and talk to Mark. It might take 2 minutes for him to remember me.

Spooler · 01-03-2020, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus

Lol!! I can drive over and talk to Mark. It might take 2 minutes for him to remember me.

LMAO, we might need to take him in the back and work out the bill.

Spooler · 01-03-2020, 03:21 PM

Solidus, I still have some questions I am trying to find answers too. I am taking my time on what to do.

solidus · 01-03-2020, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Solidus, I still have some questions I am trying to find answers too. I am taking my time on what to do.

Well find out everything you can because you know I'm gonna blow up your phone if I need the answer.

01-03-2020, 02:26 PM	#2030 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,060 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684393	Still researching on Darton Sleeves. Looked in the 350z forum. Yikes, those guys have had some issues. It appears that West Coast Darton is much better than East Coast Darton machine shop. That's not good. It is hit or miss on using Darton for the sleeve install. That's good to know. Mr.Squeeze and Hotrodz like this.

01-03-2020, 03:03 PM	#2032 (permalink)
solidus Track Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 694 Drives: 15' Nismo Black 6MT Rep Power: 10081	Spooler I had read pretty extensively on this and looked back at what the 350z guys were doing to overcome headlift. From what I got they pretty much had it figured out and people got lazy with it when ARP started with L19 and 625 studs. Their solution was tapping the block for 1/2 or 14mm studs. L19/625s carried over into VQ37 and until recently there was no real need because in the early days of VQ37 boost what we call average power now was extraordinary. Even now I sit and think about my first 509whp tune . Right now if I set my Map 1 low boost on 93 Octane I'm damned near at 600rwhp and I feel like I'm in one of those Walmart Mobility chairs. The development is coming at us in leaps and bounds and the funny part is we're actually learning by breaking stuff at an accelerated rate. Talk to your people and see what they say about machining larger head studs, old skool is known from time to time to solve new school problems. Mr.Squeeze, Rusty, Hotrodz and 5 others like this.

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01-03-2020, 03:21 PM	#2039 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,060 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684393	Solidus, I still have some questions I am trying to find answers too. I am taking my time on what to do.