Breaking NEWS - GammaMotors Terminated SAM

Elmo370z

Wow, I be getting couple hard nose buddies together to pay a visit. that is a lot of money. Wish you the best of luck

FPenvy

this ^^^^^^^^^^

this is when I laugh at the few on here repping GTM/Gamma like some fuckin addict fresh out of rehab.

zelim got that much money missing and cant get a phone call returned but you other people say you're in talks with sam and gamma and emails blah blah blah bullshit.

I really cant give them any slack even with the "firing sam" PR stunt.

even if these people are made whole i'm still gonna have to talk down about GTM/Gamma and ALWAYS steer fellow Z/G brothers in a better direction for their part needs.

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GZ3

if Sam the Scam doesnt come thru for Z elim, this community will go nuts.

rightfully so, we are all on the same team, a smear campaign is not big deal to me if I can spare another victim

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bullitt5897

Zeliminator will be in good hands. We have locals that have helped tremendously in his efforts. Sam was also honest with Zeliminator on the status of his motor. We know where his motor and parts are and Zeliminator is in talks with all parties involved. I have also given him a few extra communication paths and will most definitely be helping him retrieve his parts.

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GZ3

That is really good to hear, looking forward to a positive outcome

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GZ3

I hope you get your stuff Z elim...

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Zbrah

$26,000! Yikes!! Most guys didn't even pay that much for their Z. I honestly hope they pull their head from their asses and make it right for you man. Gamma, if you want to earn our trust, here would be a good start. Take care of Z elimnator and return to him what he's owed.

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Z eliminator

I talked to Sam. last week
But im not sure that Gamma knows what is happing.
May be it will take some time for them to contact me as others may be ahead of me.
I know were my engine is and how much work has been done to it.
Sam was very honest and upfront with me about that.
he told me the truth about it and he was not lying to me .
If they had my pistons I would have had the 4.2 stroker in a short time.
For the most of times he has been very honest with me.
it just takes forever.
Since the pistons were missing I decided to go for a 4.5 stroker, they have the sleeves and only have to order the pistons. I have not paid for these parts.
My stage 3 heads are done and completed.
Hopefully Gamma will call me.
To date I have no issues with them, and I expect them to complete my engine and ship it to me, with all the engine parts on it.
All they have to do is ask Pablo.
I like him a lot as he always treated me with respect.
The same goes for Mike,
Im willing to work with Gamma

Z eliminator.

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FPenvy

you're quite the optimist for having 26k just floating around somewhere.

i really hope you are made whole and don't get it from behind anymore from sam, gtm, gamma. i know you say sam calls you and whatnot but how long has it been that you've been waiting? i swear for the last 3 years I've seen you talk about this engine and SC kit that you've been waiting on.

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Z eliminator

I got the Stage 2 kit SC. still waiting for the Stage 3 upgrades.
It came with all the parts
The stage 3. 7 AT was also shipped and I have it.

Z

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Elmo370z

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bullitt5897

Also, they are not selling the MHI turbo kits... they are selling the V3 kits based on the Garrett Turbocharger platform...

For those thinking Sam just walked with the GB money you would be dead wrong. He ran into production issues... The manifolds to fit the MHI turbos and the turbos themselves had issues. He went through over a dozen investment casts for the turbo manifolds alone... which is what was taking so long... I saw them all lined up on the floor and held them in my hands... The money from those sales went to the kits the problem was he did the GB too early and hadnt finished the development of the kit. I was saying this back in the day when issues started arising. This was a bad business decision and many of us got burned... He attempted to pay back people and I know he worked out deals with several people but I dont know if everyone got taken care of. Now I know some people may be able to upgrade to the V3 kit with Gamma in order to offset their loss. In that they are being very generous... they are not bound legally or morally to any former customers of GTM.

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bullitt5897

MHI does not equal V3 just FYI... the only common pieces were ancillary items and the turbo manifolds. The V3 manifolds had to be developed by a new manufacturer to get the issues sorted.

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Zbrah

So because you and vivid spents xxx amounts of money with gtm and small joe on the forum only spent x amount. You guys deserve higher priority and prompt attention? Sorry man, but that condescending attitude is what drove that business to the ground. This forum is full of potential customers like small joe, and your words doesn't instill much confidence right now. I hope this new company learn from that mistake and start treating each one of their customer, large or small, with the same level of respect and service, and not just the selected few. So far gamma haven't shown any signs of that. So before we start talking about possible vendor status. How about making amends with all the unhappy customers first! That's how you earn credibility and establish new client base. It's basic business 101. Not this "We are not legally or morrally obligated" bull crap. If you don't think there is anything wrong with the way this company answered its potential customer, you're very much contributing to its problem. And I don't care if their products are the best in the business (which I highhly doubt), if they can't establish trust with their customers base, they will be gone quicker than you can spell out C A N C E R.

Possible vendor : yeah, good luck with that!

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birdman71

You do understand that they bought intellectual property meaning Sam's ideas correct? They bought misc. stuff like bullitt stated because there was no product. Everything is brand new made by Gamma. That being said when they offer someone that got SCREWED over by SAM (NOT GAMMA MOTORS) their TT kit for 2k, yes that 2k seems unfair to the customer but if you look at the 8k loss they are taking on a brand new turbo kit they had to produce from scratch; the loss they are taking by even offering the unhappy customers of GTM a chance at their turbo kit for 2k should be immensely appreciated because since they DO NOT have any of the "Owed Product" that Sam owes everyone. So they are taking an 8k loss per TT kit and you are complaining?

That is something most business will shoot down in the conference room because they are losing 80% on everything they sell to the GTM customers trying to fix Sam's mistake; all to try and earn them as a customer and show them that they are taking a huge loss to set things straight for the ones that did get screwed over.
Heck if I offered 80% off on all the insurance premiums I sell my boss would probably literally kill me. Why? because its something a business should never have to consider. But they are.

If anything this should be something that everyone should be happy about (I understand that a lot of money has been invested by a lot of people) but your only other option at this point is to wait in line with the Lawsuits.

Choose one.

A. Complain about how Gamma isn't doing things correctly even though all true evidence based off math, logic, and in person evidence (provided by Bullitt and Z elim) rather you can use your irrational emotions based on SAM's screw up and wait in line with the rest of the people for the lawsuit

B. Accept the fact that Gamma motors is doing everyone a favor even though it will cost everyone who has had money invested an extra 2k to more than likely upgrade to the v3 kits.

The choice is yours, may the odds ever be in your favor.

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