What new under-hood Performance Parts would you like to see from COBB Tuning?

COBB Tuning · 05-20-2010, 12:55 PM

First of all, I think it is important to let you all know that we understand that maps for the 370Z is the most important thing that COBB Tuning needs to offer to the 370Z community at this time. This survey was to gauge interest in other parts that 370Z enthusiasts might want to see from COBB Tuning, but given the delays in 370Z maps, perhaps it was inappropriate for us to post this survey here. If so, I apologize.

Regarding the 370Z maps, everyone wants VVEL cracked. We are working on figuring it out, but it is extremely complex, and we cannot offer a timeline that estimates when we will have this sorted out.

We are very late in delivering these maps as we were hoping to have VVEL tuning incorporated in them. Since the time frame for VVEL tuning is currently unknown, do 370Z AccessPORT owners want Off the Shelf maps created with the software as it exists today, without VVEL tuning?

Regards,

Gary
Marketing
COBB Tuning

dlmartin81 · 05-20-2010, 01:22 PM

Some ideas for new under the hood parts (like other companies):

* Oil cooler
* CAI
* LW Pulleys

I'm assuming that you'll only produce bolt-ons; otherwise, I'd also say:

* Valvetrain Upgrades
* Intake Manifold

dlmartin81 · 05-20-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyD

...

Cobb, how about some titanium springs, valves, retainers and an 8000K+ RPM redline? I'm guessing another 30-50HP could be squeezed out on revs alone. With a good VVEL tune and maybe an exhaust cam, look out M3.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

Prosport Gauges · 05-20-2010, 01:32 PM

1 single turbo setup

SE · 05-20-2010, 03:46 PM

In all honesty, I am waiting on the VVEL to be cracked before buying the Cobb AP. Until then, I will be considering other alternatives. I understand that the VVEL system is complex, but next time don't promise something before it's actually available. This is why you have so many upset Z34 owners on here.

Intakes would be nice, but if it's anything like the one on your Time Attack Z34, count me out. Short rams have been shown to lose power time and time again, and I seriously doubt you'd be able to make a huge profit selling those. If it were a long tube/CAI, I'd consider it. Just use hard pipes rather than the rubber hoses like your post-MAF pipes- I know that aluminum/metal retains more heat, but it is more asthetically pleasing. A head package would be awesome- think exhaust cam with intake VVEL shims for longer lift/duration. You'd be the first on the market with that.

Just my $0.02.

drisko · 05-20-2010, 05:36 PM

I think it would be good to have a couple base maps without VVEL. I'm expecting the gains will be in the 3% range, similar to the G37. I'm sure the midrange and responsiveness of the car would improve as well.

That said, COBB should still have cracking VVEL as a high priority since it is a technology that Nissan/Infiniti will continue to use for many years and it could net some huge tuning gains (not to mention a ton of sales for COBB).

kannibul · 05-20-2010, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyD

Crack VVEL, first and foremost.

As for these cars "needing FI". I'm throwing the BS flag. I still believe we can make 400+ Flywheel HP NA. Don't get me wrong, turbo cars are the most fun you can have behind the wheel, but even the best systems add weight and maintenance headaches. You should also consider that the stock torque curve (very flat) is the reason the Z is such and easy car to drive fast. You can kiss that goodbye with turbo. A SC will maintain a stock-like torque curve, but again adds weight.

Cobb, how about some titanium springs, valves, retainers and an 8000K+ RPM redline? I'm guessing another 30-50HP could be squeezed out on revs alone. With a good VVEL tune and maybe an exhaust cam, look out M3.

I dont know about you and everyone else...but I rarely roll around at 5K+

HP at the top end is meaningless to me...low and midrange torque...need moar.

kannibul · 05-20-2010, 06:07 PM

I would like to see 7AT upgrades. Valvebody, trans cooler, etc...

earwicker7 · 05-20-2010, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

I would like to see 7AT upgrades. Valvebody, trans cooler, etc...

Oh yeah!

Red370 · 05-20-2010, 07:10 PM

To Cobb, yes, canned maps w/o VVEL factored in would tide alot of people over for the time being until its finally cracked. Next question I have is, this VVEL, should it be cracked, will we see much higher gains than the standard canned maps we have now?

Zsteve · 05-21-2010, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efuseakay

Access Port for 370z

I'm just sayin'...

so why couldnt they have done that long ago, the bums.

Zsteve · 05-21-2010, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBB Tuning

First of all, I think it is important to let you all know that we understand that maps for the 370Z is the most important thing that COBB Tuning needs to offer to the 370Z community at this time. This survey was to gauge interest in other parts that 370Z enthusiasts might want to see from COBB Tuning, but given the delays in 370Z maps, perhaps it was inappropriate for us to post this survey here. If so, I apologize.

