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Spooler 08-22-2020 07:40 PM

I am so ready to go for a rip in my car.

Spooler 08-22-2020 08:52 PM

The goal this time is to take several people for a ride so they can experience the craziness. No flucks will be given. Be for warned. Only one person
rode in the car last time it was up and going.

GeauxTigers1 08-23-2020 02:26 AM

awwwww yea! 10/24 it's on!! 1/2 mile races, can't freaking wait! Need the car done first week of Sept, high tail it to Seb for a final tune and then she'll be ready! Can't wait to see if we can break the 170s! (from a roll). https://www.facebook.com/events/315028779745626

jchammond 08-23-2020 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3955845)
awwwww yea! 10/24 it's on!! 1/2 mile races, can't freaking wait! Need the car done first week of Sept, high tail it to Seb for a final tune and then she'll be ready! Can't wait to see if we can break the 170s! (from a roll). https://www.facebook.com/events/315028779745626

From a Roll :ugh2:
Only from a standstill :happydance:

-ZS-Carpenter 08-23-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3955845)
awwwww yea! 10/24 it's on!! 1/2 mile races, can't freaking wait! Need the car done first week of Sept, high tail it to Seb for a final tune and then she'll be ready! Can't wait to see if we can break the 170s! (from a roll). https://www.facebook.com/events/315028779745626

It's a measured 1/2, roll racing at NFZ is dead, just hammer down when they say go :driving:

Mr.Squeeze 08-23-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3955845)
awwwww yea! 10/24 it's on!! 1/2 mile races, can't freaking wait! Need the car done first week of Sept, high tail it to Seb for a final tune and then she'll be ready! Can't wait to see if we can break the 170s! (from a roll). https://www.facebook.com/events/315028779745626

That will be fun as hell.

Spooler 08-23-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3955845)
awwwww yea! 10/24 it's on!! 1/2 mile races, can't freaking wait! Need the car done first week of Sept, high tail it to Seb for a final tune and then she'll be ready! Can't wait to see if we can break the 170s! (from a roll). https://www.facebook.com/events/315028779745626

Our 1/2 mile event sucked because of the old airstrip. It was old dusty cracked up concrete. You guys have asphalt last I looked. I spun 1,2,3,4 and didn't traction until 5th.

GeauxTigers1 08-23-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3955851)
It's a measured 1/2, roll racing at NFZ is dead, just hammer down when they say go :driving:

What really?? I didn’t know they shut down the roll racing aspect! Interesting. Still going to be fun, just probably won’t break at 170 mark. Haha

GeauxTigers1 08-23-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3955846)
From a Roll :ugh2:
Only from a standstill :happydance:

Why not both! :P I like both personally but some drivers prefer 40 roll, some prefer launch. Going to have the GoPros ready!

GeauxTigers1 08-23-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3955885)
Our 1/2 mile event sucked because of the old airstrip. It was old dusty cracked up concrete. You guys have asphalt last I looked. I spun 1,2,3,4 and didn't traction until 5th.

Ah man, that wouldn’t be much fun. I do have to take off in 3rd from a 40 roll just Bc of how bad I’d spin in second. But from a launch it was just 1st and 2nd mainly for the traction issues. Hoping with this new tune that seb did with the boost by gear, that’ll help a lot! Especially when she’s turned up to 23lbs :happydance:

Elmo370z 08-23-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3955908)
Ah man, that wouldn’t be much fun. I do have to take off in 3rd from a 40 roll just Bc of how bad I’d spin in second. But from a launch it was just 1st and 2nd mainly for the traction issues. Hoping with this new tune that seb did with the boost by gear, that’ll help a lot! Especially when she’s turned up to 23lbs :happydance:

Expensive fix you traction is a standalone. I’m hoping a tuner implement a race grade TC with Ecu tek.

-ZS-Carpenter 08-23-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3955906)
What really?? I didn’t know they shut down the roll racing aspect! Interesting. Still going to be fun, just probably won’t break at 170 mark. Haha

You can still roll if you want but they had to take the pacing distance out of the track last year.

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GeauxTigers1 08-24-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3955913)
Expensive fix you traction is a standalone. I’m hoping a tuner implement a race grade TC with Ecu tek.

I'm not sure what you mean on expensive fix you traction? Sebastian at specialty Z is my tuner, he's fantastic at what he does ;)

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3955918)
You can still roll if you want but they had to take the pacing distance out of the track last year.

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Thanks for the heads up! I guess it'll make them true Half mile runs now though so should be interesting.

