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Z&I 02-26-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3423471)
Do you have any pics by chance?


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Unfortunately I don't.
The project was terminated a year ago due to cost overruns and delays.
The shop doing the work had bit off a bit more than they could chew.
Had to pull the car out of the shop and send it down to AAM.
It's now in the last phase of a custom Twin Turbo build.

TopgunZ 02-26-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3423399)
So the oil pressure sending unit location should be ok with out a scavenge pump?


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That is your feed line and yes.

Pauly Z 02-26-2016 02:02 PM

Well Vortech called back and said my v3 cases are good. I don't think I have it in me to spend the extra and try and get the v2 to work. Lol. Just want the car to run on this air to air.

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Pauly Z 02-26-2016 02:21 PM

Question that I have regarding ecutek is do I need the stock gauge cluster? Cause I have aftermarket gauges in those spots.

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EVOHUNTER 02-26-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3423700)
Question that I have regarding ecutek is do I need the stock gauge cluster? Cause I have aftermarket gauges in those spots.

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Last I heard you need those to get all the features, but contact Sebz from speciality Z, he'll give you a dead on answer!

JWillis72 02-26-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3423700)
Question that I have regarding ecutek is do I need the stock gauge cluster? Cause I have aftermarket gauges in those spots.

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I've been trying to figure this out for the traction control. It's not going to work on the gauges you have but we are going to try it through the OBD port to see if we can read it.


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Z&I 02-27-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3423736)
I've been trying to figure this out for the traction control. It's not going to work on the gauges you have but we are going to try it through the OBD port to see if we can read it.


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The EcuTek hijacks the OEM cluster Oil Pressure gauge to indicate the Slip Control setting.
The Ecutek also hijacks the Cruise Controls on the steering wheel to set the Launch RPM.

I also don't have the OEM cluster gauges anymore ... so AAM is installing a manual rotary switch in order to set the Slip.
Once set to your liking then it is only a matter of tweaking it a position or so to accommodate different road conditions.
Here is the link to that switch - it is actually a custom motorcycle shop and the switch is located about halfway down the page so keep scrolling:

https://www.rbracing-rsr.com

Hope this helps ...

JWillis72 02-27-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3424332)
The EcuTek hijacks the OEM cluster Oil Pressure gauge to indicate the Slip Control setting.
The Ecutek also hijacks the Cruise Controls on the steering wheel to set the Launch RPM.

I also don't have the OEM cluster gauges anymore ... so AAM is installing a manual rotary switch in order to set the Slip.
Once set to your liking then it is only a matter of tweaking it a position or so to accommodate different road conditions.
Here is the link to that switch - it is actually a custom motorcycle shop and the switch is located about halfway down the page so keep scrolling:

https://www.rbracing-rsr.com

Hope this helps ...

That helps a ton, thank you! Is it the one with 3 switches on it? Do you know how they tied it into the car?

Z&I 02-27-2016 12:01 PM

It's actually a single switch ... click style rotary ... Either 4 or 8 positions.

AAM ordered it for me [and have already received it] so I don't know the price just yet.

Their engineer at AAM checked it out and says it will work with EcuTek.
[I'm not 100% sure just how it will be wired in].
You might try contacting the EcuTek tuner or EcuTek Support for the particulars.

I'll probably physically mount it in the 3 place blank by the cup holder.

JUST CHECKED THE SITE ...
Seems that they've upgraded their system to the 3 switches.
The single rotary switch isn't on there now.
Try contacting them to see if it is still available.

JWillis72 02-27-2016 12:14 PM

This?

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Z&I 02-27-2016 12:31 PM

That is what I just found when I went back to their site.
The site has to have been updated within the last month or so since I last was on it.
That is their newest one.
The single switch one I was referring to isn't on there any more.
Give them a call or email to see if they still have the single one in stock or if they can make one for you.
You really only need the 1 switch for the slip control.
It looks like a regular tear drop selector switch on the outside but the electronics underneath are the heart of it.
But that 3 switch one looks to be pretty awesome if you have a use for it.

Pauly Z 02-27-2016 12:36 PM

We need a DIY thread on this. Lol

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Z&I 02-27-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3424358)
We need a DIY thread on this. Lol

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I'll pump AAM on the details once they get it installed ...
But what I've been able to piece together is that they will be using the 1 aux input to the ECU to feed the out put from the rotary switch.
That's my understanding of how they explained it to me.
What that means in Engish ? - I don't know... ;-)

They are scheduled to put the motor back in with the stage 2 TT upgrade, then wire it all up and put the dash back in.
[Installing a few Innovate gauges and a 5" Defi racer tach].

I've given up trying to figure out how long it will be.

JWillis72 02-27-2016 01:01 PM

I'm going to have the shop contact ecutek next week to see what they say.


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Z&I 02-27-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3424367)
I'm going to have the shop contact ecutek next week to see what they say.

hey 'J' ...
I just emailed and requested the status/availability for that rotary switch.

JWillis72 02-27-2016 06:58 PM

Thank you!


