Oil Consumption Test Today

DooDooBrown · 03-04-2010, 07:42 PM

I did the top off as instructed by the dealership. This is not my first new car, it is actually my third, although, I do admit, the Z is the most sporty new car I have owned. A couple of my friends have Z06 vettes, STI's, BMW's etc, but none have seemed to have this issue.
I guess where this really is becoming an issue is the dealership oil changes.... I got them free for life from the dealership, however, they change it once every 7500 with the Nissan synthetic they put in it... I know that if I didn't stay on top of this issue, the car would have no oil by the time that it is due for its next change....

racerxj17 · 03-04-2010, 08:25 PM

problem? yes. nissan think so? maybe not. my car has burned oil since day one. last check, i was 1.5 qts low at 1700 miles. (full to below empty on stick)

no this isnt my first car, and yes its too much oil to burn. my last toyota v6 was putting out 425 hp, and would burn ZERO oil. now i have to watch my oil over a long road trip, not pleasant in a 40k, or a 10k car.

it is what it is though, id rather dump in oil than have some 20 yr old kid swap my engine on my car...... too many horror stories at the dealership (including incorrect install that led to a blown engine)

BlackCherryZ · 03-04-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

I did the top off as instructed by the dealership. This is not my first new car, it is actually my third, although, I do admit, the Z is the most sporty new car I have owned. A couple of my friends have Z06 vettes, STI's, BMW's etc, but none have seemed to have this issue.
I guess where this really is becoming an issue is the dealership oil changes.... I got them free for life from the dealership, however, they change it once every 7500 with the Nissan synthetic they put in it... I know that if I didn't stay on top of this issue, the car would have no oil by the time that it is due for its next change....

I would not be so sure about that....... if it were anything other than a Z or GTR, then i would JUMP at the free oil change for life..........

most likely they use regular oil.......... unless, if you had verified with your own eyes already....

hope you get the issue resolved in one way or the other....

perhaps, it is not a big issue......... but, i bet no one on this forum would feel ok with it..... for it is a $40k new car..

if i were you, i would take it to the dealer 3 threes, get the paper work ready, and claim lemon...... i had put in a new engine in my toyota avalon, but it is not the same.....

Modshack · 03-04-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ

if i were you, i would take it to the dealer 3 threes, get the paper work ready, and claim lemon......

I'm sorry...Claim lemon for what? The OP has used 1/4 qt. in 1000 miles per his consumption test. That's hardly a justification for a buyback..

BlackCherryZ · 03-05-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I'm sorry...Claim lemon for what? The OP has used 1/4 qt. in 1000 miles per his consumption test. That's hardly a justification for a buyback..

perhaps, i have misunderstood, but OP did say "checked the dipstick, it is about 3/4 after 1000 miles."

3/4 on the dipstick in just 1000 miles........ correct me if i am wrong.......

i would not make the comment on the rate of consumption without a solid proof, but considering the fact that his dealership changes every 7500, who knows how much is left or what the repercussions without adding in every so often..... i would hate to even imagine about it...

personally, for it is a new car......... i would never consider adding in additional oil as something tolerable......... just my two cents....

on the other hand, if indeed it is 1/4 qt between oil changes, it would not even be a consideration/problem..... but it so seems, solely based on speculation at this point, it is not 1/4 between oil changes...

having had new car engine issues and having dealt numerous times with dealers, it might be better to go with the lemon. i think it is a win-win situation, for you do not lose anything........it is just that your claim can get rejected at worst........

ZeeYouLater · 03-05-2010, 01:03 PM

I will get my brand new vq37vhr the next days
Nissan VQ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i think this is a burning in problem with low budget test drivers at dealership (i think you call it donats driving ..the bavarian have a lot of more skill, they make a prezel) without degreed engineer know-how !!
how many miles your car has on the odometer when you bought it ?

we will see if it is the same for me as engineer !

by the way there is a lot of linguistic know-how inside the word doughnot..
may it means -- do not

elmz · 03-05-2010, 12:17 PM

I'm am starting to see an oil consumption issue myself after my 1st oil change at 3,700 miles. I am monitoring the situation. I baby'd this car for the first 3k, now that it's broken in, I driving more aggressively, but not beating on it. I'm shifting anywhere from 3-4k now instead of 2-3k, with occasional hard pull here and there.

