Breaking NEWS - GammaMotors Terminated SAM

SouthArk370Z · 10-05-2015, 01:54 PM

I'd give it at least a few months before spending any money on their products. I'd let others test the waters and see what their reviews look like. Caveat emptor and all that rot. But I've gotten pretty cynical in my old age, so YMMV.

GZ3 · 10-05-2015, 02:01 PM

I applaud GAMMA, this was a smart move and a JUST move. The community is strong when we stand together and having "SAM the SCAM" employed there made for bad business image. That alone would steer business away... Im certain that this thread made it to their eyes.

jaytirbhaw · 10-05-2015, 02:03 PM

Almost feel bad for him but then I remember the hundreds of people out thousands of dollars. Well nonetheless, hope he learns from his mistakes.

Now, let's see what Gamma can do.

vividracing · 10-05-2015, 02:25 PM

Working out the deal Sam was giving us to make sure it holds true with the new CEO. Who knows if what Sam offered us off on the next 6 kits was approved by Amin.

I'll update my sales thread as soon as I know anything.

JARblue · 10-05-2015, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amin via vividracing

We may use his services on an as needed basis, again for the best interest of our customers for continuity’s sake.

FPenvy · 10-05-2015, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

It's true.

"We may use his services on an as needed basis, again for the best interest of our customers for continuity’s sake."

"If anything he will just be brought in as a consultant as needed, far far away from any business operations with Gamma."

soooo this is like saying they may stick it in you raw.......

but might may actually spit on it first?

vividracing · 10-05-2015, 03:28 PM

Update. My discount on the next 6 kits are authorized. Waiting on a new price sheet and then I should be all ready to give out estimates.

I also addressed the warranty on the current supercharger kit I have in stock and will confirm it will come with the same warranty as the V3 kits available now for anyone interested.

Thank you for your patience everyone.

birdman71 · 10-05-2015, 03:44 PM

Very Nice Todd!
Wish I had the extra

right now because I would love to honestly have one of those twin supercharger kits if still available.

batboyvaj · 10-05-2015, 03:54 PM

Not sure if I can believe this. I would be more willing to hand over cash if Gamma can make all the people who have paid up front for the V3 and other parts that are owed whole again.

vividracing · 10-05-2015, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batboyvaj

Not sure if I can believe this. I would be more willing to hand over cash if Gamma can make all the people who have paid up front for the V3 and other parts that are owed whole again.

Everyone has a right to protest. However I think the company needs to start making money in order to negotiate with those who are outed.

For the rest of you, if you didn't catch my posts in the other thread:

For anything not immediately ready to ship I will only require a deposit. Otherwise payment can come via PayPal, Debit or Credit card paid to Vivid Racing, not Gamma.

Just waiting on the price sheet and will then start replying to PMs requesting pricing.

Todd

Rusty · 10-05-2015, 04:22 PM

So, officially Sam is gone. But will retain his services as a consultant.

Hmmmm sounds like what I'm going to do next spring when I retire.

Zbrah · 10-05-2015, 04:55 PM

Ousting that scammer was just a first step which gamma should have done in the first place. Don't forget they still haven't made good with the group buy guys. Imo, they don't deserve any support from this community and other until they delivered complete kits owed to those guys.

birdman71 · 10-05-2015, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah

Ousting that scammer was just a first step which gamma should have done in the first place. Don't forget they still haven't made good with the group buy guys. Imo, they don't deserve any support from this community and other until they delivered complete kits owed to those guys.

Gamma doesn't legally have to do anything about GTM/Sam's screw up. The fact that they are offering to take care of the upset customers of GTM to try and earn them as customers is their own marketing decision and a favor they were doing because Sam was aboard. They don't have to offer anyone from the Group Buy anything, yet even after Sam is gone they are still doing so.

At this point if you don't want to take a deal that Gamma is offering then there's a line for the lawsuit against Sam and pretty much stealing money from the group buy people.

