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Kamillio 11-28-2016 09:03 PM

I'm not saying it's A/As fault. Just thought someone had maybe similar problem. Like I had with the overflow radiator reservoir clearance to the belt.

I did not try it without the extra pulley, it only happened once so far. If happens again I'll do something about it. That might be already next year after the winter though :( not many drivable days left here


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JWillis72 11-28-2016 09:09 PM

Sorry, I wasn't saying you blamed the a2a. I just feel I have pushed the Stillen kit hard so this seems strange to me. I hope you figure it out!


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Kamillio 11-28-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3583275)
How much psi under 6500 did you gain? (worth it?)

Anyone else with this mod notice this?



Was this question to me or JWillis72? I only had the car fully running for a few days now (fuel issues before because stillen sent me a faulty fuel pump and would not own up to it!). I don't have a boost gauge and not sure how the car ran without A2A as I never installed otherwise. I do see exactly 8lbs of boost from logging with ambient of 45-50F.

I did notice a clearance issue with the silicone tube that comes out of the SC snail and the driver's side wheel well plastic piece.


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TopgunZ 11-28-2016 09:22 PM

Yeah, with the 8 psi pulley and stock sc and js pulley it really doesn't sound like you could be slipping the belt unless your tensioner is going out on you. That squeel could have been something else also since you don't have a boost gauge to watch it drop.

bewhitey 11-30-2016 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=I did notice a clearance issue with the silicone tube that comes out of the SC snail and the driver's side wheel well plastic piece.[/QUOTE]

I had the same problem with the silicone 45 degree tube coming off the supercharger hitting the wheel well. I cut a piece out of the wheel well and jb welded it back in 1/2" closer to the wheel. This picture is of it halfway through the process, it did not end up this ugly....well maybe it was still ugly in the end haha. I don't have a pic of the finished version though

My 45 degree silicone tube coming off the supercharger has a slight kink in it so I bought a 90 degree one... but it seemed like it was going to be too short (not to mention I bought the wrong 90 degree tube because I did not realize it was a reducer) so I just stuck with the kinky hose

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bewhitey 11-30-2016 06:54 PM

Any of you guys recommend uprev GT MAFs with this A2A kit and E85? I have stock supercharger impeller and 8psi pulley

My car is at the tune shop right now... they talked me into going E85 so now I am waiting on all the fun parts to arrive that goes with that. 1000cc ID injectors came in today, CJ Motorsports S1.SE fuel system coming sometime... the fuel rails are on backorder! I was talking with Charles at CJ Motorsports, not sure if he is the owner or just works there, but that guy is awesome! He would immediately respond to all of my emails and was even willing to send me out a set of fuel rail that hadn't been anodized yet so I wouldn't miss my tune date. Walbro 485 fuel pump should be coming tomorrow or friday.

I was checking the for sale threads on here and I found TOPGUNZ selling all the stuff off his car!!! For cheap as hell too! Someone got a deal on all his fuel upgrades... too bad I was 4 months too late haha. Freakin wives and babies making you question your man toy priorities, no! you never have to grow up, just tie that baby down in the back of the Z! I will do a burnout in your honor Aaron for leading us all to higher hp / cooler running engines

diala4asian 11-30-2016 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bewhitey (Post 3584365)
Any of you guys recommend uprev GT MAFs with this A2A kit and E85? I have stock supercharger impeller and 8psi pulley

My car is at the tune shop right now... they talked me into going E85 so now I am waiting on all the fun parts to arrive that goes with that. 1000cc ID injectors came in today, CJ Motorsports S1.SE fuel system coming sometime... the fuel rails are on backorder! I was talking with Charles at CJ Motorsports, not sure if he is the owner or just works there, but that guy is awesome! He would immediately respond to all of my emails and was even willing to send me out a set of fuel rail that hadn't been anodized yet so I wouldn't miss my tune date. Walbro 485 fuel pump should be coming tomorrow or friday.

I was checking the for sale threads on here and I found TOPGUNZ selling all the stuff off his car!!! For cheap as hell too! Someone got a deal on all his fuel upgrades... too bad I was 4 months too late haha. Freakin wives and babies making you question your man toy priorities, no! you never have to grow up, just tie that baby down in the back of the Z! I will do a burnout in your honor Aaron for leading us all to higher hp / cooler running engines

I'm getting the A2A soon *fingers crossed* but I have everything you've listed, except i have the AAM fuel return system with rails and ECUtek tune

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TopgunZ 11-30-2016 07:35 PM

Oh don't worry, I have my man toy priorities. I may have lost the Z. But I gained a 2014 Ford Raptor 6.2L, 2015 Arctic Cat Wildcat sxs, and a 2016 Arctic Cat M6 sled. Now I can have fun all year round, on dirt and on snow!

bewhitey 12-01-2016 07:53 PM

yeah I figured as much, I have always wanted one of those snowcat truck/tank looking things that go like 15mph. Use it on the one day a year in colorado where it is a blizzard to go rob a bank or something. You'll never take me alive coppas!