Regarding the 370Z maps, everyone wants VVEL cracked. We are working on figuring it out, but it is extremely complex, and we cannot offer a timeline that estimates when we will have this sorted out.

We are very late in delivering these maps as we were hoping to have VVEL tuning incorporated in them. Since the time frame for VVEL tuning is currently unknown, do 370Z AccessPORT owners want Off the Shelf maps created with the software as it exists today, without VVEL tuning?

Regards,

Gary
Marketing
COBB Tuning

well we have been getting canned maps from another company to be used with your product. Kinda sad another company had to do it.

Zsteve · 05-21-2010, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

I would like to see 7AT upgrades. Valvebody, trans cooler, etc...

transmission chip for even quicker shifts and maybe convert the D mode into a sport mode.

puckshaw · 05-21-2010, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBB Tuning

....do 370Z AccessPORT owners want Off the Shelf maps created with the software as it exists today, without VVEL tuning?

Regards,

Gary
Marketing
COBB Tuning

Absolutely! I can't imagine why this wasn't done a long time ago. Sure we'd love to have VVEL cracked but at least give us some basic canned maps to tide us over in the meantime. I know I won't be buying an AP until OTS maps are available.

JoeyD · 05-22-2010, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

I dont know about you and everyone else...but I rarely roll around at 5K+

HP at the top end is meaningless to me...low and midrange torque...need moar.

I cruise like every other car on the road; In sixth gear conserving go juice. However, when I am having fun I wind out every gear, and when carving up the twistys I try to keep my revs as high as possible.

I mean no offense, but if you wanted head pinning (tire shredding) torque you should have bought a Camaro or the like. Just sayin...

05-20-2010, 01:22 PM	#32 (permalink)
dlmartin81 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Age: 44 Posts: 923 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 608	Some ideas for new under the hood parts (like other companies): * Oil cooler * CAI * LW Pulleys I'm assuming that you'll only produce bolt-ons; otherwise, I'd also say: * Valvetrain Upgrades * Intake Manifold __________________ Dan F.I. SS CBE 18-R \|\| Llumar 40% tint Last edited by dlmartin81; 05-20-2010 at 01:25 PM.

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	To Cobb, yes, canned maps w/o VVEL factored in would tide alot of people over for the time being until its finally cracked. Next question I have is, this VVEL, should it be cracked, will we see much higher gains than the standard canned maps we have now? __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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05-20-2010, 12:55 PM	#31 (permalink)
COBB Tuning Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 50 Drives: Vintage Nissans Rep Power: 16	First of all, I think it is important to let you all know that we understand that maps for the 370Z is the most important thing that COBB Tuning needs to offer to the 370Z community at this time. This survey was to gauge interest in other parts that 370Z enthusiasts might want to see from COBB Tuning, but given the delays in 370Z maps, perhaps it was inappropriate for us to post this survey here. If so, I apologize. Regarding the 370Z maps, everyone wants VVEL cracked. We are working on figuring it out, but it is extremely complex, and we cannot offer a timeline that estimates when we will have this sorted out. We are very late in delivering these maps as we were hoping to have VVEL tuning incorporated in them. Since the time frame for VVEL tuning is currently unknown, do 370Z AccessPORT owners want Off the Shelf maps created with the software as it exists today, without VVEL tuning? Regards, Gary Marketing COBB Tuning

05-20-2010, 01:32 PM	#34 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	1 single turbo setup

05-20-2010, 03:46 PM	#35 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 24	In all honesty, I am waiting on the VVEL to be cracked before buying the Cobb AP. Until then, I will be considering other alternatives. I understand that the VVEL system is complex, but next time don't promise something before it's actually available. This is why you have so many upset Z34 owners on here. Intakes would be nice, but if it's anything like the one on your Time Attack Z34, count me out. Short rams have been shown to lose power time and time again, and I seriously doubt you'd be able to make a huge profit selling those. If it were a long tube/CAI, I'd consider it. Just use hard pipes rather than the rubber hoses like your post-MAF pipes- I know that aluminum/metal retains more heat, but it is more asthetically pleasing. A head package would be awesome- think exhaust cam with intake VVEL shims for longer lift/duration. You'd be the first on the market with that. Just my $0.02.

05-20-2010, 05:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
drisko Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Age: 44 Posts: 160 Drives: 09 370Z PW Tour S 6M Rep Power: 17	I think it would be good to have a couple base maps without VVEL. I'm expecting the gains will be in the 3% range, similar to the G37. I'm sure the midrange and responsiveness of the car would improve as well. That said, COBB should still have cracking VVEL as a high priority since it is a technology that Nissan/Infiniti will continue to use for many years and it could net some huge tuning gains (not to mention a ton of sales for COBB).

05-20-2010, 06:07 PM	#38 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 268	I would like to see 7AT upgrades. Valvebody, trans cooler, etc...