Replica body Kit?

ZeeingAround · 07-27-2011, 06:47 PM

wow, looks like an episode of Jersey houswives in here. you can feel the love.

Hdskull said it. we are paying for their economy and they and other countries don't want to play fair with trade. I do believe we are in a debacle here ( our economy)caused in part from the rapid and mass copying that both China and Japan took part in. From the smallest of items like toys, DVDs to the largest in machine and electrical items along with So much intellectual property copied and then sold back to us. Look what it did for their economy.
It is your hard earned money and you live in a free country. Spend your money to make the car the way you want. I could care less, just appreciate what we all have and can do to our cars. I love the diversity of vendors, users, and people who make a living at this that are on this site.

tabrams31 · 07-29-2011, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeingAround

wow, looks like an episode of Jersey houswives in here. you can feel the love.

Hdskull said it. we are paying for their economy and they and other countries don't want to play fair with trade. I do believe we are in a debacle here ( our economy)caused in part from the rapid and mass copying that both China and Japan took part in. From the smallest of items like toys, DVDs to the largest in machine and electrical items along with So much intellectual property copied and then sold back to us. Look what it did for their economy.
It is your hard earned money and you live in a free country. Spend your money to make the car the way you want. I could care less, just appreciate what we all have and can do to our cars. I love the diversity of vendors, users, and people who make a living at this that are on this site.

Well said!!!!

vividracing · 07-27-2011, 07:12 PM

I'm a huge proponent of not buying replica/knock off stuff. That doesn't mean that you have to buy the high end "baller" parts, either. There's plenty of companies that make original & high quality parts without charging an arm and a leg. Agency Power makes great stuff, and it's priced fair.

gaveup · 07-28-2011, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I'm a huge proponent of not buying replica/knock off stuff. That doesn't mean that you have to buy the high end "baller" parts, either. There's plenty of companies that make original & high quality parts without charging an arm and a leg. Agency Power makes great stuff, and it's priced fair.

So does Megan, but no one would ever want to say they are basically the same company...

chuckd05 · 07-27-2011, 09:20 PM

Who cares?

<------ Not this guy !!!!

happytheman · 07-30-2011, 07:44 PM

Ok..I'm going to put my opinion in here just so's it can be shared. Keep in mind, that this is merely an opinion.

I personally do not see any issues with companies here in the states reproducing items that originated elsewhere. This activity has been going on for a long time, and not just here in the states. Asian countries copy American products ALL THE TIME. Back in the 60's and 70's Japanese-produced copies of Gibson and Fender were pretty prevalent. Hell, the top items copied today that were originally made in the states include toys, jewelry, watches, pharmaceuticals, clothing, shoes, electronics, handbags and etc. It's called commerce, and it's what makes the world go 'round. Right or wrong, makes no matter. It's going on every day and will continue irregardless of whether we choose (as consumers) to buy replica kits or not.

Either way....spend your money as you please, but just keep these facts in mind when you consider criticizing someone because they made a choice to purchase something that's not original.

I'm just sayin'.

AdamX · 07-30-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by happytheman

Ok..I'm going to put my opinion in here just so's it can be shared. Keep in mind, that this is merely an opinion.

I personally do not see any issues with companies here in the states reproducing items that originated elsewhere. This activity has been going on for a long time, and not just here in the states. Asian countries copy American products ALL THE TIME. Back in the 60's and 70's Japanese-produced copies of Gibson and Fender were pretty prevalent. Hell, the top items copied today that were originally made in the states include toys, jewelry, watches, pharmaceuticals, clothing, shoes, electronics, handbags and etc. It's called commerce, and it's what makes the world go 'round. Right or wrong, makes no matter. It's going on every day and will continue irregardless of whether we choose (as consumers) to buy replica kits or not.

Either way....spend your money as you please, but just keep these facts in mind when you consider criticizing someone because they made a choice to purchase something that's not original.

I'm just sayin'.

well said..

Isamu · 07-30-2011, 09:28 PM

true, but when you support replica makers... you end up hurting the community because the original manufacturers loose out... alot of money wasted on R&D. all because they don't make the money back.. which in turn means they won't make more parts for the cloners to clone

Mike · 07-31-2011, 09:46 AM

To me, buying replica stuff is the same as buying stolen items from a pawn shop. Its still theft (of intellectual property in the case of replicas), and you are still saving money in both cases.