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jwick 02-27-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3424353)
That is what I just found when I went back to their site.
The site has to have been updated within the last month or so since I last was on it.
That is their newest one.
The single switch one I was referring to isn't on there any more.
Give them a call or email to see if they still have the single one in stock or if they can make one for you.
You really only need the 1 switch for the slip control.
It looks like a regular tear drop selector switch on the outside but the electronics underneath are the heart of it.
But that 3 switch one looks to be pretty awesome if you have a use for it.


Any idea how or if these function on a G which has no factory gauges?

JWillis72 02-27-2016 08:12 PM

I guess that will depend on what the switch ties in to and if the G has it.


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jwick 02-27-2016 08:20 PM

The sender is the same on both cars and obviously the ECU knows EOT so it's possible.

JWillis72 02-27-2016 08:23 PM

As soon as we get the new supercharger we will start trying to come up with a way for it to work.


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JWillis72 02-27-2016 08:24 PM

The owner of the shop my car is at worked for aam so he may have a contact there he can talk to.


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Z&I 02-28-2016 11:02 AM

Hey JWillis ...

I did hear back from rb Racing ... that switch is a special order item - custom made as needed.
These guys are serious in what they do,which is racing, and take pride in their craftmanship.
You'll need to contact them directly after you talk with AAM or EcuTek.

In the meantime - here is a youtube of the EcuTek launch control being demonstrated in a 370z.
https://youtu.be/TzEf5pnEIVw

Since you are a track racer you might not even have the need for Launch Control - or if you only use it occasionally you can always set it by trial and error and just leave it.

In this case you should be able to hijack the Cruise Control and use it for the Traction Control instead.
Double Check with EcuTek on this to see if it is a good option.

JWillis72 02-28-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3424796)
Hey JWillis ...

I did hear back from rb Racing ... that switch is a special order item - custom made as needed.
These guys are serious in what they do,which is racing, and take pride in their craftmanship.
You'll need to contact them directly after you talk with AAM or EcuTek.

In the meantime - here is a youtube of the EcuTek launch control being demonstrated in a 370z.
https://youtu.be/TzEf5pnEIVw

Since you are a track racer you might not even have the need for Launch Control - or if you only use it occasionally you can always set it by trial and error and just leave it.

In this case you should be able to hijack the Cruise Control and use it for the Traction Control instead.
Double Check with EcuTek on this to see if it is a good option.

Thanks again, I will call them tomorrow and get one ordered.

Pauly Z 02-28-2016 12:44 PM

Too bad us 7at guys can't have launch control :(

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Z&I 02-28-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z (Post 3424821)
Too bad us 7at guys can't have launch control :(

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Why not ???
Do a search on youtube for the EcuTek Traction control...
They have a few for the GTR which is also an Automatic.
Here's just 1 ...

https://youtu.be/iebn4q_QU68

Pauly Z 02-28-2016 01:21 PM

The website says it's not available for 7at. And the gtr comes with launch control stock. My guess is the ecutek just modifies it. I will have to talk with Seb and see what we can do

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Z&I 02-28-2016 04:20 PM

I totally forgot that JWillis has a 7AT - totally different than my 6MT... but we will find out when he checks it out ...
Looking forward to what Seb says as well...
Hope I didn't cause a big ooopsie here.

JWillis72 02-28-2016 04:33 PM

No I don't think so, I want the traction control and don't care about launch control at all. My biggest hope is that it will allow more yaw so the car can side through turns without cutting power.


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Pauly Z 02-28-2016 07:24 PM

I would think that we would still be able to adjust traction control, but just not on the fly with the racerom using the stock gauge. We will have to confirm this with Seb though.

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StillenZ84 02-28-2016 07:40 PM

I emailed Seb earlier this morning asking about this. We are in the middle of my flex fuel tune so he should email back tonight or tomorrow morning. It was my understanding that the traction control was fully adjustable by the driver using the oil temp gauge.

Z&I 02-28-2016 07:41 PM

This is what I'm thinking as well - but if you don't have the stock gauge then it's just trial and error until you get the right setting...

Z&I 03-02-2016 06:31 PM

Any word yet ???
Still might be a good idea to use that rotary switch for the Slip Control ...
Would probably be easier and faster than fiddling with the Cruise Control, and you might be able to do it on the fly as well...

JWillis72 03-02-2016 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3427781)
Any word yet ???
Still might be a good idea to use that rotary switch for the Slip Control ...
Would probably be easier and faster than fiddling with the Cruise Control, and you might be able to do it on the fly as well...

No, we have emailed ecutek but haven't got an answer. My blower is tomorrow so we should be giving it a try again next week.

StillenZ84 03-02-2016 06:39 PM

I couldn't get a direct answer out of Seb either. He wants to get my tune finished before we mess with the traction control.

JWillis72 03-02-2016 07:07 PM

I'm kind of getting the same thing.

JWillis72 03-08-2016 06:49 PM

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JWillis72 03-08-2016 06:52 PM

Started it without the supercharger and the engine sounds great and isn't smoking. The MAF reading is bouncing around a little so we may have some small leaks. The new supercharger is much quieter than the old one.


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Pauly Z 03-08-2016 07:06 PM

So it does work to clock the supercharger down. What all did you have to trim to do that?

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JWillis72 03-08-2016 07:10 PM

Nothing, just loosen the screws on the back and twist it. This is the same way Topgunz did his.


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