Everyone with oil temp issues

rackley · 06-26-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

It was 101F here yesterday, though my car said it was 112F outside

Pretty bad when your car sits for 4 hours, and the oil temp is still above the minimum, and the coolant temp is still around where it normally sits!

Anyhow, with some spunky driving I cracked 220...in fact, I've yet to get it to 240.

The guys doing so must be REALLY pushing the car, or driving illegally on the streets - IMO...

That's a BIG negative and to be honest I'm sick of people telling me I'm driving illegally because my temps are high. Either you haven't read this whole thread or you're ignoring everyone who posts who says they have high oil temps without pushing their car.

My Z sits at 220 as a BASE oil temp. Doing anything more than 6th gear cruising (5th gear cruising for example) will cause temps to hit 240+ in very short order. This is just cruising on the freeway. Forget any kind of sporty driving.

Zcott · 06-26-2009, 08:58 AM

I'll add some info.

Yesterday on my 30 minute drive home my oil temp easily reached a steady235.
It was 102 degrees.
My speed varied between 50-70 depending on the traffic. I'm babying it right now since it only has 800 miles, so there was no "shenanigans" involved.

I can believe it's very easy to push it higher without doing anything illegal when it's hot outside... simple thermodynamics...

antennahead · 06-26-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rackley

That's a BIG negative and to be honest I'm sick of people telling me I'm driving illegally because my temps are high. Either you haven't read this whole thread or you're ignoring everyone who posts who says they have high oil temps without pushing their car.

My Z sits at 220 as a BASE oil temp. Doing anything more than 6th gear cruising (5th gear cruising for example) will cause temps to hit 240+ in very short order. This is just cruising on the freeway. Forget any kind of sporty driving.

220 is my normal base temp as well, anything outside cruising along and up they go......... how hi depends on RPMs attained and for how long, as well as air flow and ambient temperatures. 260 is possible without breaking the law or driving recklessly.

John

ricer333 · 06-29-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rackley

That's a BIG negative and to be honest I'm sick of people telling me I'm driving illegally because my temps are high. Either you haven't read this whole thread or you're ignoring everyone who posts who says they have high oil temps without pushing their car.

My Z sits at 220 as a BASE oil temp. Doing anything more than 6th gear cruising (5th gear cruising for example) will cause temps to hit 240+ in very short order. This is just cruising on the freeway. Forget any kind of sporty driving.

Hey guys, something here has crossed my mind, especially with the previous post that is quoted above. And before I ask this question, believe me, I have kept up with this thread very closely.

So here it is, has anyone tested the accuracy of the Oil temp Gauge in the car? It seems that this gauge could be off and reporting higher temps for some and lower temps for others. The reason I ask is primarily due to people having high temps at startup, high temps when driving yet not getting the 'limp mode' and other various reasons.

If the gauge was off then it could be reporting higher temps than actual. I guess the only real way would be to run the spirited test driving, noting the Oil gauge temp, and then draining the oil (or some other way to thermo gauge the temp).

What do you all think about this? Not being a huge car expert, it just seems questionable that with all the same mechanical parts, the one thing that could be off would be the gauges.

~Matt

Modshack · 06-29-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ricer333

So here it is, has anyone tested the accuracy of the Oil temp Gauge in the car? It seems that this gauge could be off and reporting higher temps for some and lower temps for others. The reason I ask is primarily due to people having high temps at startup, high temps when driving yet not getting the 'limp mode' and other various reasons.

I brought this up a month or 2 ago since there seems to be a large variation in experiences. Either a bad batch of senders, or gauges could be a factor..

cossie1600 · 06-25-2009, 11:06 AM

I am netural on the oil cooler warranty issue. I do want to say that modern oil can run at high temperature with no problem. matter of fact, modern cars run at high temperature because they are more efficient and therefore less emission. 210 oil temp is common in new cars and it is completely okay if your car is design for it. rings are usually built looser on these motors, allowing them to expand under high temp. if you go too low on it, you actually put more stress on motor. this is why there is an opearting temperature, not just low temperature is better.

as for oil temperature rising quickly, it has as much to do with rpm than anything else. guys who are constantly holding the car in the 4500 rpm will be way higher than guys who redline and then cruise back at 2500rpm. rpm builds heat, oil is used to lower the heat.

all the complaining is the reason why cars don't have accurate water and oil temp gauge now, I think people need to relax a little. unless you track the car, I would look at this as a concern rather than panic.

bored at work.....

bluzman · 06-26-2009, 02:09 PM

Seriously curious...I wonder how many people on here have actually triggered the "limp" mode during street driving?

