Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

NewYorkJon34 · 06-13-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen

I'll find out tomorrow and let everyone know.

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christian370z · 06-14-2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen

I hope this helps!

That's perfect, I'm sure it is even more obvious once the assembly is seen in person. Good that's what she said btw!

svmtbman · 06-14-2011, 08:39 AM

Drove my car today for the first time since installing the spring and all I can say is WOW! It feels so much better than stock and amazingly better than without the spring installed at all. The clutch feels a lot like my S2000 did which is a good thing!

RCZ · 06-15-2011, 05:24 PM

Yeah, put mine in this morning and it feels awesome. Perfect weight.

cruzmisl · 06-16-2011, 12:39 AM

Holy ****, the bottom pin was a bear. I think I was working on it for an hour and a half.

Be really careful with the pin. I think I nicked it on the end trying to tap it out, which caused it to become out of spec and basically get stuck before I could completely get it out of the bottom spring holder piece. The top one wasn't a problem at all.

I had to drive it without a spring to my dads house (to sand the pin and bracket back to spec,) which was my first time doing so. I loved how it felt, and was immediately driving the car smoother with less effort. It felt natural. This made me more excited to get the new spring in.

After I fixed the pin and the bracket, I got it in and tested it. It still took some work to get it in. I'm not sure how some of you guys do it so fast.

Anyway, it's way better than stock and really how it should feel!

doda74 · 06-16-2011, 12:54 AM

For those who have not swapped out the spring yet, you do NOT need to remove the top pin.

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzmisl

Holy ****, the bottom pin was a bear. I think I was working on it for an hour and a half.

It's so weird on some cars the bottom pin is horrible and others it isn't. I just had this issue with chuckd05's as well, the pin did not want to go through the rivet in the bracket on the pedal without the spring assembly even in there! I would recommend using a round file or a dremel to remove some of the material in the bracket if you run into this issue.

svt to 370z · 06-16-2011, 09:37 AM

Ya I did mine yesterday took me 5 min tops. Pulled the bottom c clip dropped the spring out put the new one on and put it back in. very smooth and easy and man is it a plesant surpise! I really like how it feels and drives now. so much smoother.

NewYorkJon34 · 06-16-2011, 10:15 AM

Are there any more springs?

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Are there any more springs?

I will be getting more in 2 weeks hopefully, but I am still waiting to hear back from AK on going through with another group buy. I promise that I have added everyone to my list who has asked about the springs. I will try to get a new GB thread going ASAP.

RCZ · 06-16-2011, 01:12 PM

I used pliers to put mine in...took all of 2 minutes...and I had to do the top too which was so much more of a pain than the bottom...bottom one is easy.

esfourteen · 06-16-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

I used pliers to put mine in...took all of 2 minutes...and I had to do the top too which was so much more of a pain than the bottom...bottom one is easy.

it seems hit or miss, mine was extremely easy to remove the bottom pin as well, I have run into the issue 3 times now with the bottom pin.

I just installed red6spd's spring for him and the bottom pin got stuck coming out and I knew at that point I would be better off pushing it back and doing the top pin. Still took me about 10 minutes just to push the pin back in.

If you feel like the bottom pin does not want to come out easily, DONT take it out, the top pin is more difficult to get to but I have yet to encounter one that would get stuck like the bottom can.

cruzmisl · 06-16-2011, 01:22 PM

That is good advice. There really isn't any space down there to do a whole lot. If you **** it up bad enough you might even have to take the whole freakin clutch pedal assembly out.

red6spd · 06-16-2011, 02:49 PM

Just did some "spirted" driving and wow. You guys where not kidding. I can catch gears so much harder with more precision. And when just drving normal it dont look like I just started drving a stick yesterday. Thanks for busting you a** and doing the install Nick, my girl did not want to cooperate LOL

chops · 06-16-2011, 11:28 PM

just installed mine. actually took longer than i thought. after i removed the C clips, the entire assembly just fell apart so it took me a while to figure out how it went back in (wasnt paying much attention)

anywho, car is washed, quick detailed and new clutch spring installed. cant wait to drive it tomorrow. thanks again for doing this man!

06-14-2011, 08:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
svmtbman Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Macon, GA Age: 55 Posts: 219 Drives: 2011 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 16	Drove my car today for the first time since installing the spring and all I can say is WOW! It feels so much better than stock and amazingly better than without the spring installed at all. The clutch feels a lot like my S2000 did which is a good thing! __________________ 2011 Pearl White, Persimmon, Touring, Sport, Navigation, 6sp - PW JDM shift knob, Invidia Gemini CBE, aFe dry filters, HPS intake tubes, JDM fog light, Redline shift boot, LED interior lights, Z1 hood struts, and 30% tint.

06-16-2011, 12:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
doda74 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 72 Drives: 09 Nismo PW #308 SC Rep Power: 16	For those who have not swapped out the spring yet, you do NOT need to remove the top pin. __________________ GTM Stage 1 SC \| GTM Test Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Swift Spec-R \| Eibach Sways \| SPL Rear Traction and Camber Links \| ACT HD 6-Puck Clutch \| Fidanza 15lb Flywheel \| ZSpeed HD CSC \|RJM AFP Clutch Pedal \| Volk CE28N \| Nismo GT Ti Knob http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAd6s_W6ojE

06-16-2011, 10:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1066	Are there any more springs? __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

06-16-2011, 02:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 23	Just did some "spirted" driving and wow. You guys where not kidding. I can catch gears so much harder with more precision. And when just drving normal it dont look like I just started drving a stick yesterday. Thanks for busting you a** and doing the install Nick, my girl did not want to cooperate LOL __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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06-15-2011, 05:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1120	Yeah, put mine in this morning and it feels awesome. Perfect weight.

06-16-2011, 12:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
cruzmisl Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 122 Drives: 08 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 17	Holy ****, the bottom pin was a bear. I think I was working on it for an hour and a half. Be really careful with the pin. I think I nicked it on the end trying to tap it out, which caused it to become out of spec and basically get stuck before I could completely get it out of the bottom spring holder piece. The top one wasn't a problem at all. I had to drive it without a spring to my dads house (to sand the pin and bracket back to spec,) which was my first time doing so. I loved how it felt, and was immediately driving the car smoother with less effort. It felt natural. This made me more excited to get the new spring in. After I fixed the pin and the bracket, I got it in and tested it. It still took some work to get it in. I'm not sure how some of you guys do it so fast. Anyway, it's way better than stock and really how it should feel!

06-16-2011, 09:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
svt to 370z Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: berea,oh Posts: 139 Drives: 09 red 370z 6mt Rep Power: 15	Ya I did mine yesterday took me 5 min tops. Pulled the bottom c clip dropped the spring out put the new one on and put it back in. very smooth and easy and man is it a plesant surpise! I really like how it feels and drives now. so much smoother.

06-16-2011, 01:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1120	I used pliers to put mine in...took all of 2 minutes...and I had to do the top too which was so much more of a pain than the bottom...bottom one is easy.

06-16-2011, 01:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
cruzmisl Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 122 Drives: 08 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 17	That is good advice. There really isn't any space down there to do a whole lot. If you **** it up bad enough you might even have to take the whole freakin clutch pedal assembly out.

06-16-2011, 11:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 23	just installed mine. actually took longer than i thought. after i removed the C clips, the entire assembly just fell apart so it took me a while to figure out how it went back in (wasnt paying much attention) anywho, car is washed, quick detailed and new clutch spring installed. cant wait to drive it tomorrow. thanks again for doing this man!