GeauxTigers1 08-24-2020 01:09 PM

Decided on the APR GTC300 wing with gurney flap! Super excited, going to order here shortly. But to compliment that downforce in the rear, anyone know if the APR front splitter can be chassis mounted? Have seen too many TT Z's have those things fly off once they get over 130 bc it's just attached to the bumper. lol Trying to avoid that.

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...370z-nismo-15/

GeauxTigers1 08-24-2020 01:09 PM

Decided on the APR GTC300 wing with gurney flap! Super excited, going to order here shortly. But to compliment that downforce in the rear, anyone know if the APR front splitter can be chassis mounted? Have seen too many TT Z's have those things fly off once they get over 130 bc it's just attached to the bumper. lol Trying to avoid that.

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...370z-nismo-15/

-ZS-Carpenter 08-24-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3956033)

Thanks for the heads up! I guess it'll make them true Half mile runs now though so should be interesting.

NP. If you've been to NFZ before it's still the same deal. Drivers still set up their own races. Just no pacing distance and no more glory runs from the back of the runway. There is just over 6,000' of runway at NFZ midwest so it was close to an extra 1/8th if you backed all the way up to the grass with plenty of shutdown. But the insurance man shut all that down after 2018.

Rusty 08-24-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3956036)
Decided on the APR GTC300 wing with gurney flap! Super excited, going to order here shortly. But to compliment that downforce in the rear, anyone know if the APR front splitter can be chassis mounted? Have seen too many TT Z's have those things fly off once they get over 130 bc it's just attached to the bumper. lol Trying to avoid that.

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...370z-nismo-15/

With the APR splitter. You have to make your own frame mounts.

Spooler 08-24-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3956033)
I'm not sure what you mean on expensive fix you traction? Sebastian at specialty Z is my tuner, he's fantastic at what he does ;)



Elmo was talking about a true Motorsport traction control. The only way to get it is with a MOTEC Standalone M150 package. Ecutek is limited to the factory ECU and logic. I personally use nothing. I turn it all off and drive with my right foot. Boost by gear will help.

I am crying the blues, my Motec money went to my new engine.

NorthStyle 08-24-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3956036)
Decided on the APR GTC300 wing with gurney flap! Super excited, going to order here shortly. But to compliment that downforce in the rear, anyone know if the APR front splitter can be chassis mounted? Have seen too many TT Z's have those things fly off once they get over 130 bc it's just attached to the bumper. lol Trying to avoid that.

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...370z-nismo-15/

I know Battle Aero make a "supposedly" decent chassis-mounted splitter. I can't say I'd choose their spoilers over APR/Voltex/INGS+1 but it may be a viable option for what you're looking for.

https://www.battleaero.com/collectio...13934491107371

Spooler 08-24-2020 05:31 PM

Well, talked with Vince. It will be the end of this week or the first of next week. It's not a tune that can be rushed through as we all know. It will take some time on the dyno.

Spooler 08-24-2020 05:55 PM

I have no idea what this new motor setup is going to do. Guess we will all find out together. Since I decompressed from 11:1 to 10:1, that is what has me baffled on the outcome. That and the ported heads with larger valves and ported lower intake manifold. Those are the big changes.

Elmo370z 08-24-2020 08:08 PM

940whp

Spooler 08-24-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3956073)
940whp

I don't know if I can make that on 24psi of boost. We shall find out. If I get into the 9xx's, I will stop at 24psi of boost. My wastegates springs are 12psi, 24psi-25psi is about the limit of my external gates without a spring change.

-ZS-Carpenter 08-24-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3956073)
940whp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3956077)
I don't know if I can make that on 24psi of boost. We shall find out. If I get into the 9xx's, I will stop at 24psi of boost. My wastegates springs are 12psi, 24psi-25psi is about the limit of my external gates without a spring change.

Are you still running on pump e85? So something around 78% ethanol?

Spooler 08-24-2020 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3956080)
Are you still running on pump e85? So something around 78% ethanol?

Not this time. I will be on Ignite Red. It is what folks call Ignite E90.

Hotrodz 08-24-2020 10:51 PM

E-90=114 octane!

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jchammond 08-25-2020 07:14 AM

I got my eyes peeled back, watching you guy’s :icon08:
Ordering miscellaneous stuff for the build, that probably will go on for quite some time :rofl2:

Spooler 08-25-2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3956085)
E-90=114 octane!

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Yeap, Ethanol One is 117 octane.

Whjaxn17 08-25-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3956036)
Decided on the APR GTC300 wing with gurney flap! Super excited, going to order here shortly. But to compliment that downforce in the rear, anyone know if the APR front splitter can be chassis mounted? Have seen too many TT Z's have those things fly off once they get over 130 bc it's just attached to the bumper. lol Trying to avoid that.

https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/s...370z-nismo-15/

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3956051)
With the APR splitter. You have to make your own frame mounts.