ChrisSlicks · 06-26-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bluzman

Seriously curious...I wonder how many people on here have actually triggered the "limp" mode during street driving?

It's actually really difficult. Although it's pretty easy to reach 240-250, it takes quite a bit more to reach 280. I certainly haven't done it on the street yet, although it's possible if traffic wasn't in the way. Basically just have to accelerate, brake, corner, over and over a few times for several minutes.

joeyz10 · 06-27-2009, 12:27 AM

Guys I was invited by Nissan to participate in one on one interview with regards to my z. They are aware of the oil temp issues that's going around our forum. They said there is a factory oil cooler already available for around 400 bucks and installation is I think about 400 bucks also. They said if you don't track the z then you absolutely don't need to get this oil cooler but if you do track it then you should get it. That's from Nissan. End of story. It's your choice if you track or not . Period. Stop debating, there is no sense. You Ytack you get an oil coller, you don't track don't.

wstar · 06-27-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyz10

Guys I was invited by Nissan to participate in one on one interview with regards to my z. They are aware of the oil temp issues that's going around our forum. They said there is a factory oil cooler already available for around 400 bucks and installation is I think about 400 bucks also. They said if you don't track the z then you absolutely don't need to get this oil cooler but if you do track it then you should get it. That's from Nissan. End of story. It's your choice if you track or not . Period. Stop debating, there is no sense. You Ytack you get an oil coller, you don't track don't.

I don't track, and I have yet to actually trigger limp mode, but I'm still getting a cooler (going in Tuesday I hope, along with more oil capacity in general). Ambient temp on the car display today was 101. Cruising in high gear it stabilized around 230, which is fine if it would stay there. One little half-mile open stretch with some nice curves came up, and I burned through it at the limit and then accelerated up onto a highway ramp at full throttle. Checked the oil temp as I was bringing it down to a good coasting speed on the highway: 255F. Then I backed off and cruised in 7th under the speed limit a while to get it back to 230.

There's nothing wrong with 255 really, as an occasional burst, but I wouldn't want to sustain that kind of temp, as it affects oil viscosity and oil life. So right now, in the interests of keeping the oil (and thus the engine) in good shape my driving is limited by oil temps. I have to back off and let the car cool occasionally, and/or I have to pop the hood and fan-cool the car when I get home before I shut it down. I don't want to be doing that, and frankly shouldn't have to. Luckily the aftermarket has fixes

antennahead · 06-27-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

I don't track, and I have yet to actually trigger limp mode, but I'm still getting a cooler (going in Tuesday I hope, along with more oil capacity in general). Ambient temp on the car display today was 101. Cruising in high gear it stabilized around 230, which is fine if it would stay there. One little half-mile open stretch with some nice curves came up, and I burned through it at the limit and then accelerated up onto a highway ramp at full throttle. Checked the oil temp as I was bringing it down to a good coasting speed on the highway: 255F. Then I backed off and cruised in 7th under the speed limit a while to get it back to 230.

There's nothing wrong with 255 really, as an occasional burst, but I wouldn't want to sustain that kind of temp, as it affects oil viscosity and oil life. So right now, in the interests of keeping the oil (and thus the engine) in good shape my driving is limited by oil temps. I have to back off and let the car cool occasionally, and/or I have to pop the hood and fan-cool the car when I get home before I shut it down. I don't want to be doing that, and frankly shouldn't have to. Luckily the aftermarket has fixes

What cooler are you putting in Tuesday?

John

wstar · 06-27-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead

What cooler are you putting in Tuesday?

John

Stillen's original (current) cooler kit, + AAM's oil pan spacer to add more capacity to the system.

