Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

fosingwo · 09-21-2012, 11:33 PM

how many time does the same part have to be fix for it to be considered a lemon?

SS_Firehawk · 09-22-2012, 10:43 AM

I remember seeing a revised Nissan OEM CSC, but when did they start putting them on their cars?

afbunn · 09-25-2012, 09:52 PM

Bump for this, my car is in the shop right now for these same reasons. Mechanic says it's the slave cylinder. We have to order the part since we're on Guam

and after what I've been reading in this thread, should I tell him to go ahead and order and replace the master cylinder as well while he's at it?

Sparhax · 09-27-2012, 10:12 AM

40k Miles 09 370z

Clutch Pedal stuck to the floor, towed to the dealer. Dealer wants 1600 to replace the clutch assembly and are checking out the slave cylinder and flywheel. I have the extended waranty.

After reading all this I wonder if my cluch assembly even needs replacement and I just need the Master/slave cylinder replaced. ( I don't know much about cars)

ChrisSlicks · 09-27-2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparhax

40k Miles 09 370z

Clutch Pedal stuck to the floor, towed to the dealer. Dealer wants 1600 to replace the clutch assembly and are checking out the slave cylinder and flywheel. I have the extended waranty.

After reading all this I wonder if my cluch assembly even needs replacement and I just need the Master/slave cylinder replaced. ( I don't know much about cars)

Unless it's had a lot of hard driving the clutch disc itself is likely fine, however since you have to drop the transmission to get to the CSC it's an opportune time to consider replacement at a reduced labor rate since the warranty will pay for the CSC replacement and the labor to drop/install the transmission. The price he's given you so far certainly isn't discounted

jennyt71 · 09-27-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparhax

40k Miles 09 370z

Clutch Pedal stuck to the floor, towed to the dealer. Dealer wants 1600 to replace the clutch assembly and are checking out the slave cylinder and flywheel. I have the extended waranty.

After reading all this I wonder if my cluch assembly even needs replacement and I just need the Master/slave cylinder replaced. ( I don't know much about cars)

which dealer did you take it to?

CC QUIK · 10-01-2012, 11:47 PM

this was one of my fears when i traded in 2011 Z 7sp auto for a 2012 6sd man. I've heard many horror stories about the clutch and csc failures. Great info from all. Planning to install a ACT clutch from stillen.

sungear · 10-27-2012, 08:45 PM

Loss of clutch hydraulic pressure occurred on my way home from vacation. Eastbound on I-40, east of OKC, the pedal went all the way to the floor. Eventually got of the road and was somewhat able to pump up the clutch using my hand, since the pedal wouldn't return on its own. No signs of fluid loss, reservoir full. Limped on home, periodically having to take the car out of gear to pump up the clutch again. Got the car to the dealer with 35.5 k miles on the odo.I suggested they try bleeding the system first, but they went ahead and ordered the CSC, master cylinder, and tube; they must already have a service bulletin or something.

ZForce · 10-28-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

^

Mine is the clutch master cylinder. Part will be here in one week. Covered under EXTENDED warranty. 41k miles.

Work order states " Customer states clutch pedal fades and feels mushy when 1st applied at cold start". Inspection confirms customer concern. Mushy feel and found the fluid is full, the clutch master cylinder is by passing. Suggest replace and recheck clutch function.

Next week we will see...

All mine needed was the clutch master cylinder (cmc). 1k + mi on cmc and no worries. Wonder why dealers are replacing the csc if it might just be the cmc. Warranty $$ maybe....unless as someone previously stated the clutch is being thrashed.

All good here, but will keep a foot out for csc.

Footloose301 · 10-28-2012, 06:54 PM

Update: I recently posted in here believing I had this issue but I just pumped in and replaced my clutch fluid and haven't had one single issue since then.

Before changing fluids the pedal was squishy after 30min of highway 80mph driving, just cruising. Now the pedal remains consistent no matter how hard I push the car

Some of you lurkers may want to swap your clutch fluids BEFORE you have these issues. I had the same symptoms and perhaps I fixed the issue before it became a CSC failure. .....I hope.

ZForce · 10-28-2012, 08:12 PM

^ I agree, although my clutch fluid was still the initial fill at factory 2009 with 42k miles. I imagine the dealer would have performed this IF they diagnosed it was just a fluid swap.