Its Option A or Option B at this point

Zbrah · 10-05-2015, 05:24 PM

Legally they are not but morally they are selling parts that belongs to the guys in the group buy. Those guys are members of this community. We are all here to support one another if some people have forgotten that. Gamma is banned from here and myg37 for a reason. I still stand by my comment.

tonyHTX · 10-05-2015, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam

Sam will still work behind the curtains with them. They hired him knowing he's a crook, it wasn't news to them, so please don't insult us with this BS.

This. Followed by:

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

We may use his services on an as needed basis, again for the best interest of our customers for continuity’s sake.

If anything he will just be brought in as a consultant as needed, far far away from any business operations with Gamma.

G37Sam hit the nail on the head.

10-05-2015, 01:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	I'd give it at least a few months before spending any money on their products. I'd let others test the waters and see what their reviews look like. Caveat emptor and all that rot. But I've gotten pretty cynical in my old age, so YMMV. GaleForce and Zbrah like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

10-05-2015, 02:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	I applaud GAMMA, this was a smart move and a JUST move. The community is strong when we stand together and having "SAM the SCAM" employed there made for bad business image. That alone would steer business away... Im certain that this thread made it to their eyes. Zbrah likes this. __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

10-05-2015, 02:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
jaytirbhaw Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 814 Drives: 350z HR , Nismo 370z Rep Power: 16	Almost feel bad for him but then I remember the hundreds of people out thousands of dollars. Well nonetheless, hope he learns from his mistakes. Now, let's see what Gamma can do. __________________ 2014 Nismo #350 , Built Motor, Top Mount Single Turbo .... 620 whp/ 500 lbs wtq 2012 Track/Drift Z, build coming soon. Build Thread - http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...70z-build.html

10-05-2015, 02:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 38	Working out the deal Sam was giving us to make sure it holds true with the new CEO. Who knows if what Sam offered us off on the next 6 kits was approved by Amin. I'll update my sales thread as soon as I know anything. bullitt5897 likes this. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

10-05-2015, 03:28 PM	#22 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 38	Update. My discount on the next 6 kits are authorized. Waiting on a new price sheet and then I should be all ready to give out estimates. I also addressed the warranty on the current supercharger kit I have in stock and will confirm it will come with the same warranty as the V3 kits available now for anyone interested. Thank you for your patience everyone. bullitt5897 and birdman71 like this. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

10-05-2015, 03:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
birdman71 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,579 Drives: People Crazy! Rep Power: 40	Very Nice Todd! Wish I had the extra right now because I would love to honestly have one of those twin supercharger kits if still available. vividracing likes this. __________________ *Birdman's Build:* Powerhouse Amuse/ Nismo/ Eibach/ ACT/ Tommy Kaira/ Avant Garde/ Fast Intentions/ Project Kics/ Fly 1 Motorsports/ EVO-R/ Z1 Motorsports/ Weber Sports/ Zoom/ Zele Japan

10-05-2015, 03:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
batboyvaj Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: mn Posts: 111 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 13	Not sure if I can believe this. I would be more willing to hand over cash if Gamma can make all the people who have paid up front for the V3 and other parts that are owed whole again. Zbrah likes this.

10-05-2015, 04:22 PM	#26 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,861 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	So, officially Sam is gone. But will retain his services as a consultant. Hmmmm sounds like what I'm going to do next spring when I retire. FPenvy, GaleForce, elperuano and 1 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

10-05-2015, 04:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5451	Ousting that scammer was just a first step which gamma should have done in the first place. Don't forget they still haven't made good with the group buy guys. Imo, they don't deserve any support from this community and other until they delivered complete kits owed to those guys. JARblue and elperuano like this. __________________

10-05-2015, 05:24 PM	#29 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5451	Legally they are not but morally they are selling parts that belongs to the guys in the group buy. Those guys are members of this community. We are all here to support one another if some people have forgotten that. Gamma is banned from here and myg37 for a reason. I still stand by my comment. Infiniti370z, JARblue and elperuano like this. __________________

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