Can you get to 400 without turbo or super-charger

RCZ

I did acknowledge that there are some well designed out of the box kits out there, go back and read. The thread asks about getting 400 without a turbo, hence your post is completely irrelevant to the thread. Your opinion might not be wrong, its just in the wrong place.

Some of us folks are just sharing experiences and adding some personal insight and experience. I did not blast anyone. Whats the point of buying a turbo kit and running low boost? To make 60hp? Whoopee!! You said "if" done right. The problem is that it is extremely hard to get 100% right the first time around. I have been around many many builds and maybe one in ten start and idle the first time the motor turns over. And these are builds done by people who compete in timeattack events all over the country and build 500whp cars all day long. The average joe is at a big disadvantage. Unless, like I already said, they go and drop off the car and a wad of cash at the local shop and come back to get it 2 weeks later.

Also honestly, unless you are going to track the car with race tires on...big power becomes completely useless on the street.

Chill out. Getting worked up over something like this is immature and completely pointless. Learn to respect others opinion without getting upset and start an unnecessary argument. There is always more than one way to deal with the situation, the first one you think up is the emotional one, often not the best choice... If you dont want it to turn into my350 then don't turn it into my350.

I really cant wait to start seeing what people are getting out of this engine NA... Its going to be so fun finding the right setup.

G&M Performance

Look, I don't need advice. I appreciate your concern, but maybe this online discussion thing isn't for me because people have a tendency of misunderstanding one another. Additionally, I don't appreciate the fact that you're calling me "immature." You don't know how I operate on a daily basis, so don't fly off of the handle and label people when you see a post that is a bit on the passionate side.

Anyway, the soldier that fabricated this thread just wanted to know if NA was a feasible option and I provided him with my opinion. You thereafter posted yours, which seemed to target my opinion, and I countered it because I wanted to let you know that boosting is cheaper than going N/A. Simple enough, huh? I'm sorry if I offended you or pissed you off.

Don't forget that I also stated that a well tuned boosted car can last longer than most people own their cars. By today's standards, that means 3-5 years. There are OEM cars that are boosted that last 10+ years that require periodic maintenance with the turbocharger. Again, it is all in how the vehicle is tuned. Oh and it is also all in how it is cared for.

Finally, a car running 6psi on a large displacement motor can make plenty of power. Sometimes more than 60hp. Also, the money that it would take to get to the soldier's target hp naturally aspirated would cost more than it would to turbocharge it. You know, it's all in what he wants to do in the end, right? As long as he surrounds himself with the right people and dedicates himself to learning how to boost, build N/A, or whatever, he can minimize the chances of his car going kaput.

And by the way, are you saying that making big power is 400whp and is not good for a streetable setup? Please elaborate!


P.s. NA for the 370 will definitely be a change from the 350.