Replica body Kit?

G37sHKS · 07-23-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Yah but coming from a guy that cant make up his mind doing all the different faux (or watever) kits, vinyls, and paints I'm saving hell of a lot more money on buying just the originals I wanted for my car and keeping them. And I can bet you that my car runs better than yours like how a real Z was meant to be. Not just a pinup girl.

Main issue with you is you seem to lack focus and spend on all kinds of stuff that can probably buy a second Z or a higher performance car. That's a much bigger waste of money to me.

but it is entertaining to watch how your car transforms.

how lame

Do you even know whats installed in his car to say your stock car rides better than his modified car??

Docaam lives beside me and i rode his car once, this car that you were saying its a pinup girl will attract girls more than you can imagine.

You wanna buy JDM body kit? then go ahead and have fun while speeding lower than 30 MPH because you will be scared as hell from accidents because of your "JDM" body kit that cost 10k dollars.. one small accident and say bye bye to your 10k.

oh and btw there is a story behind his wrap and repainting his car. so next time dont judge before you can afford what he bought for his car

now

and get me my coffe

tabrams31 · 07-23-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS

how lame

Do you even know whats installed in his car to say your stock car rides better than his modified car??

Docaam lives beside me and i ride his car once, this car that you were saying its a pinup girl will attract girls more than you can imagine.

You wanna buy JDM body kit? then go ahead and have fun while speeding lower than 30 MPH because you will be scared as hell from accidents because of your "JDM" body kit that cost 10k dollars.. one small accident and say bye bye to your 10k.

oh and btw there is a story behind his wrap and repainting his car. so next
time dont judge before you can afford what he bought for his car

now

and get me my coffe

Love it!!!!!!

docaam · 07-23-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Yah but coming from a guy that cant make up his mind doing all the different faux (or watever) kits, vinyls, and paints I'm saving hell of a lot more money on buying just the originals I wanted for my car and keeping them. And I can bet you that my car runs better than yours like how a real Z was meant to be. Not just a pinup girl.

Main issue with you is you seem to lack focus and spend on all kinds of stuff that can probably buy a second Z or a higher performance car. That's a much bigger waste of money to me.

but it is entertaining to watch how your car transforms.

I don't feel like commenting on your intelligence at all.

I love doing what I'm doing specially when the jobs are sponsored

Apoc370z · 07-23-2011, 06:26 AM

Kinda bothers me when people describe replicas as 'fake', I see it as paying for what you think is worth..

Kenchan made some valid points on supporting the originals, but he did made an example of the stillen kit and the fitment issue. But I do have to agree with docaam and the others when it comes to comparing replica KITS and performance parts.

why would MOST people prefer JDM over reps? i would assume its cause of bragging rights.. the comparison between the quality of original vs rep (same material or better, better fitment and cheaper to replace) and the thought of more and more new kits are coming out is a good enough reason for me to choose the rep over the original.

exhaust/performance parts/wheels should be the original, but kits, i can do without.

kenchan · 07-23-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by docaam

I don't feel like commenting on your intelligence at all.

I love doing what I'm doing specially when the jobs are sponsored

No, I think you missed the point. I have not "wasted" (your words) any money on any of my original JDM bits. Your comments say originals are a waste. I don't think so...especially if you want this industry to keep going. I was just flipping the coin on you to show wat others feel about modding a car...especially one that drives well in stock form.

Your sponsorship explains why you make such comments but I know you have original installs on your car too from looking at the picts. My comments are unbiased from sponsorship. I'm just stating wat I feel about fakes and comments against 'wasting money buying the originals,' that's all. To me redoing things over and over is a big waste of time so watching you do wat you love trial and error is fun. I think you and your sponsors put in a lot of effort into your car.

TypeOne · 07-23-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Cant afford it, don't buy it or work harder and make the income you need to achieve your goal. You faux buyers lack ambition and buy shortcuts at the expense of the true designers.

. Well, just voicing my thoughts.

Once again... the hard truth of the world we live in. If people didn't buy them, they wouldn't exist. Plain and simple.

I guess buying the legitimate authentic part deal means a little more to some people than it does to others. To whoever mentioned something about the Zele body kit... just wait... I'm sure it's coming.

KamiSpeed · 07-23-2011, 11:42 AM

The reason companies like Zele and Amuse refuse to meet American customers half way is because they're doing perfectly fine in Japanese markets at their current price and have no major interests to sell stateside aside from the few guys who buy (and they figure it'll likely be less replicated since its more expensive to buy). Even so the US standard is based off price, while the Japanese one is based off quality, meaning that a cheaper product usually beats out a quality one here. I understand fitment could be improved in replicas, but have they been tested? idk so I can't say. All I do know is that Japanese companies usually test their products with race teams... as feedback comes in they tweek and add on to their design.