I owned an 05 350Z for 4.5 years before this one and had no such issues, so I can relate.

TipsZ · 03-05-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

... checked the dipstick, it is about 3/4 after 1000 miles....

So are you saying that your engine has about 3/4ths Full after a 1,000 miles? Thus, that would mean, theoretically, at 2,000 miles you are at 1/2 and at 3,000 miles are left with a 1/4 of the intended oil (wayyy below L).

If THAT is the case, then I agree you have an issue.

DooDooBrown · 03-05-2010, 02:10 PM

Yes, I am saying that it is at 3/4 after just changing the oil 1,050 miles exactly... It was also a little overfilled ( Right on the H, a little above the top hole)..... If I where to go without ever checking the oil, I would hate to see what would happen.... At 7500 miles (or however long it took), I would have zero oil.... I would have no issue, and I find it to be perfectly acceptable if it is at 3/4 after 7500 miles, but this is *ONLY 1000 MILES AFTER THE OIL CHANGE* ... I am sorry, I didnt pay this much money to have to keep a spare quart of oil with me on long road trips..... I understand that engines burn oil, hell, I drive fire trucks at work. We tax those engines more than most people tax the engines on their Z's.... But they usually are good for burning 2 qts of oil every 10,000 miles or so.... Even that would be acceptible....
I know this is an issue, and it is only going to be a matter of time before Nissan realizes this is going to be an issue. My only question is what happens from there??? I have heard numerious people on this fourm state that after engine swaps, the car isn't the same, and there are issues, etc.... I don't really want that... Not to mention, I would assume that it would come up in a carfax report.... Anyone got any ideas??

Modshack · 03-05-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

My only question is what happens from there??? I have heard numerious people on this fourm state that after engine swaps, the car isn't the same, and there are issues, etc.... I don't really want that... Not to mention, I would assume that it would come up in a carfax report.... Anyone got any ideas??

Don't worry...You won't be getting a new engine so no need to sweat that. If you were burining a quart per 7 to 800 miles like a few others that got engines you could then start.
Sorry, but this sounds more like whining than a problem. The world is not a perfect place.. The fact that your dealer is only doing your FREE oil change at 7500 miles has nothing to do with your need to check and maintain the car. Cars use oil, some use more than others. Get over it. I had a car that didn't stop using til it hit 15K.

The general sense of entitlement here is amazing..

IDZRVIT · 03-05-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Don't worry...You won't be getting a new engine so no need to sweat that. If you were burining a quart per 7 to 800 miles like a few others that got engines you could then start.
Sorry, but this sounds more like whining than a problem. The world is not a perfect place.. The fact that your dealer is only doing your FREE oil change at 7500 miles has nothing to do with your need to check and maintain the car. Cars use oil, some use more than others. Get over it. I had a car that didn't stop using til it hit 15K.

The general sense of entitlement here is amazing..

Burning a quart of oil per 1000 miles is an acceptable amount in the automotive industry whether it be a Veyron or an Accent. I would be checking my oil at every fill up and also carry a quart in the car at all times.

blackflag · 03-06-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Don't worry...You won't be getting a new engine so no need to sweat that. If you were burining a quart per 7 to 800 miles like a few others that got engines you could then start.
Sorry, but this sounds more like whining than a problem. The world is not a perfect place.. The fact that your dealer is only doing your FREE oil change at 7500 miles has nothing to do with your need to check and maintain the car. Cars use oil, some use more than others. Get over it. I had a car that didn't stop using til it hit 15K.

The general sense of entitlement here is amazing..

What are you not getting here?

He said 3/4 full in 1000 miles. That's 1/4 down. As in 1.25 quarts lost in 1000 miles. That's crazy, and I'll be keeping an eye on mine.

1 quart per 1000 miles was acceptable 20 years ago - not today.

Modshack · 03-07-2010, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blackflag

What are you not getting here?

He said 3/4 full in 1000 miles. That's 1/4 down. As in 1.25 quarts lost in 1000 miles. That's crazy, and I'll be keeping an eye on mine.

