Can you get to 400 without turbo or super-charger

ssqpolo

im pretty sure we will be able to get over 400hp NA in time. check out the work cosworth did for the vq35 for the castrol syntec top shop challenge. i think they pushed something near 430hp NA...which is pretty amazing. granted it will be expensive, its def. do-able. all we gotta do is hit up eric hsu at cosworth and make it happen

BoBoTee

Cost wise it's not worth it, especially just to get a mere 430hp on 100 oct gas. A turbo set up would cost less, make more power and still use 91-93octane depending on boost levels. I prefer boosted cars to N/A's, more fun to drive I guess.

MightyBobo

The funny part is, in the end, 400 WHP would make this car faster than 99% of the cars on the road, and people seem to think they ALWAYS need more. More more more.

This car was built for the track, and any more than that, may seriously affect vehicle dynamics.

Sure, some 800 WHP boosted ground pounder may be cool, but does anyone honestly think they'll put that power to the ground EFFECTIVELY?

BoBoTee

Sure 400whp might be enough for some, but I don't think that it would make it faster then 99% of the cars on the road. In my area there are a bunch of Evo's,STi's,Supras,Rx7s,Cobras, and Vettes running 400whp,500whp,600whp and up. I had a 400whp Evo8 myself before I wrecked it. I think a 450whp 370z would be good for street and track. It all depends on the setup.

MightyBobo

Seriously? You dont think the vast majority of cars on the road are stock and/or completely riced out w/ no mods? Not to mention all the grocery getters, vans, daily drivers and whatnot out there.

Being the fastest from stoplight to stoplight means **** anymore, really, except the high possibility of losing your license and hurting someone. Straight line racing is boring, too. Street racing is and has lost so much allure now that states are cracking down on it. Go do some legal Auto-X or road racing.

I dont disagree, 400ish HP on the 370 would probably be pretty optimal for a VERY fast track car. Anywhere north of that though, I think you're now just going into the realm of wanting to be a stupid powerful street car with no purpose other than to brag. Who cares about the ridiculously powerful local cars are, do they even track them? Or do they just street race? How often do you go to these car shows and see these blown classic muscle cars that never see anything other than a garage when they aren't at the show?

Its just not worth it for me, career and insurance wise, to get caught racing on the street. I'll stick to legal methods now, thanks.

BoBoTee

Who said anything about street light to street light racing?

G&M Performance

Have you ever thought that maybe those people enjoy building motors just for fun? Not everybody that has a powerful car is a meat head that pounds the public pavement for the hell of it. Remember, there are idiots everywhere you go in ALL horsepower classes and ALL kinds of vehicles. Quit your whining and go back to your Enfamil formula.

MightyBobo

Oh geeze, someone's upset over a lot of nothing. For the record Im 25. And secondly, of course there's idiots everywhere - where did I say specifically that 370Z owners were the plague?

You're reading into what I was saying far too much - the short point is that, from my side of the fence, I plan on modding with the purpose to race the car at a track. If you want to mod it to have some ridiculous amount of horsepower, have at it I guess. But I see that on par with getting chrome 24's on a Hummer - a vehicle that'll never do what its designed to do.

Sounds like you did a little street racing with your SRT-4 and I hit a nerve, to be perfectly honest. I never said I was innocent, myself. But after a couple eye-opening incidents, never again.

RCZ

I did acknowledge that there are some well designed out of the box kits out there, go back and read. The thread asks about getting 400 without a turbo, hence your post is completely irrelevant to the thread. Your opinion might not be wrong, its just in the wrong place.

Some of us folks are just sharing experiences and adding some personal insight and experience. I did not blast anyone. Whats the point of buying a turbo kit and running low boost? To make 60hp? Whoopee!! You said "if" done right. The problem is that it is extremely hard to get 100% right the first time around. I have been around many many builds and maybe one in ten start and idle the first time the motor turns over. And these are builds done by people who compete in timeattack events all over the country and build 500whp cars all day long. The average joe is at a big disadvantage. Unless, like I already said, they go and drop off the car and a wad of cash at the local shop and come back to get it 2 weeks later.

Also honestly, unless you are going to track the car with race tires on...big power becomes completely useless on the street.

Chill out. Getting worked up over something like this is immature and completely pointless. Learn to respect others opinion without getting upset and start an unnecessary argument. There is always more than one way to deal with the situation, the first one you think up is the emotional one, often not the best choice... If you dont want it to turn into my350 then don't turn it into my350.

I really cant wait to start seeing what people are getting out of this engine NA... Its going to be so fun finding the right setup.