ChaseZ 12-01-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3584376)
Oh don't worry, I have my man toy priorities. I may have lost the Z. But I gained a 2014 Ford Raptor 6.2L, 2015 Arctic Cat Wildcat sxs, and a 2016 Arctic Cat M6 sled. Now I can have fun all year round, on dirt and on snow!

Dirt fun is good fun too. Sold my JK with all the goodies just before picking up the Z. Enjoyed having a year-round toy but it was time for a change.

Z&I 12-01-2016 09:14 PM

[QUOTE= I may have lost the Z [/QUOTE]

Where' dja put it last ??? duh did u look in the garage ???

Jazz8560 12-14-2016 10:30 AM

Anything new fellas?

TopgunZ 12-14-2016 11:27 AM

Christmas time. Nobody is spending money on themselves this time of year. :crying: But Tax Return is just around the corner!!

milkcow500 12-14-2016 02:44 PM

I should have my serp side pulleys in this week and then hopefully be tuning for flex fuel very shortly after. Really curious what my numbers will be.

nic370 12-15-2016 02:59 PM

I'm hoping to have my install finished here in uk this comming weekend
Doubt I'll get tunned this side of Christmas tho

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BOLIO 671 12-15-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nic370 (Post 3590138)
I'm hoping to have my install finished here in uk this comming weekend
Doubt I'll get tunned this side of Christmas tho

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You and I are in the same boat my friend. I've had my kit sitting in storage since September. I have been totally busy with work this time of the year and so has my friend's shop. He finally cleared some space so we got the car on the lift last night and started prepping. I should be back rolling in a few days then off to tuning sessions with Seb.

ChaseZ 12-15-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3589641)
Christmas time. Nobody is spending money on themselves this time of year. :crying: But Tax Return is just around the corner!!

Unfortunately, that's big part of the reason I ended up putting off A/A until next winters teardown. Just too many expenses this time of year to get everything all at once. And the uber **** exchange rate doesn't help my cause either. :(

Plus I'm curious how the SC will do with just the impeller, pulley, frozenboost and relocated MAFs. I don't expect the kind of results you're showing here but hopefully I'm not disappointed in the meantime.

Optimiser 12-15-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3589641)
Christmas time. Nobody is spending money on themselves this time of year. :crying: But Tax Return is just around the corner!!

I'm spending lots on myself and we get our tax returns in the middle of the year here. My A to A is being installed by my shop right now and I expect it to be tuned and ready to go before Xmas. It's been delayed for weeks as my 4.08 LSD diff is being rebuilt due to bending the pinion shaft from hitting a metal object on the road. Had to reorder the parts as the first 4.08 FD set was damaged in transit! :mad::shakes head:
I've ordered a set of new RE11 tyres that I hope to have fitted and alignment done before Xmas as well.
I'm also spending over a grand on a new water cooled super graphics card for my gaming PC! Merry Xmas to me. :hohoho:

ByThaBay 12-16-2016 04:43 AM

I'm in the process of ordering this. Is the removal of the manifold intercooler component fairly straight forward? Like others have mentioned, I want to avoid removing the manifold if possible.

Can I just pull the unit straight out?

TBatt 12-16-2016 08:07 AM

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Christmas time. Nobody is spending money on themselves this time of year. :crying: But Tax Return is just around the corner!!

Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.

TopgunZ 12-16-2016 08:09 AM

There are 2 ways to remove it....

1. Take manifold off. Unbolt 4 bolts. Remove it. Reinstall manifold. (3/4 hour, if all goes well)
Will need tool provided for installation from Stillen or make own tool like i did.
or......
2. Unbolt 4 bolts. Pull out ic as far as possible. Tape off manifold area. Hack saw it off. Vacuum up any chips. (1/2 hour)

TopgunZ 12-16-2016 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3590387)
Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.

You'll shoot your eye out! ;) (christmas story reference)

TBatt 12-16-2016 08:29 AM

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Christmas time. Nobody is spending money on themselves this time of year. :crying: But Tax Return is just around the corner!!

Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.

jwick 12-16-2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3590387)
Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.



Henry is nice. I have a Marlin.

TBatt 12-16-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ByThaBay (Post 3590340)
I'm in the process of ordering this. Is the removal of the manifold intercooler component fairly straight forward? Like others have mentioned, I want to avoid removing the manifold if possible.

Can I just pull the unit straight out?

