Went from 7AT to 6MT

H2O_Doc · 10-16-2013, 07:37 PM

Just a few brief observations because the differences are often a topic of discussion or are a source of questions. Also, if anyone can confirm my impressions, please comment?

I went from a 7AT Sport to a 6MT Sport (2012 to 2014) so a reasonable basis for comparison. My impressions are that the 7AT seems like it would be quicker in a quarter mile (or would likely be for many drivers). Although I haven't tached it up yet (break in period), the 7AT seems MUCH easier to get off the line; it also shifts quickly after launch and I just think it would give up a car length or more.

Where it seems like the 6MT would shine is on a circuit or road course. The rev match is great and the ability to be in the right gear exiting a turn seems like something the 7AT can't match, even with flappy paddles (although they'd help).

If you commute in stop and go traffic, you might be happier with a 7AT, although I don't mind an MT in traffic, an especially not the 370Z 6MT.

The clutch and tightness of the gearbox on the 6MT are an absolute joy. Giggle factor clearly favors the 6MT. Having said that, the 7AT is the most enjoyable auto I have ever owned and it ISNT a less manly alternative to the 6MT; it is solid and enjoyable and reasonable minds could pick it above the 6MT.

Thanks for any thoughts,

megalapagas · 10-16-2013, 08:02 PM

I drive a 7AT and I'm proud to own it hahaha just thought it be funny

, nice observation OP it should be helpful to some ppl that might want to change from auto to MT.

DEpointfive0 · 10-16-2013, 08:13 PM

Great observations!

The biggest disadvantage to me is the skip shifting, which you really can't modulate like you do with the 6MT

Chuck33079 · 10-16-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Great observations!

The biggest disadvantage to me is the skip shifting, which you really can't modulate like you do with the 6MT

The other disadvantage is the fact it can't take big power like the 6mt can. It gets pricey to beef up the 7at. All you need for the manual is a clutch and CSC.

DEpointfive0 · 10-16-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The other disadvantage is the fact it can't take big power like the 6mt can. It gets pricey to beef up the 7at. All you need for the manual is a clutch and CSC.

Lol, I said TO ME DAMMIT!!! Not you fancy FI people

megalapagas · 10-16-2013, 08:36 PM

Either way chuck has a point, there's a point in time when we 7AT are limited to power and to beef up our vehicles will be pricy lol

Chuck33079 · 10-16-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, I said TO ME DAMMIT!!! Not you fancy FI people

Like you wouldn't do it in a heartbeat if it didnt require a fortune in tranny upgrades.

critical · 10-16-2013, 08:47 PM

i think staying out of boost in 6/7 and maybe even 5th gear and having a tranny cooler the 7at can handle a decent amount of power.

DEpointfive0 · 10-16-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Like you wouldn't do it in a heartbeat if it didnt require a fortune in tranny upgrades.

I don't like the investment cost of FI or the risk in it for higher problems, not just the tranny upgrades.

But PLEASE let's not this turn into a standard 6MT vs 7AT war (not talking to you Chuck)... But we have enough of those threads

Chuck33079 · 10-16-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

But PLEASE let's not this turn into a standard 6MT vs 7AT war (not talking to you Chuck)... But we have enough of those threads

Like there's any chance this thread doesn't turn in to one of those lol.

DEpointfive0 · 10-16-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Like there's any chance this thread doesn't turn in to one of those lol.

True......... Fml/

H2O_Doc · 10-16-2013, 09:25 PM

No worries. If this turns into a "mine is better than yours ya big sissy" thread, I'll bust out one of my lectures on aquatic bio-films and their role in breaking down dead stuff and cycling nutrients. That's right, one misstep by you folks and you will be punished by me talking about pond scum and, remember, I turned that sh@#t into a dissertation.

Now back to your regularly scheduled (and friendly) tranny* talk.

*by tranny talk, I don't mean a woman that got an addidictome.

SS_Firehawk · 10-16-2013, 09:43 PM

So about this dissertation...

MT is better! Okay, now about that pond scum?

1slow370 · 10-16-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

*by tranny talk, I don't mean a woman that got an addidictome.

What about a dude that got a cockectomy? Another difference is that the automatic doesn't have the pure liquid failsauce that is nissan synchro's

10-16-2013, 07:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
H2O_Doc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,083 Drives: '14 370Z, '12 4Runr Rep Power: 14	Went from 7AT to 6MT Just a few brief observations because the differences are often a topic of discussion or are a source of questions. Also, if anyone can confirm my impressions, please comment? I went from a 7AT Sport to a 6MT Sport (2012 to 2014) so a reasonable basis for comparison. My impressions are that the 7AT seems like it would be quicker in a quarter mile (or would likely be for many drivers). Although I haven't tached it up yet (break in period), the 7AT seems MUCH easier to get off the line; it also shifts quickly after launch and I just think it would give up a car length or more. Where it seems like the 6MT would shine is on a circuit or road course. The rev match is great and the ability to be in the right gear exiting a turn seems like something the 7AT can't match, even with flappy paddles (although they'd help). If you commute in stop and go traffic, you might be happier with a 7AT, although I don't mind an MT in traffic, an especially not the 370Z 6MT. The clutch and tightness of the gearbox on the 6MT are an absolute joy. Giggle factor clearly favors the 6MT. Having said that, the 7AT is the most enjoyable auto I have ever owned and it ISNT a less manly alternative to the 6MT; it is solid and enjoyable and reasonable minds could pick it above the 6MT. Thanks for any thoughts, jae35 and critical like this.

10-16-2013, 08:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
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DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Great observations! The biggest disadvantage to me is the skip shifting, which you really can't modulate like you do with the 6MT critical and Wonka2581 like this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

10-16-2013, 08:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
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10-16-2013, 08:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
critical A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington Posts: 1,252 Drives: 09' 370z 7AT Rep Power: 15	i think staying out of boost in 6/7 and maybe even 5th gear and having a tranny cooler the 7at can handle a decent amount of power. __________________ Quaife w/ gears \|Stillen Gen 3\|SOLD FI Resonated Test Pipes \|SOLD FI 18'' \| 25row Stillen Race \| Progress 35mm/25mm sways \| Swifts/Koni\|Volk G25's\| Stoptech SS lines\|\|SPL Front/Rear Arms\|

10-16-2013, 09:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
H2O_Doc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,083 Drives: '14 370Z, '12 4Runr Rep Power: 14	No worries. If this turns into a "mine is better than yours ya big sissy" thread, I'll bust out one of my lectures on aquatic bio-films and their role in breaking down dead stuff and cycling nutrients. That's right, one misstep by you folks and you will be punished by me talking about pond scum and, remember, I turned that sh@#t into a dissertation. Now back to your regularly scheduled (and friendly) tranny* talk. *by tranny talk, I don't mean a woman that got an addidictome. Running4Mayor likes this.

10-16-2013, 09:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	So about this dissertation... MT is better! Okay, now about that pond scum? __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction