Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

esfourteen · 06-13-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

when are you going to be getting more of these springs?

I'll find out tomorrow and let everyone know.

NewYorkJon34 · 06-13-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen

I'll find out tomorrow and let everyone know.

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christian370z · 06-14-2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen

I hope this helps!

That's perfect, I'm sure it is even more obvious once the assembly is seen in person. Good that's what she said btw!

svmtbman · 06-14-2011, 08:39 AM

Drove my car today for the first time since installing the spring and all I can say is WOW! It feels so much better than stock and amazingly better than without the spring installed at all. The clutch feels a lot like my S2000 did which is a good thing!

RCZ · 06-15-2011, 05:24 PM

Yeah, put mine in this morning and it feels awesome. Perfect weight.

cruzmisl · 06-16-2011, 12:39 AM

Holy ****, the bottom pin was a bear. I think I was working on it for an hour and a half.

Be really careful with the pin. I think I nicked it on the end trying to tap it out, which caused it to become out of spec and basically get stuck before I could completely get it out of the bottom spring holder piece. The top one wasn't a problem at all.

I had to drive it without a spring to my dads house (to sand the pin and bracket back to spec,) which was my first time doing so. I loved how it felt, and was immediately driving the car smoother with less effort. It felt natural. This made me more excited to get the new spring in.

After I fixed the pin and the bracket, I got it in and tested it. It still took some work to get it in. I'm not sure how some of you guys do it so fast.

Anyway, it's way better than stock and really how it should feel!

doda74 · 06-16-2011, 12:54 AM

For those who have not swapped out the spring yet, you do NOT need to remove the top pin.

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzmisl

Holy ****, the bottom pin was a bear. I think I was working on it for an hour and a half.

It's so weird on some cars the bottom pin is horrible and others it isn't. I just had this issue with chuckd05's as well, the pin did not want to go through the rivet in the bracket on the pedal without the spring assembly even in there! I would recommend using a round file or a dremel to remove some of the material in the bracket if you run into this issue.

svt to 370z · 06-16-2011, 09:37 AM

Ya I did mine yesterday took me 5 min tops. Pulled the bottom c clip dropped the spring out put the new one on and put it back in. very smooth and easy and man is it a plesant surpise! I really like how it feels and drives now. so much smoother.

NewYorkJon34 · 06-16-2011, 10:15 AM

Are there any more springs?

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Are there any more springs?

I will be getting more in 2 weeks hopefully, but I am still waiting to hear back from AK on going through with another group buy. I promise that I have added everyone to my list who has asked about the springs. I will try to get a new GB thread going ASAP.

cruzmisl · 06-16-2011, 12:03 PM

I still have a few mm of soft pedal at the top, which I'm now not sure was there before with the stock spring. It goes all the way up, but I can very easily tap it and make it move a few mm.

Is it possible something is loose now? Or am I going crazy from having to work on it for so long last night?

I'm very happy with the mod and won't go back to the stock spring, but after all that work last night I wonder if something happened. Just checking to see how it feels with other people.

RCZ · 06-16-2011, 01:12 PM

I used pliers to put mine in...took all of 2 minutes...and I had to do the top too which was so much more of a pain than the bottom...bottom one is easy.

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzmisl

I still have a few mm of soft pedal at the top, which I'm now not sure was there before with the stock spring. It goes all the way up, but I can very easily tap it and make it move a few mm.

Is it possible something is loose now? Or am I going crazy from having to work on it for so long last night?

I'm very happy with the mod and won't go back to the stock spring, but after all that work last night I wonder if something happened. Just checking to see how it feels with other people.

the soft pedal at the top is just the travel in the small spring before it hits the point where the pressure plate engages and larger spring expands, I believe it was always there but you couldn't tell the difference because of how soft the pedal was overall.

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

I used pliers to put mine in...took all of 2 minutes...and I had to do the top too which was so much more of a pain than the bottom...bottom one is easy.

it seems hit or miss, mine was extremely easy to remove the bottom pin as well, I have run into the issue 3 times now with the bottom pin.

I just installed red6spd's spring for him and the bottom pin got stuck coming out and I knew at that point I would be better off pushing it back and doing the top pin. Still took me about 10 minutes just to push the pin back in.

If you feel like the bottom pin does not want to come out easily, DONT take it out, the top pin is more difficult to get to but I have yet to encounter one that would get stuck like the bottom can.

06-14-2011, 08:39 AM	#154 (permalink)
svmtbman Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Macon, GA Age: 53 Posts: 219 Drives: 2011 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 14	Drove my car today for the first time since installing the spring and all I can say is WOW! It feels so much better than stock and amazingly better than without the spring installed at all. The clutch feels a lot like my S2000 did which is a good thing! __________________ 2011 Pearl White, Persimmon, Touring, Sport, Navigation, 6sp - PW JDM shift knob, Invidia Gemini CBE, aFe dry filters, HPS intake tubes, JDM fog light, Redline shift boot, LED interior lights, Z1 hood struts, and 30% tint.

06-16-2011, 12:54 AM	#157 (permalink)
doda74 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 72 Drives: 09 Nismo PW #308 SC Rep Power: 14	For those who have not swapped out the spring yet, you do NOT need to remove the top pin. __________________ GTM Stage 1 SC \| GTM Test Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Swift Spec-R \| Eibach Sways \| SPL Rear Traction and Camber Links \| ACT HD 6-Puck Clutch \| Fidanza 15lb Flywheel \| ZSpeed HD CSC \|RJM AFP Clutch Pedal \| Volk CE28N \| Nismo GT Ti Knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAd6s_W6ojE

06-16-2011, 10:15 AM	#160 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1064	Are there any more springs? __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

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06-15-2011, 05:24 PM	#155 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	Yeah, put mine in this morning and it feels awesome. Perfect weight.

06-16-2011, 12:39 AM	#156 (permalink)
cruzmisl Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 122 Drives: 08 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 15	Holy ****, the bottom pin was a bear. I think I was working on it for an hour and a half. Be really careful with the pin. I think I nicked it on the end trying to tap it out, which caused it to become out of spec and basically get stuck before I could completely get it out of the bottom spring holder piece. The top one wasn't a problem at all. I had to drive it without a spring to my dads house (to sand the pin and bracket back to spec,) which was my first time doing so. I loved how it felt, and was immediately driving the car smoother with less effort. It felt natural. This made me more excited to get the new spring in. After I fixed the pin and the bracket, I got it in and tested it. It still took some work to get it in. I'm not sure how some of you guys do it so fast. Anyway, it's way better than stock and really how it should feel!

06-16-2011, 09:37 AM	#159 (permalink)
svt to 370z Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: berea,oh Posts: 139 Drives: 09 red 370z 6mt Rep Power: 13	Ya I did mine yesterday took me 5 min tops. Pulled the bottom c clip dropped the spring out put the new one on and put it back in. very smooth and easy and man is it a plesant surpise! I really like how it feels and drives now. so much smoother.

06-16-2011, 12:03 PM	#162 (permalink)
cruzmisl Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 122 Drives: 08 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 15	I still have a few mm of soft pedal at the top, which I'm now not sure was there before with the stock spring. It goes all the way up, but I can very easily tap it and make it move a few mm. Is it possible something is loose now? Or am I going crazy from having to work on it for so long last night? I'm very happy with the mod and won't go back to the stock spring, but after all that work last night I wonder if something happened. Just checking to see how it feels with other people.

06-16-2011, 01:12 PM	#163 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	I used pliers to put mine in...took all of 2 minutes...and I had to do the top too which was so much more of a pain than the bottom...bottom one is easy.