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Optimiser 01-01-2017 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by woo (Post 3596813)
your crash bar will not fit. It may go on with some 2 inch spacers. i havent had time to take bumper back off and play with it.. Bumper went back on perfectly. Some had mention the fast int tow bar. Im just not spending $450 dollars on it. That will be my next project when i install engine oil cooler.
My shop trimmed the engine side of the aluminium crash bar a few mm's in so it's recessed a bit, then seam welded along the length of the trimmed section to get crash bars strength back. This gives a (better) gap between the A to A intercooler and the crash bar to also give some clearance in a frontal accident :happydance:

nic370 01-02-2017 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3596969)
My shop trimmed the engine side of the aluminium crash bar a few mm's in so it's recessed a bit, then seam welded along the length of the trimmed section to get crash bars strength back. This gives a (better) gap between the A to A intercooler and the crash bar to also give some clearance in a frontal accident :happydance:
Sounds great
Do you have any pictures?

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woo 01-02-2017 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3596969)
My shop trimmed the engine side of the aluminium crash bar a few mm's in so it's recessed a bit, then seam welded along the length of the trimmed section to get crash bars strength back. This gives a (better) gap between the A to A intercooler and the crash bar to also give some clearance in a frontal accident :happydance:
i dont know what they changed on the 16 but i need a 2 inch spacer just to clear the intercooler. ima get the bumper off in the next week or two and ill see. Thanks for the info

Kamillio 01-02-2017 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by woo (Post 3597272)
i dont know what they changed on the 16 but i need a 2 inch spacer just to clear the intercooler. ima get the bumper off in the next week or two and ill see. Thanks for the info


My 14 Nismo was the same. I went with the FI one.


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BOLIO 671 01-03-2017 06:26 AM
Does anyone with the kit experience slight vibrations on initial start up?

TopgunZ 01-03-2017 08:00 AM
The only vibration that i have heard of was from someone that had the volute touching the frame.

However, I had noticed that the tbolt clamp on the throttle body was rubbing on my hood and I was suprised i didnt hear any vibration from it. That is why I recommend using the worm drive clamps there since it is a tight fit. Check your hood in that area for any contact.

woo 01-03-2017 01:28 PM
i had one but it was from the buloga exhaust...it went away when i got this sweet *** deal on a slightly used fast intentions from TOPGUNZ!!!!!!:happydance:

nic370 01-03-2017 02:09 PM
Mine is all on now
Took a little longer as I have done a full install from stock as opposed to just swapping out water stuff

Spoken to my tunner late tonight he's send me a tune tomorrow so should get her running then :)
Can't wait now

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BOLIO 671 01-03-2017 08:51 PM
Guys quick question... car threw a P0507 "Idle Air Control RPM Higher than expected." I am using the Turbosmart 25mm BOV and have it at the softest setting. Did some reading and got different points on adjustments. Should the BPV be slightly open at idle? If it isn't do I tighten it?

Optimiser 01-03-2017 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nic370 (Post 3597007)
Sounds great
Do you have any pictures?

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Sorry no pics of it.
Also of interest is I have a 2012 model Z with a 2013+ front bumper (with the LED's) that I was able to get and have fitted after an accident I had where, through no fault of my own, I t-boned a Nissan Tida. :shakes head:

BOLIO 671 01-03-2017 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3597415)
The only vibration that i have heard of was from someone that had the volute touching the frame.

However, I had noticed that the tbolt clamp on the throttle body was rubbing on my hood and I was suprised i didnt hear any vibration from it. That is why I recommend using the worm drive clamps there since it is a tight fit. Check your hood in that area for any contact.
Being that the charger is on the bracket, wouldn't that keep it off the frame? During the install I know that we double checked to ensure that the volute was not touching the frame and tried to follow the spacing as close to the pics you provided on the install manual. The vibration only happens for me on initial start up. I will double check everything again just to make sure as soon as I figure out this issue with my idle.