Yes, but be aware that on the far end of the Stillen heat exchanger it is attached to the inside of the manifold with strong double sided tape. When you pull the heat exchanger out the tape will come apart and some of it could fall down into the intake runners. To prevent any junk from falling into the engine I would remove the rear throttle body and run a vacuum hose in it to the rear of the manifold (where the tape is) so that any tape that tears loose will get sucked up by the vacuum as the unit is being pulled out.

I removed mine prior to installing the manifold because I went with the A2A from the beginning. You will have to really pry on it but it will come out.

BOLIO 671 12-17-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3590560)
Yes, but be aware that on the far end of the Stillen heat exchanger it is attached to the inside of the manifold with strong double sided tape. When you pull the heat exchanger out the tape will come apart and some of it could fall down into the intake runners. To prevent any junk from falling into the engine I would remove the rear throttle body and run a vacuum hose in it to the rear of the manifold (where the tape is) so that any tape that tears loose will get sucked up by the vacuum as the unit is being pulled out.

I removed mine prior to installing the manifold because I went with the A2A from the beginning. You will have to really pry on it but it will come out.

Yes I just discovered this during our tear down. I went ahead and removed the black adhesive. Taking off the manifold is a PITA but it's really the best and safest way to take the internal heat exchanger to ensure that u get everything out and no components are actually left in there. I was blown away by how much space the internal intercooler took up in the manifold. With it removed there is a lot of room for air flow now....

Once ur pass the manifold removal everything else is a walk in the park. Gonna clean up my manifold before I proceed with the install. A2A kit should be complete in the next 2 days if anything.

ChaseZ 12-17-2016 10:05 AM

What are you guys using to make a block off plate on the manifold, 3/16" alum plate?

TopgunZ 12-17-2016 12:24 PM

Thought you were relocating mafs and running water setup.

ChaseZ 12-17-2016 12:36 PM

I am, was just curious.

Rest of my parts hopefully show up next week so can start on it soon.

milkcow500 12-17-2016 12:43 PM

My god... No one knows the trouble I'm going through to get a damn spacer for my pulley. It's been past a month now and no luck. Build postponed until further notice :mad:

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Optimiser 12-18-2016 04:06 PM

Hi all, I need some help urgently.
As part of my Air to Air upgrade I've had my shop replace the stock Stillen SC pulley with a 2.8" Vortech hi traction SC pulley but they say they can't adjust the stock Stillen serpentine belt to fit/work and can't find a suitable replacement one.
Do you have any suggestions?

TopgunZ 12-18-2016 04:17 PM

Get a 3" idler pulley.

Optimiser 12-18-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3591299)
Get a 3" idler pulley.

Thankyou very much again TopZ. :tup:
My shop is looking into it now.

Optimiser 12-18-2016 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3591301)
Thankyou very much again TopZ. :tup:
My shop is looking into it now.

My shop just tried a 3.0" idler and the serp belt still can't be adjusted tight enough. Any bigger than 3" will have interference. Is there anything else I can do beside having to go ditch the 2.8" SC pulley and going to a 3.0"? :shakes head:

TopgunZ 12-18-2016 08:26 PM

Need to go 3.0" on sc and 3.4" on jackshaft to keep that ratio and the same idler. Or 9psi serp side and one of the options above with the 3" idler, but that will spin it even faster.

StillenZ84 12-18-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3591375)
My shop just tried a 3.0" idler and the serp belt still can't be adjusted tight enough. Any bigger than 3" will have interference. Is there anything else I can do beside having to go ditch the 2.8" SC pulley and going to a 3.0"? :shakes head:

Might go up to the 2.85". Thats what I did with the 3" idler and it will tighten it up enough to use.

Optimiser 12-19-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3591378)
Might go up to the 2.85". Thats what I did with the 3" idler and it will tighten it up enough to use.

Ok and thanks for that info although I'm trying to see if I can get a custom length 8PK530 (8) rib belt first before having to swap out SC pulleys again.

dboi941 12-20-2016 03:09 PM

Is the kit ready to be shipped or is there some build time involved?
Also I have a 2016 370 Nismo, There will be no problems with the front bumper right?
Also with I need to get it retuned? Right away?
Thanks for your time OP.

JWillis72 12-21-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dboi941 (Post 3592195)
Is the kit ready to be shipped or is there some build time involved?

Also I have a 2016 370 Nismo, There will be no problems with the front bumper right?

Also with I need to get it retuned? Right away?

Thanks for your time OP.



You will have to tune it before you drive it. The MAFs are moving to after the supercharger, that changes everything.


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dboi941 12-21-2016 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3592444)
You will have to tune it before you drive it. The MAFs are moving to after the supercharger, that changes everything.


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I was hoping to be able to drive it to my tuner after the instill about 10 miles away. Also you have a nice setup I seen alot of your post.


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