So what am I saying? Well I don't hate on ppl who buy replica or companies that make replica, to each their own. I just don't understand ppl who complain about not having enough options stateside when Japanese companies are basically afraid to sell here. It'd be great if American companies started making their own parts... but once again why go into business making original when its much easier and cheaper to make replica? Haha unfortunately its a cycle that will probably never end... not because of replica companies but because of the market itself. I obviously support the Japanese side of things, but after all these years of the same issue I've learned to not fight it haha.

kenchan · 07-23-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KamiSpeed

The reason companies like Zele and Amuse refuse to meet American customers half way is because they're doing perfectly fine in Japanese markets at their current price and have no major interests to sell stateside aside from the few guys who buy (and they figure it'll likely be less replicated since its more expensive to buy). Even so the US standard is based off price, while the Japanese one is based off quality, meaning that a cheaper product usually beats out a quality one here. I understand fitment could be improved in replicas, but have they been tested? idk so I can't say. All I do know is that Japanese companies usually test their products with race teams... as feedback comes in they tweek and add on to their design.

So what am I saying? Well I don't hate on ppl who buy replica or companies that make replica, to each their own. I just don't understand ppl who complain about not having enough options stateside when Japanese companies are basically afraid to sell here. It'd be great if American companies started making their own parts... but once again why go into business making original when its much easier and cheaper to make replica? Haha unfortunately its a cycle that will probably never end... not because of replica companies but because of the market itself. I obviously support the Japanese side of things, but after all these years of the same issue I've learned to not fight it haha.

This is a good post. JDM is JDM. They don't really care about the outside and I think this is very true...can be said about a lot of smaller j-companies. they are doing fine without our business. Does make one look silly defending them... I'm just voicing my opinion on supporting original designers regardless of JDM or origin.

nuTinmuch · 07-23-2011, 12:24 PM

I've got to side with Kenchan on this one.

I'm certainly not a fan of most JDM products. I think they are overpriced and that they aren't really worth the money. With that said, I really don't like replicas. No matter how you want to dress it up, it is someone copying and profiting off the R&D of another company.

I understand why certain companies make replicas, but I honestly can't help but shake my head at them. They are profiting off someone else's work, and that's all there is to it.

Shadowx2x · 07-23-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

I've got to side with Kenchan on this one.

I'm certainly not a fan of most JDM products. I think they are overpriced and that they aren't really worth the money. With that said, I really don't like replicas. No matter how you want to dress it up, it is someone copying and profiting off the R&D of another company.

I understand why certain companies make replicas, but I honestly can't help but shake my head at them. They are profiting off someone else's work, and that's all there is to it.

tabrams31 · 07-24-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowx2x

At the end of the day - It's a Fiberglass Body kit... Just a body kit.. Too funny reading everyone's post on how passionate they are to have "Real" JDM body kits!!

I'm guessing everyone that has the "Real" JDM body kit - goes around telling everyone that it's real too..

Again guys - we are talking about a body kit!!! Spend your money on JDM wheels so your don't die in your car going over a pot hole. And JDM performance parts so your engine does not blow up! And if you want spend your $$ on real JDM body kits then do so - but don't think you are cool or your helping some kind of cause by doing so.. IT'S A BODY KIT!!!!

nuTinmuch · 07-24-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tabrams31

At the end of the day - It's a Fiberglass Body kit... Just a body kit.. Too funny reading everyone's post on how passionate they are to have "Real" JDM body kits!!

I'm guessing everyone that has the "Real" JDM body kit - goes around telling everyone that it's real too..

Again guys - we are talking about a body kit!!! Spend your money on JDM wheels so your don't die in your car going over a pot hole. And JDM performance parts so your engine does not blow up! And if you want spend your $$ on real JDM body kits then do so - but don't think you are cool or your helping some kind of cause by doing so.. IT'S A BODY KIT!!!!

What does it matter if it is "just a body kit"?

I'm not talking about the quality of the piece. I'm talking about the creativity and design sense it took to make it. There's nothing stopping any of these replica companies from making their own kits -- but they don't. They rip the design of someone else.

gaveup · 07-27-2011, 05:01 PM

Personally, I see nothing wrong with buying replicas. Not for engine components, but anything visual, it's fair game. If product A is JDM and $1600 shipped to my door and product B is a replica with the same fit and finish for $600 shipped to my door, it's going to be hard for me (personally) to not buy the replica and pocket $1000 for other mods.

Importing JDM anything is a complete ripoff for the product you are buying. I don't care how anyone wants to justify it, it's overpriced. If there wasn't a demand for these replica kits, there wouldn't be replica kits. Not everyone want's to pay $800 for a lip..but they see no problem paying $250 for it.

ZeeingAround · 07-27-2011, 06:47 PM

wow, looks like an episode of Jersey houswives in here. you can feel the love.

Hdskull said it. we are paying for their economy and they and other countries don't want to play fair with trade. I do believe we are in a debacle here ( our economy)caused in part from the rapid and mass copying that both China and Japan took part in. From the smallest of items like toys, DVDs to the largest in machine and electrical items along with So much intellectual property copied and then sold back to us. Look what it did for their economy.
It is your hard earned money and you live in a free country. Spend your money to make the car the way you want. I could care less, just appreciate what we all have and can do to our cars. I love the diversity of vendors, users, and people who make a living at this that are on this site.

vividracing · 07-27-2011, 07:12 PM

I'm a huge proponent of not buying replica/knock off stuff. That doesn't mean that you have to buy the high end "baller" parts, either. There's plenty of companies that make original & high quality parts without charging an arm and a leg. Agency Power makes great stuff, and it's priced fair.

