Oil Temperatures ?

Kliment · 08-25-2013, 11:52 PM

Well I thought since it would be a simple yes or no question would save me time thus why I asked it here.

gussyturbo z · 08-26-2013, 06:37 AM

Who sells the best oil pan spacer?

roy'sz · 08-26-2013, 06:51 AM

Then the answer is no it won't void out your warranty, they have to prove that the cooler was the cause behind the failure of your car. Z1's kit is far superior than the nissans, I have first hand experience with this due to the fact that I had the kit goodwilled to me from coporate because I complained how hot the oil was from the start of my purchase. I retrofitted my kit with z1 hoses and a thermostatic adapter so that I could have some means of cooling.

I'm not sure what island it is that you reside on, you won't need the 34 row cooler maybe not even the 25. You should in all seriousness be okay with the 19 row and it is just under $500 if im not mistaken. There are probably dozens of threads on this subject that you can read about before your purchase if you so choose do to that. Maybe you want to go with ae since it is a horizontally based cooler...I don't know but atleast if you search you can get yourself some information on what options are out there

onzedge · 08-26-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z

Who sells the best oil pan spacer?

Jim Wolf Technology does. By the way, two different Nissan management -types (both knowledgeable and trustworthy) have told me that the oil pan spacer will cause warranty issues.

IDZRVIT · 08-26-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

.........the oil pan spacer will cause warranty issues.............

.....if it is related to a failure. Just thought I'd finish your sentence so noone starts spreading misinformation over the internet.

SouthArk370Z · 08-26-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer

What about when we reach 220 and we get some kind of limp mode where it bogs it down on launches? Is that just a myth or a defect on some of our 370Z's? When I get to 220 I notice a bad bogging off the line. I have to launch RPMs at 3K to beat a Civic.

There are many things that will cause the ECU to reduce engine power (not necessarily limp mode). (Intake Air Temp, Water Temp, and Oil Temp are three of them.) It's very possible that you are hitting one of the others. IIRC, IAT is pretty low; somewhere around 85-90 F.

It would be nice if someone would post a list of params/values where the engine starts pulling power. IIRC, the limp mode values are in the FSM but I don't remember seeing anything on "low-power mode." If it's in the FSM, please point me to the right page(s). TIA.

onzedge · 08-26-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

.....if it is related to a failure. Just thought I'd finish your sentence so noone starts spreading misinformation over the internet.

This is not misinformation as I post nothing without the facts to back it up. The issue lies in the oil pan being lowered due to the spacer. I was informed of this by (1) a service manager with whom I have been working for more than 10 years and who has professional Nissan experience in service and racing since the Datsun days and (2) a sales manager with whom I have been working for more than 5 years -- he too has experience with Nissan service, sales and racing since the Datsun days. Feel free to confirm the oil pan spacer issue.

The oil plan spacer is risky -- if you ever have an issue after installing one, the burden of proof will fall heavily on you that it was nort the culprit or at least a contributor. For the marginal and I mean VERY marginal improvement in cooling the extra quart provides, it is not worth it. Get an oil cooler.

Chuck33079 · 08-26-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

The issue lies in the oil pan being lowered due to the spacer.

That's why I won't run a spacer. Making the oil pan the lowest part of the car scares the hell out of me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

For the marginal and I mean VERY marginal improvement in cooling the extra quart provides, it is not worth it. Get an oil cooler.

Or GTM's new oil pan. It holds quite a bit more oil, and doesn't look like it sits lower than stock.

onzedge · 08-26-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That's why I won't run a spacer. Making the oil pan the lowest part of the car scares the hell out of me.

Or GTM's new oil pan. It holds quite a bit more oil, and doesn't look like it sits lower than stock.

Kliment · 08-26-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz

Then the answer is no it won't void out your warranty, they have to prove that the cooler was the cause behind the failure of your car. Z1's kit is far superior than the nissans, I have first hand experience with this due to the fact that I had the kit goodwilled to me from coporate because I complained how hot the oil was from the start of my purchase. I retrofitted my kit with z1 hoses and a thermostatic adapter so that I could have some means of cooling.

