Nissan 370Z Forum  

Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

VIN: 503996 Purchase Date: 08/28/2010 Occurrence Date: 09/03/2012 Occurrence Mileage: 26,xxx Clutch Type: OEM I havent done anything under the hood - just have ARK exhaust. started by being REALLY

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree805Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-03-2012, 05:24 PM   #106 (permalink)
Track Member
 
jennyt71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 637
Drives: '10 PW Nismo #393
Rep Power: 15
jennyt71 will become famous soon enough
Default

VIN: 503996
Purchase Date: 08/28/2010
Occurrence Date: 09/03/2012
Occurrence Mileage: 26,xxx
Clutch Type: OEM

I havent done anything under the hood - just have ARK exhaust. started by being REALLY slow to come up after shifting for a few minutes (shifting to 6th). Getting off the freeway, had to pull it up with my foot to get it in 1st and 2nd to park at a gas station.. was towed to the dealer. We will see what they say tomorrow. (before today, no issues)
__________________
jennyt71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 02:36 PM   #107 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: chicago
Posts: 783
Drives: '12 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 14
Jsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really nice
Default

It would be interesting to note what sort of maintenance was done on vehicles with failed CSC's. Specifically, how often the clutch fluid was flushed.
Jsolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 03:08 PM   #108 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
DIGItonium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,800
Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT
Rep Power: 42
DIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond reputeDIGItonium has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I don't think most of us hit the mileage to require fluid flush before the CSC failed. Some owners already had a failed CSC and/or master after a few thousand miles of ownership.

IIRC, it's a failed O-ring inside the CSC that seals the piston, so it starts leaking fluid from there.
__________________
http://www.the370z.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=950&dateline=13162988  42
DIGItonium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 03:17 PM   #109 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: chicago
Posts: 783
Drives: '12 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 14
Jsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really nice
Default

Digi, perhaps that's the problem...

The fsm recommends inspecting every 12 months or 15K miles. Perhaps that should read to mean replace it rather than just inspect.

The question is what causes the oring failure.

Found this either on here or the g37 site. Sounds plausible.

Clutch Care
Jsolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 03:37 PM   #110 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,655
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 944523
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuct View Post
i thought i read the master cylinder wasnt up to the task once you installed the upgraded CSC. i read it wrong, all you need to do is bleed it properly.
16,500 miles on my ZSpeed CSC, no problems or failures. Used with OSGiken twin disk in a daily driver twin turbo car.

The bleeding isnt fun... but ill gladly take the nightmare of getting my clutch system bled when switching CSCs, versus having to tow my lowered car with a front lip back to the shop after breaking down in traffic!
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph
phunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 04:00 PM   #111 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,027
Drives: Lexus CT
Rep Power: 16
anthonyy will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DIGItonium View Post
I don't think most of us hit the mileage to require fluid flush before the CSC failed. Some owners already had a failed CSC and/or master after a few thousand miles of ownership.

IIRC, it's a failed O-ring inside the CSC that seals the piston, so it starts leaking fluid from there.
yup. My case exactly and same with many others here.
anthonyy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 07:34 PM   #112 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 319
Drives: 09 370Z PW M6
Rep Power: 16
TacoZ is on a distinguished road
Default

1st time - pedal stuck to floor - Failed slave cylinder - replaced by dealer.
2nd time - no pressure/sometimes pedal stuck on floor - replaced master cylinder
3rd time - same as 2nd time - they said pedal assembly - replaced pedal assembly
4th time - same as 2nd time - they just replaced the whole clutch assembly (flywheel, pressure plate)

My car is finally back to normal (fingers crossed) but I will always drive scared...
TacoZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 09:49 PM   #113 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TheGreatOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Montreal, Canada
Age: 46
Posts: 1,980
Drives: E60 BMW M5
Rep Power: 21
TheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatOne has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Glad I used the search function before making a post!

I brought my car in for service last week (fluid changes and brake service)

Got car back and it felt pretty good, but then now I am getting the clutch pedal sticking to the floor, it happened a few times on short drives, so for sure getting worse. I wonder if thats related to them recently changing that fluid?

I'll be calling the dealership tomorrow

37,000 km = 22,000 miles
__________________
2017 SUBARU STI
2008 E60 M5 - SOLD
2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)
TheGreatOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 11:54 PM   #114 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 2,359
Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport
Rep Power: 20
ZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jsolo View Post
..........
Found this either on here or the g37 site. Sounds plausible.

Clutch Care
RumbleFish likes this.
ZForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 09:10 PM   #115 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
ENT-Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 460
Drives: 09 MB 6MT 370Z
Rep Power: 16
ENT-Z has a spectacular aura aboutENT-Z has a spectacular aura aboutENT-Z has a spectacular aura about
Default Me Too

Happend to me yesterday as well. Pedal stuck to the floor, limped it home, check under the hood, reservoir empty, fill it up for drive to dealer, CSC gone bad. 22,800 miles on my 2009. So sad.
ENT-Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2012, 06:31 PM   #116 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: chicago
Posts: 783
Drives: '12 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 14
Jsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really nice
Default

I was going to say it might not be a bad idea for us 6mt folks to carry a bottle of brake fluid in the trunk. Only problem, once its bled dry, getting the system pressurized again is not a roadside repair. If you catch it early enough, sure. Then again, the volume of the whole system is so small, how many pumps of the pedal will it take before needing a refill.
Jsolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 09:59 PM   #117 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 319
Drives: 09 370Z PW M6
Rep Power: 16
TacoZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Probably a stupid question but do you guys drive with Syncro Rev on? I wonder if that Syncro Rev system causes clutch failure. I've been driving with it off ever since I had the clutch replaced.
TacoZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 10:00 PM   #118 (permalink)
Track Member
 
jennyt71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 637
Drives: '10 PW Nismo #393
Rep Power: 15
jennyt71 will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TacoZ View Post
Probably a stupid question but do you guys drive with Syncro Rev on? I wonder if that Syncro Rev system causes clutch failure. I've been driving with it off ever since I had the clutch replaced.
Yes, I do.
__________________
jennyt71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 10:01 PM   #119 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: chicago
Posts: 783
Drives: '12 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 14
Jsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really niceJsolo is just really nice
Default

It's not the syncrorev. The g's don't have that and from the posts on the G site, suffer a similar amount of csc failures.
Jsolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2012, 12:47 AM   #120 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Z_ealot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 2,044
Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt
Rep Power: 10090
Z_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond reputeZ_ealot has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyy View Post
yup. My case exactly and same with many others here.
curious to know what the production date on your 2011 is, just passed 26,000 miles on my 2011 and no problems with the clutch at all (knock on wood). mine was in the june 2011 production run just to get that out there.
Z_ealot is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[STICKY] How much did you pay for your 370Z? (Australian Version) [STICKY] AK370Z Australia/New Zealand 155 03-20-2021 07:35 AM
Sticky: 370Z Transmission Failures (6MT) DIGItonium Engine & Drivetrain 104 02-25-2021 10:19 AM
[FOR SALE] 370z clutch, flywheel & pressure plate 40flash Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 2 06-11-2012 08:10 AM
CSC Acting UP? Sticky Clutch captured on video.. help? GonGo Nissan 370Z Warranty / Scheduled Maintenance / Servicing / Repairs 7 12-23-2011 09:33 PM
370Z flywheel, pressure plate & Clutch disc 40flash Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 2 07-23-2010 07:03 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2