Breaking NEWS - GammaMotors Terminated SAM

bullitt5897

Loopholes?

Do you know the transaction Sam had with Gamma? Do you have details of the deal? Do you know exactly what they bought? Do you know the revisions of the deal or how many it took?

I can tell you I have seen and heard first hand the high level details... In no way shape or form do they owe anything! Legally or Morally.... What you see from Todd, Zeliminator and Myself is the sanity of the situation. We know more than most. I know way more than a majority and I can tell you the high level of what went down.

They bought the intellectual property to the kits along with a few other products. They also re-established vendor/manufacturer relationships. They did indeed part ways with Sam. Despite what most of you choose to believe they are here to make products. The fact they are working with many of us says leaps and bounds to their morality!

So before we grab our torches and pitchforks lets get a hold of the facts! Stop making emotional decisions and start being logical. If anyone has a right to make an emotional decision its Zeliminator and myself. We have spent more money with Sam and GTM than most pay for their cars. This is also why we are so close to the knowledge of whats going on... You spend this kind of money you make sure you know whats going on with the business.

So lets keep it civil and keep this on topic to what people are experiencing with Gamma so the Admins and others will have first hand accounts of peoples dealings with the possible vendor.

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Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z *SOLD*, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054

JARblue

Ok, we don't have to call them legal loopholes. We can call it capitalism: business (i.e. $$$) > consumer. It's just the way it works when a company owes customers more money than they have and declares bankruptcy. Call it what you will. I never claimed to know any of the details. But if it looks like a scam and smells like a scam, it's probably a scam. Gamma doesn't look to be directly scamming customers at this point, I'm happy to see, and I never said otherwise.

But there is still a problem with Gamma in regards to the morality of the whole situation:

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bullitt5897

Lets clear this up. GAMMA is not selling previously sold kits to people... There is no morality issue here. I was in the shop a few months before GTM moved. I had several people in and out of the shop as well. I can tell you this as a fact. The inventory Sam had was not of complete kits as a matter of fact he didnt have much in the way of partial kits... They were finished and shipped out. When Gamma bought the intellectual property they had to start from scratch. Inventory was extremely limited when they bought in. If you guys were actually in the shop leading up to the transaction you would know this.

Stop trying to make connections where there is none. Here is the biggest issue. We all got burned by GTM! Does it Suck YES! in the case for some of us its worse than others. Now GAMMA a new company owned by different people bought the intellectual property to the SC'r and TT kits along with some other misc. products. They opened up shop in a new facility that Sam had procured. (to those saying why do they have to be in the US... these guys are based out of the middle east... you want to pay that shipping cost?). Gamma is both a different legal entity and different ownership and management. All the inventory is new and fresh. None of the inventory consisted of previously sold kits.

Now that we are straight... back on topic...

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Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z *SOLD*, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054

JARblue

I'm not sure this was ever made clear

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warpeacelove

I Have Spent over $17K with GTM.