:iagree:

If you have the Fast Intentions crash bar, the rods come up way short. Jarred/AkumaZ made his own vertical mounts that I believe are sandwiched under the crash bar.

Also, 9 Lives Racing just released a splitter for the 370Z. You may want to check it out, too.

Hotrodz 08-25-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3956115)
Yeap, Ethanol One is 117 octane.

The real bonus factor is that the tuner can add as much timing as the want with out fear detention.

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Spooler 08-25-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3956139)
The real bonus factor is that the tuner can add as much timing as the want with out fear detention.

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Mark and I have had a long conversation about this. E85 will detonate and you won't pick it up on your knock sensor. His recommendation is to only run E85 out of the barrel on high boost for consistency. He has seen many blown up engines that when he takes it apart, he finds detonation traces and then finds out they were on pump E85. Pump E85 is just not consistent enough to risk your engine over. I will stay at 17psi of boost on pump E85.

redondoaveb 08-25-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3956141)
Mark and I have had a long conversation about this. E85 will detonate and you won't pick it up on your knock sensor. His recommendation is to only run E85 out of the barrel on high boost for consistency. He has seen many blown up engines that when he takes it apart, he finds detonation traces and then finds out they were on pump E85. Pump E85 is just not consistent enough to risk your engine over. I will stay at 17psi of boost on pump E85.

Won't your ethanol gauge show the consistency? My gauge shows consistent e83 from the station I go to.

Rusty 08-25-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3956135)
:iagree:

If you have the Fast Intentions crash bar, the rods come up way short. Jarred/AkumaZ made his own vertical mounts that I believe are sandwiched under the crash bar.

Also, 9 Lives Racing just released a splitter for the 370Z. You may want to check it out, too.

9 Lives Racing. It's for a Nismo V2 bumper. Just a splitter. No mounts or hardware. Have to make your own.

Spooler 08-25-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3956151)
Won't your ethanol gauge show the consistency? My gauge shows consistent e83 from the station I go to.

It is the other stuff in there that you can't read that is the problem.

Hotrodz 08-25-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3956141)
Mark and I have had a long conversation about this. E85 will detonate and you won't pick it up on your knock sensor. His recommendation is to only run E85 out of the barrel on high boost for consistency. He has seen many blown up engines that when he takes it apart, he finds detonation traces and then finds out they were on pump E85. Pump E85 is just not consistent enough to risk your engine over. I will stay at 17psi of boost on pump E85.

Agreed! My comment was strictly regarding Ignite 114 or similar race ethanol. Ignite and others have other additives which also help.

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Hotrodz 08-25-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3956151)
Won't your ethanol gauge show the consistency? My gauge shows consistent e83 from the station I go to.

It is not so much about the percentage of ethanol at the pump to a certain extent. It all about the impurities in the percentage of fuel that is not ethanol. I had to have a fuel pump replaced because there was so much junk in the pump ethanol I was running and it was over 80% ethanol. I started running nothing but e-90 after that. There have been improvements made to fuel pumps made for ethanol since then.

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Elmo370z 08-25-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3956163)
It is not so much about the percentage of ethanol at the pump to a certain extent. It all about the impurities in the percentage of fuel that is not ethanol. I had to have a fuel pump replaced because there was so much junk in the pump ethanol I was running and it was over 80% ethanol. I started running nothing but e-90 after that. There have been improvements made to fuel pumps made for ethanol since then.

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Yup. That’s exactly what Jay from real street stated.

Spooler 08-25-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3956163)
It is not so much about the percentage of ethanol at the pump to a certain extent. It all about the impurities in the percentage of fuel that is not ethanol. I had to have a fuel pump replaced because there was so much junk in the pump ethanol I was running and it was over 80% ethanol. I started running nothing but e-90 after that. There have been improvements made to fuel pumps made for ethanol since then.

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That is the reason why Injector Dynamic's came out with their fuel filter for E85 and Bosch injectors. ID-750 I think it is. That is what is on my car. I did have my injectors cleaned and tested before being put on the new motor because the car had pump E85 in the tank since December of last year. Paying that bill was a no brainer.

Spooler 08-25-2020 02:27 PM

Here is the filter setup.

ID F750 Fuel Filter - Injector Dynamics

Elmo370z 08-25-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3956169)
That is the reason why Injector Dynamic's came out with their fuel filter for E85 and Bosch injectors. ID-750 I think it is. That is what is on my car. I did have my injectors cleaned and tested before being put on the new motor because the car had pump E85 in the tank since December of last year. Paying that bill was a no brainer.

Remeber, every two- three fill ups with E run a tank of gasoline through the motor.


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