TopgunZ 01-04-2017 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3597732)
Guys quick question... car threw a P0507 "Idle Air Control RPM Higher than expected." I am using the Turbosmart 25mm BOV and have it at the softest setting. Did some reading and got different points on adjustments. Should the BPV be slightly open at idle? If it isn't do I tighten it?
Your BPV needs to be open at idle. If anything you should loosen it. When i had the turbosmart on i had bought the lightest (blue) spring and even trimmed off a ring and a half to get the perfect amount of tension on the piston head of the valve. But, i did have the SI trim and 9psi pulley so it was pushing more air at idle. You should be able to trim down any of the springs to get the tension right.

TBatt 01-04-2017 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3597787)
Being that the charger is on the bracket, wouldn't that keep it off the frame? During the install I know that we double checked to ensure that the volute was not touching the frame and tried to follow the spacing as close to the pics you provided on the install manual. The vibration only happens for me on initial start up. I will double check everything again just to make sure as soon as I figure out this issue with my idle.
Check the clearance from the cross brace to the throttle bodies. Mine was almost touching and was causing knocks and rattles. I used 1/2 inch spacers to slightly raise the cross brace and that fixed the problem.

dboi941 01-04-2017 01:30 PM
TopgunZ A+++ on the packing, I have ordered from every place you can think of and never seen packaging so good lol. Sorry just thought it was worth noting!

TopgunZ 01-04-2017 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dboi941 (Post 3598050)
TopgunZ A+++ on the packing, I have ordered from every place you can think of and never seen packaging so good lol. Sorry just thought it was worth noting!
Thanks! Now that I have sold over 20 kits I have it down to a science. Lol.

BOLIO 671 01-04-2017 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3597977)
Your BPV needs to be open at idle. If anything you should loosen it. When i had the turbosmart on i had bought the lightest (blue) spring and even trimmed off a ring and a half to get the perfect amount of tension on the piston head of the valve. But, i did have the SI trim and 9psi pulley so it was pushing more air at idle. You should be able to trim down any of the springs to get the tension right.
OK....have it at the softest setting and it's still closed. How far open does it need to be? Do u think this is the reason I am.getting high Idle? We ran a smoker and couldn't find any vacuum leaks. Tried doing a Idle Learning via EcuTek but the tests failed and made my idle worse. Now idling at 1400-1500 RPM.

Weird thing is this just started happening. When I first cranked the car my idle was where it should be.....high 700s low 800s (RPM). Thinking it may be the Throttle Chambers but I'm not getting any codes for that.

jwick 01-04-2017 05:48 PM
Topgunz - air to air upgrade
 
Try the idle relearn procedure, not the one in Ecutek. Nissan has one, you can google to find it. I have to do it every couple of times I reflag the car.

JWillis72 01-04-2017 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3598118)
OK....have it at the softest setting and it's still closed. How far open does it need to be? Do u think this is the reason I am.getting high Idle? We ran a smoker and couldn't find any vacuum leaks. Tried doing a Idle Learning via EcuTek but the tests failed and made my idle worse. Now idling at 1400-1500 RPM.



Weird thing is this just started happening. When I first cranked the car my idle was where it should be.....high 700s low 800s (RPM). Thinking it may be the Throttle Chambers but I'm not getting any codes for that.


You need a softer spring or cut that one down, it should be wide open at idle.


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woo 01-04-2017 05:53 PM
you havent seen nothing
 
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Originally Posted by dboi941 (Post 3598050)
TopgunZ A+++ on the packing, I have ordered from every place you can think of and never seen packaging so good lol. Sorry just thought it was worth noting!
The exhaust he sent me came with a set of high quality blankets and it had so much tape i went through a box of razor blades just to get in!!!!!! The man knows how to ship a package!!!!!

BOLIO 671 01-04-2017 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3598044)
Check the clearance from the cross brace to the throttle bodies. Mine was almost touching and was causing knocks and rattles. I used 1/2 inch spacers to slightly raise the cross brace and that fixed the problem.
Found the problem...one of the T-Blolt clamps was hitting the Cross brace causing the vibration. It's not a big thing for me as its only during the initial start up. Now if I can just get this idle thing figured out.

