Traction Controll Completely Off?

B_Bear · 03-12-2010, 06:35 PM

Owner's Manual says that VDC OFF means exactly that, but ABLS and ABS are still active. Maybe folks are feeling ABLS kick in.

pg 5-27: "The VDC system uses an Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS) function to improve vehicle traction. The ABLS system works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The ABLS system brakes the spinning wheel, which distributes the driving power to the other drive wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the VDC OFF switch pushed and the VDC system turned off, all VDC systems will be turned off. The ABLS system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off. If the ABLS system is activated, the (slip) indicator (light) will blink..."

ChrisSlicks · 03-13-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Bear

Owner's Manual says that VDC OFF means exactly that, but ABLS and ABS are still active. Maybe folks are feeling ABLS kick in.

pg 5-27: "The VDC system uses an Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS) function to improve vehicle traction. The ABLS system works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The ABLS system brakes the spinning wheel, which distributes the driving power to the other drive wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the VDC OFF switch pushed and the VDC system turned off, all VDC systems will be turned off. The ABLS system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off. If the ABLS system is activated, the (slip) indicator (light) will blink..."

That's probably it. Good find.

theDreamer · 03-13-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Bear

Owner's Manual says that VDC OFF means exactly that, but ABLS and ABS are still active. Maybe folks are feeling ABLS kick in.

pg 5-27: "The VDC system uses an Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS) function to improve vehicle traction. The ABLS system works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The ABLS system brakes the spinning wheel, which distributes the driving power to the other drive wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the VDC OFF switch pushed and the VDC system turned off, all VDC systems will be turned off. The ABLS system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off. If the ABLS system is activated, the (slip) indicator (light) will blink..."

Looks like the solution to the problem/question, good find.

gumpy · 03-14-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Bear

Owner's Manual says that VDC OFF means exactly that, but ABLS and ABS are still active. Maybe folks are feeling ABLS kick in.

pg 5-27: "The VDC system uses an Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS) function to improve vehicle traction. The ABLS system works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The ABLS system brakes the spinning wheel, which distributes the driving power to the other drive wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the VDC OFF switch pushed and the VDC system turned off, all VDC systems will be turned off. The ABLS system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off. If the ABLS system is activated, the (slip) indicator (light) will blink..."

I thought that this ABLS thing was only for the models without the LSD so that the wheel with traction at some point will get some power... For the life of me i can't find where i read this... so at this point in time I have no proof...

zeecarr · 11-10-2011, 10:21 PM

I have found that VDC is still active, albeit at a reduced level, even when switched off. I have attempted a smoky burnout with it off, lit them up great about halfway through the intersection, and then bog city as nanny Nissan shuts down the power. This is a real thing, regardless of what the literature says.

Skeeterbop · 11-10-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zeecarr

I have found that VDC is still active, albeit at a reduced level, even when switched off. I have attempted a smoky burnout with it off, lit them up great about halfway through the intersection, and then bog city as nanny Nissan shuts down the power. This is a real thing, regardless of what the literature says.

I've had no issues getting it to spin the tires with vdc off. I would agree with the others, it's the ABLS you feel, not the VDC.

ChrisSlicks · 11-11-2011, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop

I've had no issues getting it to spin the tires with vdc off. I would agree with the others, it's the ABLS you feel, not the VDC.

Correct. The ABLS kicks in when there is a large differential wheel speed either side to side or front to rear, so it will potentially kill your burnout. This is not VDC.

kenoverbey · 11-14-2011, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Bear

Owner's Manual says that VDC OFF means exactly that, but ABLS and ABS are still active. Maybe folks are feeling ABLS kick in.

pg 5-27: "The VDC system uses an Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS) function to improve vehicle traction. The ABLS system works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The ABLS system brakes the spinning wheel, which distributes the driving power to the other drive wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the VDC OFF switch pushed and the VDC system turned off, all VDC systems will be turned off. The ABLS system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off. If the ABLS system is activated, the (slip) indicator (light) will blink..."

I think this is what people are experiencing....If you touch the brake under wheel spin it acts like the VDC.

03-12-2010, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
B_Bear Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 6 Drives: - Rep Power: 16	Owner's Manual says that VDC OFF means exactly that, but ABLS and ABS are still active. Maybe folks are feeling ABLS kick in. pg 5-27: "The VDC system uses an Active Brake Limited Slip (ABLS) function to improve vehicle traction. The ABLS system works when one of the driving wheels is spinning on a slippery surface. The ABLS system brakes the spinning wheel, which distributes the driving power to the other drive wheel. If the vehicle is operated with the VDC OFF switch pushed and the VDC system turned off, all VDC systems will be turned off. The ABLS system and ABS will still operate with the VDC system off. If the ABLS system is activated, the (slip) indicator (light) will blink..." Mt Tam I am likes this.

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11-10-2011, 10:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
zeecarr Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 15 Drives: 2009 370Z 7 Speed Rep Power: 17	I have found that VDC is still active, albeit at a reduced level, even when switched off. I have attempted a smoky burnout with it off, lit them up great about halfway through the intersection, and then bog city as nanny Nissan shuts down the power. This is a real thing, regardless of what the literature says.