Best to get them to replace the cmc while it's still under warranty...imo

martin82 · 10-29-2012, 12:33 PM

I need to drop off my car too, pedal dropped a few times to the floor. Replaced fluid and worked better but now I am gettin 2nd and 5th gear grind...

lhinojos · 10-29-2012, 02:06 PM

Last Thursday I was on my way home from knotts when I went to downshift for traffic and the pedal went to the floor. Dropped it off at the dealer today. What annoys me the most is that I'm 19 and they guy didn't seem to take me seriously. Hopefully they figure out whats wrong. I'm also worried if it'll be covered under warranty

sungear · 10-30-2012, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungear

Loss of clutch hydraulic pressure occurred on my way home from vacation. Eastbound on I-40, east of OKC, the pedal went all the way to the floor. Eventually got of the road and was somewhat able to pump up the clutch using my hand, since the pedal wouldn't return on its own. No signs of fluid loss, reservoir full. Limped on home, periodically having to take the car out of gear to pump up the clutch again. Got the car to the dealer with 35.5 k miles on the odo.I suggested they try bleeding the system first, but they went ahead and ordered the CSC, master cylinder, and tube; they must already have a service bulletin or something.

After having the CMC and CSC replaced under warranty, the clutch feels better than when the car was new!

martin82 · 10-30-2012, 10:37 PM

Can someone post up their invoice showing what was replaced etc..... under warranty?
or email it to me?

09-22-2012, 10:43 AM	#137 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	I remember seeing a revised Nissan OEM CSC, but when did they start putting them on their cars? __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

10-28-2012, 06:54 PM	#145 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 21	Update: I recently posted in here believing I had this issue but I just pumped in and replaced my clutch fluid and haven't had one single issue since then. Before changing fluids the pedal was squishy after 30min of highway 80mph driving, just cruising. Now the pedal remains consistent no matter how hard I push the car Some of you lurkers may want to swap your clutch fluids BEFORE you have these issues. I had the same symptoms and perhaps I fixed the issue before it became a CSC failure. .....I hope. __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

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09-21-2012, 11:33 PM	#136 (permalink)
fosingwo Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 112 Drives: 05 EVO 8 MR Rep Power: 13	how many time does the same part have to be fix for it to be considered a lemon?

09-25-2012, 09:52 PM	#138 (permalink)
afbunn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Ogden, Utah Posts: 116 Drives: 2009 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 12	Bump for this, my car is in the shop right now for these same reasons. Mechanic says it's the slave cylinder. We have to order the part since we're on Guam and after what I've been reading in this thread, should I tell him to go ahead and order and replace the master cylinder as well while he's at it?

09-27-2012, 10:12 AM	#139 (permalink)
Sparhax Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston Age: 39 Posts: 32 Drives: 2017 370z Sport MT Rep Power: 16	40k Miles 09 370z Clutch Pedal stuck to the floor, towed to the dealer. Dealer wants 1600 to replace the clutch assembly and are checking out the slave cylinder and flywheel. I have the extended waranty. After reading all this I wonder if my cluch assembly even needs replacement and I just need the Master/slave cylinder replaced. ( I don't know much about cars)

10-01-2012, 11:47 PM	#142 (permalink)
CC QUIK Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Vegas Posts: 83 Drives: 2012 370Z Rep Power: 12	this was one of my fears when i traded in 2011 Z 7sp auto for a 2012 6sd man. I've heard many horror stories about the clutch and csc failures. Great info from all. Planning to install a ACT clutch from stillen.

10-27-2012, 08:45 PM	#143 (permalink)
sungear Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Huntsville Posts: 17 Drives: 2011 370Z Blue M6 Rep Power: 14	Loss of clutch hydraulic pressure occurred on my way home from vacation. Eastbound on I-40, east of OKC, the pedal went all the way to the floor. Eventually got of the road and was somewhat able to pump up the clutch using my hand, since the pedal wouldn't return on its own. No signs of fluid loss, reservoir full. Limped on home, periodically having to take the car out of gear to pump up the clutch again. Got the car to the dealer with 35.5 k miles on the odo.I suggested they try bleeding the system first, but they went ahead and ordered the CSC, master cylinder, and tube; they must already have a service bulletin or something.

10-28-2012, 08:12 PM	#146 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 20	^ I agree, although my clutch fluid was still the initial fill at factory 2009 with 42k miles. I imagine the dealer would have performed this IF they diagnosed it was just a fluid swap. Best to get them to replace the cmc while it's still under warranty...imo

10-29-2012, 12:33 PM	#147 (permalink)
martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 19	I need to drop off my car too, pedal dropped a few times to the floor. Replaced fluid and worked better but now I am gettin 2nd and 5th gear grind...

10-29-2012, 02:06 PM	#148 (permalink)
lhinojos Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 559 Drives: 12 370z GM M6 Rep Power: 14	Last Thursday I was on my way home from knotts when I went to downshift for traffic and the pedal went to the floor. Dropped it off at the dealer today. What annoys me the most is that I'm 19 and they guy didn't seem to take me seriously. Hopefully they figure out whats wrong. I'm also worried if it'll be covered under warranty

10-30-2012, 10:37 PM	#150 (permalink)
martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 19	Can someone post up their invoice showing what was replaced etc..... under warranty? or email it to me?