Traction Controll Completely Off?

spearfish25 · 03-10-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by admin

Hello from sunny North Carolina -- 370Z Traction control vs VDC issue

According to Nissan Technology Manager, once the VDC is off, EVERYTHING is shut off. I have sent them email and they assured me. But What Chris said, makes sense too. I guess the ONLY way you can find out is go out and do more aggressive driving

That email reply you posted from the was pretty generic actually. It didn't really specify that VDC OFF = everything off. Did they send you any other correspondence?

ChrisSlicks · 03-10-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gh0st3794

I've tested VDC in the rain. With VDC on, I can get the vdc to activate when it detects wheelspin, and the slip light flashes. With VDC turned off however, I can spin the tires in the wet without vdc cutting power. Also the slip light doesn't flash with VDC off.

Mine most definitely flashes when I spin the rear tires even with VDC off. One experiment I'm yet to do is to check if it makes a difference "when" you press the VDC button. E.g. pressing the button immediately after starting the car vs just pressing the button while driving.

elmz · 03-10-2010, 01:36 PM

When you turn off VDC, it is completely off. You still get the indicator light that you are losing traction, but traction control does not re-engage or cut off power.

shadow2k · 03-10-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

When you turn off VDC, it is completely off. You still get the indicator light that you are losing traction, but traction control does not re-engage or cut off power.

This is correct, from first hand experience. The VDC is very invasive when it cuts power, so it is easy to tell that it is not interfering when it's off.

ChrisSlicks · 03-10-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow2k

This is correct, from first hand experience. The VDC is very invasive when it cuts power, so it is easy to tell that it is not interfering when it's off.

It's a different kind of intervention. And it doesn't intervene until you do something pretty crazy, and even then you may not notice.

marcussoori · 03-10-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by admin

Hello from sunny North Carolina -- 370Z Traction control vs VDC issue

According to Nissan Technology Manager, once the VDC is off, EVERYTHING is shut off. I have sent them email and they assured me. But What Chris said, makes sense too. I guess the ONLY way you can find out is go out and do more aggressive driving

AK, why did you change your screen name?

Slynky · 03-10-2010, 08:56 PM

So, if I understand the thread, we still have no clear answer and the best we can seem to agree on is that VDC will either be all the way on (when it is turned on) and "partly on" (when it is turned off)...???

Chriz · 03-10-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

When you turn off VDC, it is completely off. You still get the indicator light that you are losing traction, but traction control does not re-engage or cut off power.

Im pretty sure this is correct.

Vegitto-kun · 03-11-2010, 08:25 AM

just watch out when you turn vdc or we can expect more "i crashed my 370"

Matt · 03-11-2010, 08:27 AM

Too funny.

vipor · 03-11-2010, 08:34 AM

Someone said something like 15% on even when off

gh0st3794 · 03-11-2010, 08:59 AM

I haven't ever noticed the slip light flash during wheel spin when I have VDC turned off.

tru_Asiatik · 03-11-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

just watch out when you turn vdc or we can expect more "i crashed my 370"

thats not VDC off....thats just plain st#pid!!!

ocfoilist · 03-11-2010, 12:28 PM

Actually, I think that there is still some traction control on, even when you turn off VCD. I have noticed at the track that, although I have a lot more freedom to wiggle the back end, there have been a few moments where power was momentarily cut. It seemed to happen coming out of the same turn each time and I suspect that I was hitting a slightly uneven surface, bringing one wheel off the ground for a moment. It's not enough of an un-level surface to have an effect on exiting the corner, but the car reads a sudden extreme difference in wheel speed and compensates. Unfortunately, instead of just cutting power to that particular wheel, it drops my RPM limit for about 2 seconds (feels just like limp mode, except that oil temp is not the issue). Power is quickly restored and I just end up losing a little time.

It was very reproducible for me, depending on how fast I tried to exit the corner. The frustrating thing was that the issue was happening after I had wound out the wheel and was going almost completely straight, so the wheel skip has no negative effect on my handling. Very intrusive, in this case.

theDreamer · 03-11-2010, 12:36 PM

ocfoilist, are you sure it was traction control and not the fuel cutting out?
It has been reported that people are having issues around certain turns with less than a full tank that they lose power because of fuel starvation. Fuel starvation, who else?

03-10-2010, 08:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
Slynky Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 595 Drives: 2010 Red 370Z T/S/N Rep Power: 16	So, if I understand the thread, we still have no clear answer and the best we can seem to agree on is that VDC will either be all the way on (when it is turned on) and "partly on" (when it is turned off)...??? __________________ A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America," for an amount of "up to and including my life."

03-11-2010, 08:27 AM	#25 (permalink)
Matt A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 41 Posts: 1,680 Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT Rep Power: 18	Too funny. __________________ "Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

03-11-2010, 08:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	Someone said something like 15% on even when off __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-11-2010, 08:59 AM	#27 (permalink)
gh0st3794 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: FL Posts: 121 Drives: 2012 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 15	I haven't ever noticed the slip light flash during wheel spin when I have VDC turned off. __________________ -2012 Solid Red NISMO 370Z -2010 370Z 6MT sport pkg 301 whp 251.4 wtq (Dynojet) SOLD -K8 Suzuki GSX-R 600

03-11-2010, 12:28 PM	#29 (permalink)
ocfoilist Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 202 Drives: 09 Blue 6m 370zT/S/N Rep Power: 16	Actually, I think that there is still some traction control on, even when you turn off VCD. I have noticed at the track that, although I have a lot more freedom to wiggle the back end, there have been a few moments where power was momentarily cut. It seemed to happen coming out of the same turn each time and I suspect that I was hitting a slightly uneven surface, bringing one wheel off the ground for a moment. It's not enough of an un-level surface to have an effect on exiting the corner, but the car reads a sudden extreme difference in wheel speed and compensates. Unfortunately, instead of just cutting power to that particular wheel, it drops my RPM limit for about 2 seconds (feels just like limp mode, except that oil temp is not the issue). Power is quickly restored and I just end up losing a little time. It was very reproducible for me, depending on how fast I tried to exit the corner. The frustrating thing was that the issue was happening after I had wound out the wheel and was going almost completely straight, so the wheel skip has no negative effect on my handling. Very intrusive, in this case. __________________ Proud owner of a new 167.2 inch, 3278 lb baby Z! Stillen CBE & G3 Intake // Stillen Lightweight pulley // Stillen Oil Cooler // Goodridge Braided Stainless Steel Brake Lines // ACT HDSS Clutch& Alum Flywheel

03-10-2010, 01:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	When you turn off VDC, it is completely off. You still get the indicator light that you are losing traction, but traction control does not re-engage or cut off power.

03-11-2010, 08:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	just watch out when you turn vdc or we can expect more "i crashed my 370"

03-11-2010, 12:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	ocfoilist, are you sure it was traction control and not the fuel cutting out? It has been reported that people are having issues around certain turns with less than a full tank that they lose power because of fuel starvation. Fuel starvation, who else? __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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