DannyGT · 08-04-2011, 10:57 PM

Like another poster here stated...JDM isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. I for one had not 1 but 2 cars with complete (REAL) JDM kits and the fit was just OK. Nothing special...it always needed to have the average body prep done from the shop. Then you come across a company like Shine or others that take the original and get the fitment even better, with about equal quality, what are people supposed to do???

I can certainly appreciate both sides of this, really I do...but let’s take the America vs. Japan thing out of here and take a step back and look at the copy cat of the world, CHINA...let’s talk about how EVERYTHING IS A KIRF there. I just came back from Shenzhen (why I’ve been mia for so long) and its kind-of disgusting...but you know what? Just like here there are a few that go above and beyond in actually putting real quality behind a replica and it happens to be just as good or in some cases (I'm in technology) better!

I think that’s what’s happening here...If it quacks and walks like a duck, it’s a ******* duck. Other than freight (which is what people should be concentrating on) none of these kits for sub-40k cars are worth 10k. Where is the Aero/wind tunnel testing, where is the OEM grade paper work that goes into proving this will be beneficial to the car? Wake up people...Everything is about good marketing. That's a fact!

So in closing, I don’t give a ****. It’s a Z; enjoy the car for what it is and if spending more on perf outweighs paying for a crazy cool JDM kit, good...do it, who cares. If you want to be a show-queen and light up the eyes of all the kiddies wearing I <3 JDM shirts - more power to you. There is a place for both to coexist.

370Ztune · 08-05-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

Like another poster here stated...JDM isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. I for one had not 1 but 2 cars with complete (REAL) JDM kits and the fit was just OK. Nothing special...it always needed to have the average body prep done from the shop. Then you come across a company like Shine or others that take the original and get the fitment even better, with about equal quality, what are people supposed to do???

I can certainly appreciate both sides of this, really I do...but let’s take the America vs. Japan thing out of here and take a step back and look at the copy cat of the world, CHINA...let’s talk about how EVERYTHING IS A KIRF there. I just came back from Shenzhen (why I’ve been mia for so long) and its kind-of disgusting...but you know what? Just like here there are a few that go above and beyond in actually putting real quality behind a replica and it happens to be just as good or in some cases (I'm in technology) better!

I think that’s what’s happening here...If it quacks and walks like a duck, it’s a ******* duck. Other than freight (which is what people should be concentrating on) none of these kits for sub-40k cars are worth 10k. Where is the Aero/wind tunnel testing, where is the OEM grade paper work that goes into proving this will be beneficial to the car? Wake up people...Everything is about good marketing. That's a fact!

So in closing, I don’t give a ****. It’s a Z; enjoy the car for what it is and if spending more on perf outweighs paying for a crazy cool JDM kit, good...do it, who cares. If you want to be a show-queen and light up the eyes of all the kiddies wearing I <3 JDM shirts - more power to you. There is a place for both to coexist.

I think the issue is getting clouded; it's not JDM versus everything, it's about real versus knock-off. Copying someone else's hard work and making money off it, thus hurting their business is just plain wrong. People can bring up analogies from other industries regarding copies, but honestly, they're not relevant in the aftermarket parts industry. Revenues are too just low for these companies, due to the size of the enthusiast base.

Isamu · 08-05-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Ztune

I think the issue is getting clouded; it's not JDM versus everything, it's about real versus knock-off. Copying someone else's hard work and making money off it, thus hurting their business is just plain wrong. People can bring up analogies from other industries regarding copies, but honestly, they're not relevant in the aftermarket parts industry. Revenues are too just low for these companies, due to the size of the enthusiast base.

repped

lostsouled · 08-10-2011, 12:00 AM

so how do u guys feel about the fact that some of these replica builders are american based? in other words we buy their product, put money in their pocket.... which in turn puts money into OUR economy? just curious.... (this was an arguement someone used on me recently)

Astrosfan · 08-05-2011, 10:22 AM

i havent read all 4 pages bc im lazy but everytime i think of cheap bodykits, i think of those 5-6yr old cars with bodykits that are afalling apart, chipping, ect... definately look cheap. Im staying with oem or high quality parts to avoid that down the road. Just my 2 cents

07-27-2011, 06:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
ZeeingAround A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,365 Drives: 3500 NVP 370Z-sold! Rep Power: 86624	wow, looks like an episode of Jersey houswives in here. you can feel the love. Hdskull said it. we are paying for their economy and they and other countries don't want to play fair with trade. I do believe we are in a debacle here ( our economy)caused in part from the rapid and mass copying that both China and Japan took part in. From the smallest of items like toys, DVDs to the largest in machine and electrical items along with So much intellectual property copied and then sold back to us. Look what it did for their economy. It is your hard earned money and you live in a free country. Spend your money to make the car the way you want. I could care less, just appreciate what we all have and can do to our cars. I love the diversity of vendors, users, and people who make a living at this that are on this site. __________________ Get some roosters for eggs and Bulls for milk . Then you will see that gender matters. Especially at milking time.