Wally · 06-27-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyz10

Guys I was invited by Nissan to participate in one on one interview with regards to my z. They are aware of the oil temp issues that's going around our forum. They said there is a factory oil cooler already available for around 400 bucks and installation is I think about 400 bucks also. They said if you don't track the z then you absolutely don't need to get this oil cooler but if you do track it then you should get it. That's from Nissan. End of story. It's your choice if you track or not . Period. Stop debating, there is no sense. You Ytack you get an oil coller, you don't track don't.

Do you have the information on this cooler, part number etc. Not aware of any nissan oil cooler besides the nismo - c part that is $760

antennahead · 06-27-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally

Do you have the information on this cooler, part number etc. Not aware of any nissan oil cooler besides the nismo - c part that is $760

I'm with ya, we all have been waiting on Nissan to announce a cooler for this car that is approved for dealer installation and won't void the warranty. Any news is welcome.

John

37Z · 06-29-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyz10

Guys I was invited by Nissan to participate in one on one interview with regards to my z. They are aware of the oil temp issues that's going around our forum. They said there is a factory oil cooler already available for around 400 bucks and installation is I think about 400 bucks also. They said if you don't track the z then you absolutely don't need to get this oil cooler but if you do track it then you should get it. That's from Nissan. End of story. It's your choice if you track or not . Period. Stop debating, there is no sense. You Ytack you get an oil coller, you don't track don't.

Which department/devision from Nissan (i.e. Nissan USA or Nissan Motorsports) inquiried about your 370Z oil temperature issues?

When I drove home from purchasing my 370Z from the Nissan dealership my oil temp increased to 240 degrees in a 35 mile commute. Outside temps varied from 89 - 93 degrees that day. Since then, my 370Z oil temperature during daily driving commute max's out around 220-230 degrees with the outside temperature between 87 - 93 degrees. One would think that living in Florida should be a testbed for oil temps/water temperature issues.

In order for Nissan to receive feedback on the 370Z oil temperature issue; I suggest logging your 370Z commutes by:

Daily distance traveled
Daily Outside temperature
370Z Water temperature
370Z Oil temperature
Average Speed of daily commute
Maximum speed/distance during maximum oil temperature of daily commute
Minimum speed/distance during minimum oil temperature of daily commute
Time(how long) duration of the maximum oil temperature
Current odometer reading of 370Z
Manufacture date

Anyone from Nissan is welcome to add to the bulleted list.

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Zcott Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 89 Drives: 09 370Z Sport PG M6 Rep Power: 18	I'll add some info. Yesterday on my 30 minute drive home my oil temp easily reached a steady235. It was 102 degrees. My speed varied between 50-70 depending on the traffic. I'm babying it right now since it only has 800 miles, so there was no "shenanigans" involved. I can believe it's very easy to push it higher without doing anything illegal when it's hot outside... simple thermodynamics...

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 32	I am netural on the oil cooler warranty issue. I do want to say that modern oil can run at high temperature with no problem. matter of fact, modern cars run at high temperature because they are more efficient and therefore less emission. 210 oil temp is common in new cars and it is completely okay if your car is design for it. rings are usually built looser on these motors, allowing them to expand under high temp. if you go too low on it, you actually put more stress on motor. this is why there is an opearting temperature, not just low temperature is better. as for oil temperature rising quickly, it has as much to do with rpm than anything else. guys who are constantly holding the car in the 4500 rpm will be way higher than guys who redline and then cruise back at 2500rpm. rpm builds heat, oil is used to lower the heat. all the complaining is the reason why cars don't have accurate water and oil temp gauge now, I think people need to relax a little. unless you track the car, I would look at this as a concern rather than panic. bored at work.....

06-27-2009, 12:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 18	Guys I was invited by Nissan to participate in one on one interview with regards to my z. They are aware of the oil temp issues that's going around our forum. They said there is a factory oil cooler already available for around 400 bucks and installation is I think about 400 bucks also. They said if you don't track the z then you absolutely don't need to get this oil cooler but if you do track it then you should get it. That's from Nissan. End of story. It's your choice if you track or not . Period. Stop debating, there is no sense. You Ytack you get an oil coller, you don't track don't.