Before Installing Stillen Supercharger

Chuck33079 · 06-02-2017, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Felors

Is upgrading the flex plate (7AT) necessary when supercharging?

It's not a bad idea, but it's going to add significantly to your labor costs.

Felors · 06-02-2017, 09:37 AM

Yea that's what i figured and the flex plate itself is pretty expensive.

Any thoughts on Exedy Technics Automatic Transmission Sports Clutch Set - for 7AT.

Trying to beef up my transmission.

Chuck33079 · 06-02-2017, 09:48 AM

If you want to beef up the 7AT, talk to Fast Intentions or Level 10. Although, it's probably not as necessary with a supercharger as it would be with a turbo. If I had an auto and was doing your build, I'd set aside the cash for a built transmission and wait until the stock one pops.

Honestly, since you're starting with a base Z, I'd consider brakes and LSD to be more pressing needs than the tranny.

TopgunZ · 06-02-2017, 10:17 AM

The key to AT life is mostly in the tune. I know people that have had their AT's blow on them on the dyno because the tuner has no idea what he is doing with line pressure and such. The guy local to me lost his tranny at 320wtq because the tuner was ignorant.

Sebs (sebastian from Specialty Z) says he can reliably tune way past 450wtq. and he does all day long. The tune will make or break your system.

GET A GOOD TUNER!.....Just use sebs.

turtle64b · 06-03-2017, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If you want to beef up the 7AT, talk to Fast Intentions or Level 10. Although, it's probably not as necessary with a supercharger as it would be with a turbo. If I had an auto and was doing your build, I'd set aside the cash for a built transmission and wait until the stock one pops.

Honestly, since you're starting with a base Z, I'd consider brakes and LSD to be more pressing needs than the tranny.

This is exactly what I am doing. I didn't see anything about transmission stuff on the FI website other than the flexplate. I know that Level Ten advertises a tranny built to 700+ hp for close to 5k. Hopefully mine doesn't give too soon...

Felors · 06-03-2017, 11:27 AM

What is the purpose of the TBatt idler pulley? Someone was recommending it too.

Optimiser · 06-03-2017, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Felors

What is the purpose of the TBatt idler pulley? Someone was recommending it too.

To reduce or eliminate serp belt slip. I have one and it's done the trick.

Felors · 06-04-2017, 12:11 PM

I think i remember reading that the slippage occurs when you upgrade to a 9lb pulley, right? The stock one is 8lb.

turtle64b · 06-05-2017, 04:08 AM

Slippage will still occur with the stock 8lb pulley. "Coincidentally" it seems to happen around the time the SC peaks out at 8psi. With the TBatt extra idler that eliminates the slip, I believe folks are seeing near, if not above, 9lbs on the stock pulley. Once I've resolved my injector issue, I'll let you know.

G3RSTY7 · 09-27-2017, 10:38 AM

Has anybody here built their own kit? I was in the process of rebuilding a V3, going to get the air-air, called stillen but they won't let me order the SC mounting bracket or manifold. Seeing if there are any recommendations locally for someone to make a mounting bracket, but what about the manifold as well?

wideglideleon · 09-27-2017, 12:42 PM

I tried to install the extra pulley with the 8lb pulley and the green belt was too short wouldn't fit. Any one else have this issue?

turtle64b · 09-27-2017, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wideglideleon

I tried to install the extra pulley with the 8lb pulley and the green belt was too short wouldn't fit. Any one else have this issue?

Make sure that you are not over the side on any of the pulleys and that you have it routed the correct way. I have the same pulley setup and the green belt that TBatt sent with it fit like a glove. What is the belt #?

wideglideleon · 09-27-2017, 08:27 PM

Gates Belt # K081088HD

06-02-2017, 09:48 AM	#33 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	If you want to beef up the 7AT, talk to Fast Intentions or Level 10. Although, it's probably not as necessary with a supercharger as it would be with a turbo. If I had an auto and was doing your build, I'd set aside the cash for a built transmission and wait until the stock one pops. Honestly, since you're starting with a base Z, I'd consider brakes and LSD to be more pressing needs than the tranny. TBatt and turtle64b like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

06-02-2017, 10:17 AM	#34 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6833	The key to AT life is mostly in the tune. I know people that have had their AT's blow on them on the dyno because the tuner has no idea what he is doing with line pressure and such. The guy local to me lost his tranny at 320wtq because the tuner was ignorant. Sebs (sebastian from Specialty Z) says he can reliably tune way past 450wtq. and he does all day long. The tune will make or break your system. GET A GOOD TUNER!.....Just use sebs. EliteXpress and turtle64b like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

06-05-2017, 04:08 AM	#39 (permalink)
turtle64b Track Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Granbury, TX Posts: 550 Drives: '11 SC Blue 7AT Rep Power: 3365	Slippage will still occur with the stock 8lb pulley. "Coincidentally" it seems to happen around the time the SC peaks out at 8psi. With the TBatt extra idler that eliminates the slip, I believe folks are seeing near, if not above, 9lbs on the stock pulley. Once I've resolved my injector issue, I'll let you know. wideglideleon likes this.

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Felors Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Decatur, Tx Posts: 23 Drives: 16 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 8	Yea that's what i figured and the flex plate itself is pretty expensive. Any thoughts on Exedy Technics Automatic Transmission Sports Clutch Set - for 7AT. Trying to beef up my transmission.

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Felors Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Decatur, Tx Posts: 23 Drives: 16 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 8	What is the purpose of the TBatt idler pulley? Someone was recommending it too.

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Felors Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Decatur, Tx Posts: 23 Drives: 16 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 8	I think i remember reading that the slippage occurs when you upgrade to a 9lb pulley, right? The stock one is 8lb.

09-27-2017, 10:38 AM	#40 (permalink)
G3RSTY7 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 103 Drives: Infiniti G37s 6MT Rep Power: 7	Has anybody here built their own kit? I was in the process of rebuilding a V3, going to get the air-air, called stillen but they won't let me order the SC mounting bracket or manifold. Seeing if there are any recommendations locally for someone to make a mounting bracket, but what about the manifold as well?

09-27-2017, 12:42 PM	#41 (permalink)
wideglideleon Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 569 Drives: SC 09 370Z LG 7AT Rep Power: 64085	I tried to install the extra pulley with the 8lb pulley and the green belt was too short wouldn't fit. Any one else have this issue?

09-27-2017, 08:27 PM	#43 (permalink)
wideglideleon Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 569 Drives: SC 09 370Z LG 7AT Rep Power: 64085	Gates Belt # K081088HD