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Originally Posted by brucelidat So a SC kit with much fewer parts would have less chances of things going wrong and would also be easier for a novice to learn

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Old 05-04-2015, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So a SC kit with much fewer parts would have less chances of things going wrong and would also be easier for a novice to learn to inspect for issues?
A novice shouldn't be modifying a car this dramatically. It's not novice territory. You need to know WHY things happen, not just what part goes where. Start doing your homework. Corky Bell wrote a book on turbocharging, and one on supercharging. Go read both of those.

Since you're asking about supercharger kits, I'm assuming you mean Stillen. They have more popped motors than anyone else. That's not "less chance of things going wrong".
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Since you're asking about supercharger kits, I'm assuming you mean Stillen. They have more popped motors than anyone else. That's not "less chance of things going wrong".[/QUOTE]

From my research on the forums, it seems like those are all from modding the kit for more power. It seems that the kit is reliable in stock form (with a custom tune) so if one is happy with that (approx 410whp, 300wtrq) then it would be fine.

The real question is would I be happy with that. The question on the turbo front is can I justify the extra cost as well as learn enough quickly enough to feel comfortable with the risks involved with it.
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Since you're asking about supercharger kits, I'm assuming you mean Stillen. They have more popped motors than anyone else. That's not "less chance of things going wrong".

From my research on the forums, it seems like those are all from modding the kit for more power. It seems that the kit is reliable in stock form (with a custom tune) so if one is happy with that (approx 410whp, 300wtrq) then it would be fine.

The real question is would I be happy with that. The question on the turbo front is can I justify the extra cost as well as learn enough quickly enough to
feel comfortable with the risks involved with it.
HP is addictive. No matter how much you have, it'll start feeling slow in no time. With the Stillen kit you will be locked into the power level. With a turbo set up there are always upgrades for more power.

I notice you have a 7AT so unless you are also willing to pony up the additional funding to strengthen that tranny, turbo is out for you as it'll break.
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aint that the truth. 600 whp and i want more
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aint that the truth. 600 whp and i want more
Even at 930rwhp and I want more.... Nah just kidding that much power will scare the **** out of you trust me! Coming up on cars like they are in reverse and doing 60mph!

Honestly, having a boosted Z and a NA Z is really weird going from one car to the other lol... I get out of the 450zTT and into the nismo and its like whats broken... the 450z has 3 times the power!!! and the nismo feels like a damn miata!!!
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Even at 930rwhp and I want more.... Nah just kidding that much power will scare the **** out of you trust me! Coming up on cars like they are in reverse and doing 60mph!

Honestly, having a boosted Z and a NA Z is really weird going from one car to the other lol... I get out of the 450zTT and into the nismo and its like whats broken... the 450z has 3 times the power!!! and the nismo feels like a damn miata!!!
930rwhp un-useable power. Do get me wrong they're such a thing as to much and not enough. 1k hp z is , but can't be applied in normal conditions. The next step I would go is making it a AWD for the TX mile.
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930rwhp un-useable power. Do get me wrong they're such a thing as to much and not enough. 1k hp z is , but can't be applied in normal conditions. The next step I would go is making it a AWD for the TX mile.
Actually it is usable power... I know first hand with proper throttle modulation this car is stupid fast. I can get out and in trouble very easily and controllable!

One thing I do like about the 4.5L mated to GT35R turbos is that my 4th gear dyno pull looks like a supercharger line... straight all the way to redline. The car makes continuous and linear power throughout the rpm range.

Obviously traction can be an issue and with this much power it takes skilled hands to drive the car... Hence why I dont let anyone drive it... My wife doesnt even drive it...
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Since you're asking about supercharger kits, I'm assuming you mean Stillen. They have more popped motors than anyone else. That's not "less chance of things going wrong".

From my research on the forums, it seems like those are all from modding the kit for more power. It seems that the kit is reliable in stock form (with a custom tune) so if one is happy with that (approx 410whp, 300wtrq) then it would be fine.

The real question is would I be happy with that. The question on the turbo front is can I justify the extra cost as well as learn enough quickly enough to feel comfortable with the risks involved with it.
Even at stock power levels that kit is playing with fire IMO. The maf being before the compressor and intercooler scares the absolute hell out of me. Especially considering you'll be running 91 octane.
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A novice shouldn't be modifying a car this dramatically. It's not novice territory. You need to know WHY things happen, not just what part goes where. Start doing your homework. Corky Bell wrote a book on turbocharging, and one on supercharging. Go read both of those.

Since you're asking about supercharger kits, I'm assuming you mean Stillen. They have more popped motors than anyone else. That's not "less chance of things going wrong".
As Chuck has stated, and/or in another words, If you don't know the mechanics and the "whys" behind forced induction (either turbo or supercharger) then you will be on a long and painful road. Forced induction does not mean get on the gas as often as you can and expect for everything to be all peachy, especially if the engine was converted from N/A to F/I.
Besides the extra power there are some "unwanted extras" that comes with it I.E. extra heat (plenty of it), extra stress, extra pressure (either positive or negative), extra wear and tear, frequent and more periodic inspections, extra care on other areas and the list goes on and on.
The main difference as to be "worry/maintenance free" which is a lie, is the type of system is installed. Is it an e-bay kit installed in your garage or is it a well know and reputable company doing the engine build and taking in consideration most of the possible "can go wrong" aspects into the equation.
I hear young kids talking so much about "x amount of boost" and they think that is all needed to know. Boost amounts is actually irrelevant, for example; 8 or 9 lbs of boost in a well build engine can outperform an e-bay quick install kit that is "rated" at making 15 lbs of boost.
Do your homework, don't be afraid of asking questions and you will see what most of us are saying here. By no means, I'm discouraging you from going force induction, (force induction is as addictive as sex) but the issue is not as simple as "install and forget".
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As Chuck has stated, and/or in another words, If you don't know the mechanics and the "whys" behind forced induction (either turbo or supercharger) then you will be on a long and painful road. Forced induction does not mean get on the gas as often as you can and expect for everything to be all peachy, especially if the engine was converted from N/A to F/I.
Besides the extra power there are some "unwanted extras" that comes with it I.E. extra heat (plenty of it), extra stress, extra pressure (either positive or negative), extra wear and tear, frequent and more periodic inspections, extra care on other areas and the list goes on and on.
The main difference as to be "worry/maintenance free" which is a lie, is the type of system is installed. Is it an e-bay kit installed in your garage or is it a well know and reputable company doing the engine build and taking in consideration most of the possible "can go wrong" aspects into the equation.
I hear young kids talking so much about "x amount of boost" and they think that is all needed to know. Boost amounts is actually irrelevant, for example; 8 or 9 lbs of boost in a well build engine can outperform an e-bay quick install kit that is "rated" at making 15 lbs of boost.
Do your homework, don't be afraid of asking questions and you will see what most of us are saying here. By no means, I'm discouraging you from going force induction, (force induction is as addictive as sex) but the issue is not as simple as "install and forget".
I'll read up on it since I am waiting for finished pricing on the Fats Intentions 7at upgrade anway. If I did go TT, it would definitely be the FI kit installed and tuned by them/Specialty Z. They seem to have the best designed, most efficient and most thought out kit.
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