Wow! You guys must be students of the New Math. 1/4 down on the stick is roughly 1/4 quart. The sky must be falling where you live...

blackflag · 03-07-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

1/4 down on the stick

I don't think he ever said that. He said his oil was "3/4 full." He didn't say anything about the stick.

I could be wrong, but I interpret that as 3/4 = 3.75 Qt. full. (or so).

I mean, in his first post, he said, "whole 1 qt. 1000 miles."

TipsZ · 03-05-2010, 04:33 PM

Sorry, I have no experience with the engine swap issue. In fact, what you are describing seems to be an anomaly, and is not typical, at least compared to my 370z.

03-04-2010, 08:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
racerxj17 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 555 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 18	problem? yes. nissan think so? maybe not. my car has burned oil since day one. last check, i was 1.5 qts low at 1700 miles. (full to below empty on stick) no this isnt my first car, and yes its too much oil to burn. my last toyota v6 was putting out 425 hp, and would burn ZERO oil. now i have to watch my oil over a long road trip, not pleasant in a 40k, or a 10k car. it is what it is though, id rather dump in oil than have some 20 yr old kid swap my engine on my car...... too many horror stories at the dealership (including incorrect install that led to a blown engine) __________________ 2009 PW Sport/Touring/Nav M6 Stillen Gen 3 Intake/CBE/Berk HFC/BC BR Coil over/Phillips 6500k/Hotchkis Sways/Stillen oil cooler/B&M SS

03-05-2010, 01:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
ZeeYouLater Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Swiss Posts: 39 Drives: 370z Roadster Rep Power: 16	I will get my brand new vq37vhr the next days Nissan VQ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia i think this is a burning in problem with low budget test drivers at dealership (i think you call it donats driving ..the bavarian have a lot of more skill, they make a prezel) without degreed engineer know-how !! how many miles your car has on the odometer when you bought it ? we will see if it is the same for me as engineer ! by the way there is a lot of linguistic know-how inside the word doughnot.. may it means -- do not __________________ ___________________________ 7AT. NAVI. 19". (Sport and Touring Package)

03-05-2010, 02:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 17	Yes, I am saying that it is at 3/4 after just changing the oil 1,050 miles exactly... It was also a little overfilled ( Right on the H, a little above the top hole)..... If I where to go without ever checking the oil, I would hate to see what would happen.... At 7500 miles (or however long it took), I would have zero oil.... I would have no issue, and I find it to be perfectly acceptable if it is at 3/4 after 7500 miles, but this is ONLY 1000 MILES AFTER THE OIL CHANGE ... I am sorry, I didnt pay this much money to have to keep a spare quart of oil with me on long road trips..... I understand that engines burn oil, hell, I drive fire trucks at work. We tax those engines more than most people tax the engines on their Z's.... But they usually are good for burning 2 qts of oil every 10,000 miles or so.... Even that would be acceptible.... I know this is an issue, and it is only going to be a matter of time before Nissan realizes this is going to be an issue. My only question is what happens from there??? I have heard numerious people on this fourm state that after engine swaps, the car isn't the same, and there are issues, etc.... I don't really want that... Not to mention, I would assume that it would come up in a carfax report.... Anyone got any ideas?? Last edited by DooDooBrown; 03-05-2010 at 02:22 PM.

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03-04-2010, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 17	I did the top off as instructed by the dealership. This is not my first new car, it is actually my third, although, I do admit, the Z is the most sporty new car I have owned. A couple of my friends have Z06 vettes, STI's, BMW's etc, but none have seemed to have this issue. I guess where this really is becoming an issue is the dealership oil changes.... I got them free for life from the dealership, however, they change it once every 7500 with the Nissan synthetic they put in it... I know that if I didn't stay on top of this issue, the car would have no oil by the time that it is due for its next change....

03-05-2010, 12:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 18	I'm am starting to see an oil consumption issue myself after my 1st oil change at 3,700 miles. I am monitoring the situation. I baby'd this car for the first 3k, now that it's broken in, I driving more aggressively, but not beating on it. I'm shifting anywhere from 3-4k now instead of 2-3k, with occasional hard pull here and there. I owned an 05 350Z for 4.5 years before this one and had no such issues, so I can relate.