BOLIO 671 01-04-2017 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3598123)
Try the idle relearn procedure, not the one in Ecutek. Nissan has one, you can google to find it. I have to do it every couple of times I reflag the car.
This process doesn't work as EcuTek overrides it now. One of my close friends that works on the car is a Master Tech with Nissan and tried it.

BOLIO 671 01-04-2017 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598124)
You need a softer spring or cut that one down, it should be wide open at idle.


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Thanks for clarification....I'm figuring by you and Topz response this has to something to do with my idle. I will try this out...hopefully it solves the issue.

JWillis72 01-04-2017 07:18 PM
If you are less than 11 lbs of boost you could try the PBV from the Stillen kit, I'm running it on my car and it stays open at idle without any messing with it.


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TopgunZ 01-04-2017 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598167)
If you are less than 11 lbs of boost you could try the PBV from the Stillen kit, I'm running it on my car and it stays open at idle without any messing with it.


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This

JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:04 PM
Also if you are using Ecutek you can do the idle relearn and ecu reset in it with the push of one button, way easier than the Nissan way.


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Jayhovah 01-04-2017 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598200)
Also if you are using Ecutek you can do the idle relearn and ecu reset in it with the push of one button, way easier than the Nissan way.


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How do you do that?

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JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:19 PM
It's in the ECM tool. After you detect the vehicle it's one of the options near the bottom.


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Jayhovah 01-04-2017 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598217)
It's in the ECM tool. After you detect the vehicle it's one of the options near the bottom.


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Is that something you need a remote tunning cable for? I don't have one...

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JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:20 PM
Seb showed me and said you should reset the the ECU after every flash before you do a log, he said it cleans up the logs.


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JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3598218)
Is that something you need a remote tunning cable for? I don't have one...

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Yes, you have to have a cable to do anything in Ecutek.


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Jayhovah 01-04-2017 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598220)
Yes, you have to have a cable to do anything in Ecutek.


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Bummer. I was hoping there would be a sequence of steering wheel buttons I could use like switching maps.... I have been looking into a remote tunning cable though.

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JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:25 PM
You can do the resets without a cable but it's a pain in the butt.


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Jayhovah 01-04-2017 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598222)
You can do the resets without a cable but it's a pain in the butt.


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Good to know! I wonder if Ecutek has all the tricks documented somewhere accessible.

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JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:27 PM
I have a bunch saved in emails, message me your email and I will send them to you tomorrow.


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Jayhovah 01-04-2017 08:34 PM
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I have a bunch saved in emails, message me your email and I will send them to you tomorrow.


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Thanks, that would be awesome! You got a PM.

Jayhovah 01-04-2017 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598225)
I have a bunch saved in emails, message me your email and I will send them to you tomorrow.


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Spoke too soon!

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JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:47 PM
Lol, I will clear it out tomorrow if I'm not in prison. My daughter being goofy was taking a picture of me pouring a drink and I grabbed her phone and she freaked. When I asked wtf was that about I was told my 15 year old has a boyfriend so I am on the edge of crazy as hell right now!!!! Pray for me and them!!!!


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BOLIO 671 01-04-2017 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3598200)
Also if you are using Ecutek you can do the idle relearn and ecu reset in it with the push of one button, way easier than the Nissan way.


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Tried that and the tests kept coming back with a fail and couldn't be completed. I'm hoping it's just the BPV...I will try the Stillen one and see...if so then may need to cut the spring on the turbosmart one.

JWillis72 01-04-2017 08:50 PM
If it's not open at idle you have to fix that before you can do anything.


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TopgunZ 01-04-2017 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by woo (Post 3598125)
The exhaust he sent me came with a set of high quality blankets and it had so much tape i went through a box of razor blades just to get in!!!!!! The man knows how to ship a package!!!!!
Glad I could give your dogs new bedding for Xmas. :hello:


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