Show Us Your Roll Bar

synolimit · 08-06-2015, 04:00 PM

Nice but the rear mounting doesn't make sense. The fender well isn't exactly a strong point. Going to the upper tower would of been safer and better. Every Z cage I've seen goes there.

Hotrodz · 08-06-2015, 05:00 PM

Yo dude, this picture is from someone's album and was posted in 2011...why is this relavent to the conversation at hand?

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synolimit · 08-06-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Yo dude, this picture is from someone's album and was posted in 2011...why is this relavent to the conversation at hand?

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Bacause safety is relevant! Selling a cage stating its fully legal without testing and being different than every other cage built by professionals should bring up a red flag. I'm all for it but state a big warning disclosure. To me this isn't race worthy. God forbid someone get hurt. Mounting points to thin sheet metal even with a wide base won't last when it's your life in a roll over. The towers have 2 layers of the same thin metal (1 layer is the fender), plus a layer 3-4 times thicker, plus the same thick *** metal as a reenforcement bracket holding the tower to the frame! For the love of god look how thin that fender metal is! If a car rolled over and slide and the roof collapses and the roll bar catches that fender won't hold from keeping the main hood upright. Those mounts will punch right through like a knife through butter. Hell I can push my tinsnips through there and start cutting it out. The tower however is actual frame that you can see is almost 1/8" thick based on the bracket shown. I'm not dissing the builder. It just needs adjusted slightly higher to the tower is all. Simple simple fix.

TerribleONE · 08-06-2015, 05:03 PM

Its also clearly a custom full cage. Big difference.

synolimit · 08-06-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Its also clearly a custom full cage. Big difference.

Lol here's shovelmans build...guess where the main support hoops go? The towers. Anyone remember Spohn? Guess what? Tower.

synolimit · 08-06-2015, 08:48 PM

Spohn

synolimit · 08-06-2015, 08:48 PM

Mike

synolimit · 08-06-2015, 08:49 PM

Doran for crying out loud and I believe the RC race car comes from Nissan with the cage already installed for $150,000! Show of hands who's smarter than a Nissan engineer?

GaleForce · 08-06-2015, 09:18 PM

You're talking about two totally different categories of people. Yes, the bar you're showing is very safe, well engineered, and probably four times the price. People looking this thread are not interested in spending that kind of money otherwise they wouldn't be looking at this thread.

This has turned into a thread about the RPM cages. People interested in these cages are more than likely comparing them to a harness bar. If you had a choice between a harness bar and the RPM cage, which would you rather have?

I'll bet you would take the RPM cage.

Dcocci · 08-06-2015, 09:50 PM

Hmmmm sounds like they stand by their product. I'm not going to argue over whether a custom built cage is safer than a bolt in cage, however if these guys can say "it will pass inspection or we'll give you your money back", that's a good starting point no? These look way safer than some of the garbage you see from china or japan.

Hotrodz · 08-06-2015, 09:50 PM

This and my intent was that others who had roll bars would post up and tell us about them, custom or otherwise. I think the reason no one has is because many are what you have posted, custom builds for straight up race cars. What many folks here are looking for is a reasonably price bolt on that would meet the standards of the sanctioning racing organization and/or would be useful for spirited driving. My assumption is that RPM is really the only one building a bolt on rollbar for our platform.

synolimit · 08-06-2015, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce

You're talking about two totally different categories of people. Yes, the bar you're showing is very safe, well engineered, and probably four times the price. People looking this thread are not interested in spending that kind of money otherwise they wouldn't be looking at this thread.

This has turned into a thread about the RPM cages. People interested in these cages are more than likely comparing them to a harness bar. If you had a choice between a harness bar and the RPM cage, which would you rather have?

I'll bet you would take the RPM cage.

yes the first one is prob $3-4k but the others are in the $1000-1500 range. all im simply saying is make sure you say "its bolted to an unsafe, non-structural location" or just simply move the mount up a tad haha.

id rather bolt my belt to the cage, you're correct.

