Oil Consumption Test Today

BlackCherryZ · 03-05-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I'm sorry...Claim lemon for what? The OP has used 1/4 qt. in 1000 miles per his consumption test. That's hardly a justification for a buyback..

perhaps, i have misunderstood, but OP did say "checked the dipstick, it is about 3/4 after 1000 miles."

3/4 on the dipstick in just 1000 miles........ correct me if i am wrong.......

i would not make the comment on the rate of consumption without a solid proof, but considering the fact that his dealership changes every 7500, who knows how much is left or what the repercussions without adding in every so often..... i would hate to even imagine about it...

personally, for it is a new car......... i would never consider adding in additional oil as something tolerable......... just my two cents....

on the other hand, if indeed it is 1/4 qt between oil changes, it would not even be a consideration/problem..... but it so seems, solely based on speculation at this point, it is not 1/4 between oil changes...

having had new car engine issues and having dealt numerous times with dealers, it might be better to go with the lemon. i think it is a win-win situation, for you do not lose anything........it is just that your claim can get rejected at worst........

elmz · 03-05-2010, 12:17 PM

I'm am starting to see an oil consumption issue myself after my 1st oil change at 3,700 miles. I am monitoring the situation. I baby'd this car for the first 3k, now that it's broken in, I driving more aggressively, but not beating on it. I'm shifting anywhere from 3-4k now instead of 2-3k, with occasional hard pull here and there.

I owned an 05 350Z for 4.5 years before this one and had no such issues, so I can relate.

ZeeYouLater · 03-05-2010, 01:03 PM

I will get my brand new vq37vhr the next days
Nissan VQ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i think this is a burning in problem with low budget test drivers at dealership (i think you call it donats driving ..the bavarian have a lot of more skill, they make a prezel) without degreed engineer know-how !!
how many miles your car has on the odometer when you bought it ?

we will see if it is the same for me as engineer !

by the way there is a lot of linguistic know-how inside the word doughnot..
may it means -- do not

TipsZ · 03-05-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

... checked the dipstick, it is about 3/4 after 1000 miles....

So are you saying that your engine has about 3/4ths Full after a 1,000 miles? Thus, that would mean, theoretically, at 2,000 miles you are at 1/2 and at 3,000 miles are left with a 1/4 of the intended oil (wayyy below L).

If THAT is the case, then I agree you have an issue.

DooDooBrown · 03-05-2010, 02:10 PM

Yes, I am saying that it is at 3/4 after just changing the oil 1,050 miles exactly... It was also a little overfilled ( Right on the H, a little above the top hole)..... If I where to go without ever checking the oil, I would hate to see what would happen.... At 7500 miles (or however long it took), I would have zero oil.... I would have no issue, and I find it to be perfectly acceptable if it is at 3/4 after 7500 miles, but this is *ONLY 1000 MILES AFTER THE OIL CHANGE* ... I am sorry, I didnt pay this much money to have to keep a spare quart of oil with me on long road trips..... I understand that engines burn oil, hell, I drive fire trucks at work. We tax those engines more than most people tax the engines on their Z's.... But they usually are good for burning 2 qts of oil every 10,000 miles or so.... Even that would be acceptible....
I know this is an issue, and it is only going to be a matter of time before Nissan realizes this is going to be an issue. My only question is what happens from there??? I have heard numerious people on this fourm state that after engine swaps, the car isn't the same, and there are issues, etc.... I don't really want that... Not to mention, I would assume that it would come up in a carfax report.... Anyone got any ideas??

TipsZ · 03-05-2010, 04:33 PM

Sorry, I have no experience with the engine swap issue. In fact, what you are describing seems to be an anomaly, and is not typical, at least compared to my 370z.

Modshack · 03-05-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

My only question is what happens from there??? I have heard numerious people on this fourm state that after engine swaps, the car isn't the same, and there are issues, etc.... I don't really want that... Not to mention, I would assume that it would come up in a carfax report.... Anyone got any ideas??

Don't worry...You won't be getting a new engine so no need to sweat that. If you were burining a quart per 7 to 800 miles like a few others that got engines you could then start.
Sorry, but this sounds more like whining than a problem. The world is not a perfect place.. The fact that your dealer is only doing your FREE oil change at 7500 miles has nothing to do with your need to check and maintain the car. Cars use oil, some use more than others. Get over it. I had a car that didn't stop using til it hit 15K.

The general sense of entitlement here is amazing..

cab83_750 · 03-05-2010, 06:36 PM

I had my engine replaced due to oil consumption = 2 Qts/1000 miles. I'll chime in later to provide input.

IDZRVIT · 03-05-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Don't worry...You won't be getting a new engine so no need to sweat that. If you were burining a quart per 7 to 800 miles like a few others that got engines you could then start.
Sorry, but this sounds more like whining than a problem. The world is not a perfect place.. The fact that your dealer is only doing your FREE oil change at 7500 miles has nothing to do with your need to check and maintain the car. Cars use oil, some use more than others. Get over it. I had a car that didn't stop using til it hit 15K.

The general sense of entitlement here is amazing..

Burning a quart of oil per 1000 miles is an acceptable amount in the automotive industry whether it be a Veyron or an Accent. I would be checking my oil at every fill up and also carry a quart in the car at all times.

DooDooBrown · 03-05-2010, 08:45 PM

Sense of entitlement?? Are you ******* kidding me? The only reason I posted was to get more information, and share my experances, because there are people here who are going through the same damn thing... Maybe I am asking too much for a car that doesn't use a qt. of oil every 2000-2500 miles, exp. considering there are several members on this fourm who have no issues at all.... I am sorry, I don't claim to be a master mechanic, or anything like that, I just know that from the cars I own, and the fire trucks I drive, this is a bit abnormal... But as far as entitlement?? I busted my *** to buy this car, and I want to make sure it is around for a long time.... That is all....