07-27-2011, 07:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 39 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 40	I'm a huge proponent of not buying replica/knock off stuff. That doesn't mean that you have to buy the high end "baller" parts, either. There's plenty of companies that make original & high quality parts without charging an arm and a leg. Agency Power makes great stuff, and it's priced fair. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

07-27-2011, 09:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Who cares? <------ Not this guy !!!! __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

07-30-2011, 07:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
happytheman A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,737 Drives: MB 6M Tour/Sport Z34 Rep Power: 1823	Ok..I'm going to put my opinion in here just so's it can be shared. Keep in mind, that this is merely an opinion. I personally do not see any issues with companies here in the states reproducing items that originated elsewhere. This activity has been going on for a long time, and not just here in the states. Asian countries copy American products ALL THE TIME. Back in the 60's and 70's Japanese-produced copies of Gibson and Fender were pretty prevalent. Hell, the top items copied today that were originally made in the states include toys, jewelry, watches, pharmaceuticals, clothing, shoes, electronics, handbags and etc. It's called commerce, and it's what makes the world go 'round. Right or wrong, makes no matter. It's going on every day and will continue irregardless of whether we choose (as consumers) to buy replica kits or not. Either way....spend your money as you please, but just keep these facts in mind when you consider criticizing someone because they made a choice to purchase something that's not original. I'm just sayin'. __________________ --Brantly-- *PowderCoating by Mike/Stillen/PWJDM/Shine Auto/NST* GTR/Michelin /Fast Intentions/Evo-R/Mobil 1/Motul/Z1 https://facebook.com/CentralFloridaZClub

07-31-2011, 09:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	To me, buying replica stuff is the same as buying stolen items from a pawn shop. Its still theft (of intellectual property in the case of replicas), and you are still saving money in both cases. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

08-04-2011, 10:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 280	Like another poster here stated...JDM isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. I for one had not 1 but 2 cars with complete (REAL) JDM kits and the fit was just OK. Nothing special...it always needed to have the average body prep done from the shop. Then you come across a company like Shine or others that take the original and get the fitment even better, with about equal quality, what are people supposed to do??? I can certainly appreciate both sides of this, really I do...but let’s take the America vs. Japan thing out of here and take a step back and look at the copy cat of the world, CHINA...let’s talk about how EVERYTHING IS A KIRF there. I just came back from Shenzhen (why I’ve been mia for so long) and its kind-of disgusting...but you know what? Just like here there are a few that go above and beyond in actually putting real quality behind a replica and it happens to be just as good or in some cases (I'm in technology) better! I think that’s what’s happening here...If it quacks and walks like a duck, it’s a ***** duck. Other than freight (which is what people should be concentrating on) none of these kits for sub-40k cars are worth 10k. Where is the Aero/wind tunnel testing, where is the OEM grade paper work that goes into proving this will be beneficial to the car? Wake up people...Everything is about good marketing. That's a fact! So in closing, I don’t give a . It’s a Z; enjoy the car for what it is and if spending more on perf outweighs paying for a crazy cool JDM kit, good...do it, who cares. If you want to be a show-queen and light up the eyes of all the kiddies wearing I <3 JDM shirts - more power to you. There is a place for both to coexist. __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)** Last edited by DannyGT; 08-04-2011 at 10:59 PM.

08-10-2011, 12:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
lostsouled Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: austin Posts: 9 Drives: 09 370z pw Rep Power: 15	so how do u guys feel about the fact that some of these replica builders are american based? in other words we buy their product, put money in their pocket.... which in turn puts money into OUR economy? just curious.... (this was an arguement someone used on me recently) __________________ Am i not merciful??!!

08-05-2011, 10:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 16	i havent read all 4 pages bc im lazy but everytime i think of cheap bodykits, i think of those 5-6yr old cars with bodykits that are afalling apart, chipping, ect... definately look cheap. Im staying with oem or high quality parts to avoid that down the road. Just my 2 cents

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