I'm not sure what island it is that you reside on, you won't need the 34 row cooler maybe not even the 25. You should in all seriousness be okay with the 19 row and it is just under $500 if im not mistaken. There are probably dozens of threads on this subject that you can read about before your purchase if you so choose do to that. Maybe you want to go with ae since it is a horizontally based cooler...I don't know but atleast if you search you can get yourself some information on what options are out there

Thanks for the info Roy, cheers.

7speed · 08-26-2013, 11:14 AM

Usually driving it doesn't go over 220 for me, if rolling hard I saw at most 230. But that was going pretty fast on a road trip.

But the other day I noticed my temp up higher than I ever seen. This was with me letting my car idle for almost an hour when I fell asleep during lunch break. I got up to almost 260.

L33T Z34 · 08-26-2013, 01:38 PM

When having fun up in the RPMs, I'm in the following range w/my Nissan Motorsports oil cooler: 90°C - 101°C. I rarely go over 90°C street driving unless it’s a 100°F+ day. OEM radiator and AmsOil Signature 5W-30 oil.

gussyturbo z · 08-26-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

thanks for the info man! i do have an oil cooler just want to keep it cooler then what it already is.

IDZRVIT · 08-26-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

This is not misinformation as I post nothing without the facts to back it up. The issue lies in the oil pan being lowered due to the spacer. I was informed of this by (1) a service manager with whom I have been working for more than 10 years and who has professional Nissan experience in service and racing since the Datsun days and (2) a sales manager with whom I have been working for more than 5 years -- he too has experience with Nissan service, sales and racing since the Datsun days. Feel free to confirm the oil pan spacer issue.

The oil plan spacer is risky -- if you ever have an issue after installing one, the burden of proof will fall heavily on you that it was nort the culprit or at least a contributor. For the marginal and I mean VERY marginal improvement in cooling the extra quart provides, it is not worth it. Get an oil cooler.

I know what you meant but others (yes, they are out there) may not.

Rusty · 08-27-2013, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gussyturbo z

Who sells the best oil pan spacer?

I have the AAM spacer. It holds about an extra quart of oil. Oil changes take 7 quarts. Thinking on going with the GTM pan later when the credit card allows me.

08-26-2013, 06:51 AM	#33 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Then the answer is no it won't void out your warranty, they have to prove that the cooler was the cause behind the failure of your car. Z1's kit is far superior than the nissans, I have first hand experience with this due to the fact that I had the kit goodwilled to me from coporate because I complained how hot the oil was from the start of my purchase. I retrofitted my kit with z1 hoses and a thermostatic adapter so that I could have some means of cooling. I'm not sure what island it is that you reside on, you won't need the 34 row cooler maybe not even the 25. You should in all seriousness be okay with the 19 row and it is just under $500 if im not mistaken. There are probably dozens of threads on this subject that you can read about before your purchase if you so choose do to that. Maybe you want to go with ae since it is a horizontally based cooler...I don't know but atleast if you search you can get yourself some information on what options are out there __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvG...data_playerARK HFC'S-ARK Grip-Stillen G3-M370-UPREV-Kinetix upper control arm-WC Latheworks-Stage2 Bad@$$ Driver(318whp/268tq)-

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7speed Track Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 697 Drives: 09 370 sports clone Rep Power: 13	Usually driving it doesn't go over 220 for me, if rolling hard I saw at most 230. But that was going pretty fast on a road trip. But the other day I noticed my temp up higher than I ever seen. This was with me letting my car idle for almost an hour when I fell asleep during lunch break. I got up to almost 260. __________________ 09 370z 6spd traded 1/12/15 for 15 Challenger RT 6spd

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L33T Z34 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ahnald, MO Age: 46 Posts: 387 Drives: 09 K51 G C Bw/S 6MT Rep Power: 0	When having fun up in the RPMs, I'm in the following range w/my Nissan Motorsports oil cooler: 90°C - 101°C. I rarely go over 90°C street driving unless it’s a 100°F+ day. OEM radiator and AmsOil Signature 5W-30 oil. Last edited by L33T Z34; 08-26-2013 at 07:04 PM.

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