Zsteve · 03-05-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

Alright everyone, update....
1). The dealer has done all oil changes on the car. The oil being used is the exact oil that is being called for in the owner's manual. It is from Nissan. I have, however, used Mobil 1 to top off before, and it has still gone through that.
2). I asked the service representitive, and he said I can check the oil as much as I pleased, however, I can not add oil unless it is below the L mark (had to give him a call).
3). It took me approx. 1 month to put on 1000 miles (We have had snow on the ground for much of January/Feb. in WV

When I checked my oil initally, it was right at the H, a little over-filled. I insured that was the case, as I let it sit over nite. The service advisor did acknoledge that it was an issue, however, they would have to call some Nissan factory tech. for further instructions. I simply made my case that I did not buy a $40,000.00 sports car to dump a qt. of oil in every 2000 miles.
Long story short, they want to see it again in 1500 miles.... We will see how it goes!

by the time you do all the milage stuff they want your warranty will be up. Id ask them why their magic isnt working good just to stir the pot on them.

tbonesteak · 03-06-2010, 05:22 AM

haha this thread cracks me up. you should be jumping for joy that your car's burning 1/4 qt per 1k miles. i kinda wish you bought a mazda rx8 which burns over 1qt per 1k miles and is normal, and saw how you reacted to that.

BlackCherryZ · 03-06-2010, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Burning a quart of oil per 1000 miles is an acceptable amount in the automotive industry whether it be a Veyron or an Accent. I would be checking my oil at every fill up and also carry a quart in the car at all times.

well, if indeed you had a Veyron, which burns oil as stated, i do not think you could/would say such a thing............but, on the other hand, if ppl had that kinda of money, no need to worry.........

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

Sense of entitlement?? Are you ******* kidding me? The only reason I posted was to get more information, and share my experances, because there are people here who are going through the same damn thing... Maybe I am asking too much for a car that doesn't use a qt. of oil every 2000-2500 miles, exp. considering there are several members on this fourm who have no issues at all.... I am sorry, I don't claim to be a master mechanic, or anything like that, I just know that from the cars I own, and the fire trucks I drive, this is a bit abnormal... But as far as entitlement?? I busted my *** to buy this car, and I want to make sure it is around for a long time.... That is all....

100%

some ppl can handle it and some not....... i guess i am on the NOT-side... as i said, having had a similar issue, it is NOT acceptable/tolerable.....

in any event, hope everything gets taken care of..........

AND, instead of dictating what is right/wrong or acceptable/unacceptable, i believe we should give OP suggestions, if not condolence.......

IDZRVIT · 03-06-2010, 08:41 AM

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well, if indeed you had a Veyron, which burns oil as stated, i do not think you could/would say such a thing............but, on the other hand, if ppl had that kinda of money, no need to worry.........

Of course I would not like a car using oil at a quart/1000 miles but it is an acceptable limit and crying about it won't get you a new engine.

Modshack · 03-06-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

Maybe I am asking too much for a car that doesn't use a qt. of oil every 2000-2500 miles,

Yes you are. And don't change the numbers. 1/4 qt per thousand = 1 qt every 4000 miles. A few thousand miles from now it may stop using completely. Regardless, 1qt per thousand is most manufacturers acceptable norm. (like it or not)

03-05-2010, 01:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
ZeeYouLater Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Swiss Posts: 39 Drives: 370z Roadster Rep Power: 15	I will get my brand new vq37vhr the next days Nissan VQ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia i think this is a burning in problem with low budget test drivers at dealership (i think you call it donats driving ..the bavarian have a lot of more skill, they make a prezel) without degreed engineer know-how !! how many miles your car has on the odometer when you bought it ? we will see if it is the same for me as engineer ! by the way there is a lot of linguistic know-how inside the word doughnot.. may it means -- do not __________________ ___________________________ 7AT. NAVI. 19". (Sport and Touring Package)

03-05-2010, 02:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 15	Yes, I am saying that it is at 3/4 after just changing the oil 1,050 miles exactly... It was also a little overfilled ( Right on the H, a little above the top hole)..... If I where to go without ever checking the oil, I would hate to see what would happen.... At 7500 miles (or however long it took), I would have zero oil.... I would have no issue, and I find it to be perfectly acceptable if it is at 3/4 after 7500 miles, but this is ONLY 1000 MILES AFTER THE OIL CHANGE ... I am sorry, I didnt pay this much money to have to keep a spare quart of oil with me on long road trips..... I understand that engines burn oil, hell, I drive fire trucks at work. We tax those engines more than most people tax the engines on their Z's.... But they usually are good for burning 2 qts of oil every 10,000 miles or so.... Even that would be acceptible.... I know this is an issue, and it is only going to be a matter of time before Nissan realizes this is going to be an issue. My only question is what happens from there??? I have heard numerious people on this fourm state that after engine swaps, the car isn't the same, and there are issues, etc.... I don't really want that... Not to mention, I would assume that it would come up in a carfax report.... Anyone got any ideas?? Last edited by DooDooBrown; 03-05-2010 at 02:22 PM.

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tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 375	haha this thread cracks me up. you should be jumping for joy that your car's burning 1/4 qt per 1k miles. i kinda wish you bought a mazda rx8 which burns over 1qt per 1k miles and is normal, and saw how you reacted to that.