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Originally Posted by Dcocci

Hmmmm sounds like they stand by their product. I'm not going to argue over whether a custom built cage is safer than a bolt in cage, however if these guys can say "it will pass inspection or we'll give you your money back", that's a good starting point no? These look way safer than some of the garbage you see from china or japan.

i think bolt in is plenty safe. thats why SCCA and NASA allow them. but they must bolt to the correct spots. ill have to read up on the SCCA hand book. i do believe they tell you where to go and how.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

This and my intent was that others who had roll bars would post up and tell us about them, custom or otherwise. I think the reason no one has is because many are what you have posted, custom builds for straight up race cars. What many folks here are looking for is a reasonably price bolt on that would meet the standards of the sanctioning racing organization and/or would be useful for spirited driving. My assumption is that RPM is really the only one building a bolt on rollbar for our platform.

i agree. but i think the rear ones i showed like shovel, spohn and mike are just for street and HPDE days and only a little better than the RPM. i wouldnt call them race cars like Doran or the first one. ive said my piece, just want everyone to be aware and be safe.

critical · 08-06-2015, 10:07 PM

how much was the cage?

Hotrodz · 08-06-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by critical

how much was the cage?

I don't know, they are waiting on the approval to be a vendor before they post.

Hotrodz · 08-06-2015, 11:13 PM

No worries man, I'm not knocking your opinion regarding the safety of the roll bars that you have posted but none of those individuals have weighed in, or are on the forum, or willing to provide information on their design. One thing is for sure, is that if someone post up a roll bar or full cage, they will get scrutinized and the opinions on safety abound. Not a bad thing, just a thing...my only aim is to provide information about the bar I have and RPM I reached out to RPM simply to clarify a couple of questions that I had received from interested members and after speaking with Dave he wanted to provide those interested members the opportunity to purchase his product.

That will all be done in separate thread for sure.

08-06-2015, 05:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Yo dude, this picture is from someone's album and was posted in 2011...why is this relavent to the conversation at hand? Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

08-06-2015, 05:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5851	Its also clearly a custom full cage. Big difference. GaleForce and Hotrodz like this. __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

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GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	You're talking about two totally different categories of people. Yes, the bar you're showing is very safe, well engineered, and probably four times the price. People looking this thread are not interested in spending that kind of money otherwise they wouldn't be looking at this thread. This has turned into a thread about the RPM cages. People interested in these cages are more than likely comparing them to a harness bar. If you had a choice between a harness bar and the RPM cage, which would you rather have? I'll bet you would take the RPM cage. TerribleONE, Hotrodz, kukpet and 1 others like this. __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

08-06-2015, 09:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dcocci Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 215 Drives: 2014 370z black 6spd Rep Power: 11	Hmmmm sounds like they stand by their product. I'm not going to argue over whether a custom built cage is safer than a bolt in cage, however if these guys can say "it will pass inspection or we'll give you your money back", that's a good starting point no? These look way safer than some of the garbage you see from china or japan. GaleForce and Hotrodz like this. __________________ -08 Porsche Cayman S

08-06-2015, 09:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	This and my intent was that others who had roll bars would post up and tell us about them, custom or otherwise. I think the reason no one has is because many are what you have posted, custom builds for straight up race cars. What many folks here are looking for is a reasonably price bolt on that would meet the standards of the sanctioning racing organization and/or would be useful for spirited driving. My assumption is that RPM is really the only one building a bolt on rollbar for our platform. GaleForce and kukpet like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

08-06-2015, 10:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
critical A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington Posts: 1,252 Drives: 09' 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	how much was the cage? __________________ Quaife w/ gears \|Stillen Gen 3\|SOLD FI Resonated Test Pipes \|SOLD FI 18'' \| 25row Stillen Race \| Progress 35mm/25mm sways \| Swifts/Koni\|Volk G25's\| Stoptech SS lines\|\|SPL Front/Rear Arms\|

08-06-2015, 11:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	No worries man, I'm not knocking your opinion regarding the safety of the roll bars that you have posted but none of those individuals have weighed in, or are on the forum, or willing to provide information on their design. One thing is for sure, is that if someone post up a roll bar or full cage, they will get scrutinized and the opinions on safety abound. Not a bad thing, just a thing...my only aim is to provide information about the bar I have and RPM I reached out to RPM simply to clarify a couple of questions that I had received from interested members and after speaking with Dave he wanted to provide those interested members the opportunity to purchase his product. That will all be done in separate thread for sure. kukpet likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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