07-23-2011, 11:42 AM	#37 (permalink)
KamiSpeed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,888 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 25	The reason companies like Zele and Amuse refuse to meet American customers half way is because they're doing perfectly fine in Japanese markets at their current price and have no major interests to sell stateside aside from the few guys who buy (and they figure it'll likely be less replicated since its more expensive to buy). Even so the US standard is based off price, while the Japanese one is based off quality, meaning that a cheaper product usually beats out a quality one here. I understand fitment could be improved in replicas, but have they been tested? idk so I can't say. All I do know is that Japanese companies usually test their products with race teams... as feedback comes in they tweek and add on to their design. So what am I saying? Well I don't hate on ppl who buy replica or companies that make replica, to each their own. I just don't understand ppl who complain about not having enough options stateside when Japanese companies are basically afraid to sell here. It'd be great if American companies started making their own parts... but once again why go into business making original when its much easier and cheaper to make replica? Haha unfortunately its a cycle that will probably never end... not because of replica companies but because of the market itself. I obviously support the Japanese side of things, but after all these years of the same issue I've learned to not fight it haha. __________________ KAMISPEED \| SHOP 370Z PERFORMANCE PARTS & MODS \| SUPPORT@KAMISPEED.COM KAMI SPEED REVIEWS \| FINANCE YOUR PARTS WITH US \| MILITARY & FIRST RESPONDERS PRE-ORDER DEPOSIT PROGRAM \| HKS MASTER SELLER

07-23-2011, 12:24 PM	#39 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 17	I've got to side with Kenchan on this one. I'm certainly not a fan of most JDM products. I think they are overpriced and that they aren't really worth the money. With that said, I really don't like replicas. No matter how you want to dress it up, it is someone copying and profiting off the R&D of another company. I understand why certain companies make replicas, but I honestly can't help but shake my head at them. They are profiting off someone else's work, and that's all there is to it. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

07-27-2011, 05:01 PM	#43 (permalink)
gaveup Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tamarac FL Posts: 324 Drives: 10 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 180	Personally, I see nothing wrong with buying replicas. Not for engine components, but anything visual, it's fair game. If product A is JDM and $1600 shipped to my door and product B is a replica with the same fit and finish for $600 shipped to my door, it's going to be hard for me (personally) to not buy the replica and pocket $1000 for other mods. Importing JDM anything is a complete ripoff for the product you are buying. I don't care how anyone wants to justify it, it's overpriced. If there wasn't a demand for these replica kits, there wouldn't be replica kits. Not everyone want's to pay $800 for a lip..but they see no problem paying $250 for it. __________________ 2010 Magnetic Black Metallic 370Z 6M stillen gen 3 CAI - topspeed test pipes - invidia gemini CBE - UpRev tune 301whp (HP Logic Mustang Dyno)

07-27-2011, 06:47 PM	#44 (permalink)
ZeeingAround A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,365 Drives: 3500 NVP 370Z-sold! Rep Power: 86623	wow, looks like an episode of Jersey houswives in here. you can feel the love. Hdskull said it. we are paying for their economy and they and other countries don't want to play fair with trade. I do believe we are in a debacle here ( our economy)caused in part from the rapid and mass copying that both China and Japan took part in. From the smallest of items like toys, DVDs to the largest in machine and electrical items along with So much intellectual property copied and then sold back to us. Look what it did for their economy. It is your hard earned money and you live in a free country. Spend your money to make the car the way you want. I could care less, just appreciate what we all have and can do to our cars. I love the diversity of vendors, users, and people who make a living at this that are on this site. __________________ Get some roosters for eggs and Bulls for milk . Then you will see that gender matters. Especially at milking time.

07-27-2011, 07:12 PM	#45 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	I'm a huge proponent of not buying replica/knock off stuff. That doesn't mean that you have to buy the high end "baller" parts, either. There's plenty of companies that make original & high quality parts without charging an arm and a leg. Agency Power makes great stuff, and it's priced fair. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

07-23-2011, 06:26 AM	#34 (permalink)
Apoc370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,001 Drives: 2011 GM z34 Rep Power: 16	Kinda bothers me when people describe replicas as 'fake', I see it as paying for what you think is worth.. Kenchan made some valid points on supporting the originals, but he did made an example of the stillen kit and the fitment issue. But I do have to agree with docaam and the others when it comes to comparing replica KITS and performance parts. why would MOST people prefer JDM over reps? i would assume its cause of bragging rights.. the comparison between the quality of original vs rep (same material or better, better fitment and cheaper to replace) and the thought of more and more new kits are coming out is a good enough reason for me to choose the rep over the original. exhaust/performance parts/wheels should be the original, but kits, i can do without.

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