Oil Cooler hose exploded

travisjb · 02-05-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

^^ this is the first instance of this happening, while it sucks and I'm sorry for the OP I don't see it being a reoccurring issue. In for pics hopefully it's a quick fix, unfortunately its going to cost you to get good oil back in there damn ester prices!

um, no it isn't... happened to me and I blew an engine... same exact thing - not the GTM kit though

travisjb · 02-05-2010, 11:23 PM

btw, what clued you in? did you see the oil on the street or did you see the oil light come on on the panel? how long before you cut off the motor? just curious... not a lot of time between the engine running out of oil and the thing ceasing up in a really bad way - something I unfortunately learned the hard way!

and for what it's worth, i agree, GTM should replace your hoses and with a different part... that's just part of being in the biz - they know it

SoCal 370Z · 02-05-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

I am not sure if itd do me any good to waste their time since I am gonna sell everything I bought for the Z so I dont know if people will want to buy the hoses.

I can see how you'd be pissed, but seriously, this is the life of the aftermarket and with so few Zs actually being produced I am thankful we have as large an aftermarket as we do. Yes, it's a pisser to have to cleanup an oil mess, but borrow a pressure washer with an underbody lance and simply apply a biodegradable degreaser via the pressure washer and then wash off the oil—not all that bad. View it as a lesson learned (believe me...I've been schooled many a time) to check all the parts before installation. GTM employs humans; humans occasionally make mistakes. It's not like GTM set out to piss you off or to get the bad press they are now getting via this thread. I'd keep the setup and work with GTM to resolve the situation. Life's too short to change course in this situation. Recoup, regather, re-install, and enjoy! C'mon man, you own a Z...how people can say that these days?

g96818 · 02-06-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

Its funny cuz I installed a bunch of stuff on my RSX by myself including the K-Pro ECU and I never had any issues other than my driving habits on the tranny.

idk how hard it is for you, but just swapping out a plug and play ecu is not hard at all. i agree with modshack, this seems like an installer error so don't blame the z for your bad installation

i feel sorry for the poor sap that's gonna buy ur car

TARDCORE · 02-06-2010, 12:46 AM

The Z is fine. Its very dirty and I dont think ima spend the $100 to get it pressure washed but everything runs ok. Just got back from a late night drive and it seems normal, my butt dyno doesnt approve of the Stillen G3.

I can see what your saying about owning a Z. Im single and Im gonna stay that way, im 22, I have been a border patrol agent for 3 years and I work hard, outside in heat, rain, and cold weather, I dont get to sit inside a building all day long. I know how lucky I am to own a Z but I wasnt handed the dam thing for free. I can afford to drive a c6 vette, shoulda bought a c6 vette, should be driving a c6 vette tomorrow to work. Well I am not and thats the lesson I learned, patience. All the bs about the user install lol its plumbing connect part A to part B. The hardest part was the cooler itself; trying to figure out where to mount the thing. Regaurdless of everyones opinions, mine will stay the same. Z is a great fun car but it has its flaws like every other car on the market. Not knocking it at all, I still drive it, still defend it, I just want to get rid of it.

SoCal 370Z · 02-06-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

The Z is fine. Its very dirty and I dont think ima spend the $100 to get it pressure washed but everything runs ok. Just got back from a late night drive and it seems normal, my butt dyno doesnt approve of the Stillen G3 however.

Did any of the engine oil cover the Stillen air filters? The G3 is pretty much proven to provide gains. How long have you had it on?

dad · 02-06-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

The Z is fine. Its very dirty and I dont think ima spend the $100 to get it pressure washed

Noooo! Don't use a pressure washer, I read some where that's a no-no! The water under that kind of pressure, can get into places and things that will cause problems!

CBRich · 02-06-2010, 09:19 AM

I agree that you shouldn't go for the pressure washer. Just cover the distributor and other electrical pieces with plastic bags, spray on an engine degreaser, and hose off.

SoCal 370Z · 02-06-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dad

Noooo! Don't use a pressure washer, I read some where that's a no-no! The water under that kind of pressure, can get into places and things that will cause problems!

I own a German-made Kranzle with adjustable pressure, and I use the underbody lance accessory followed by a Metro in areas that it can reach. The whole setup works beautifully, at least for me, but I’m detailed oriented as I take car care too seriously (ask my wife). No need to use it at full-pressure, and it's not a steam cleaner (that can actually remove engine paint, among other things).

m4a1mustang · 02-06-2010, 10:37 AM

Travis: was your failure do to a properly assembled fitting?

travisjb · 02-06-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Travis: was your failure do to a properly assembled fitting?

my installer said it was a blown line, but i suspect it was not fully attached... again, not the GTM kit, but lesson learned is to use the highest quality components and 3x check fittings when it comes to the oiling system... the pump on this car has a very high throughput and moves a lot of oil in short order in order to keep the upper end of the motor cool... so when these sorts of things happen, you have very little time to react and get the motor turned off

m4a1mustang · 02-06-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

my installer said it was a blown line, but i suspect it was not fully attached... again, not the GTM kit, but lesson learned is to use the highest quality components and 3x check fittings when it comes to the oiling system... the pump on this car has a very high throughput and moves a lot of oil in short order in order to keep the upper end of the motor cool... so when these sorts of things happen, you have very little time to react and get the motor turned off

Seems to me like an oil pressure gauge is a definite must.

I am planning on building my own kit and will be using the aeroquip socketless hoses.

FuszNissan · 02-06-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

Did any of the engine oil cover the Stillen air filters? The G3 is pretty much proven to provide gains. How long have you had it on?

Did you reset the ECU?

fstrnldr · 02-06-2010, 11:12 AM

i'm not going to say this was the original posters problem ( i don't know nearly enough about the product, or install to even guess), but this brought up a good reminder. When you guys do the installs on these kits, the hoses MUST have some slack in them. The engine is not solid mounted to the chassis so as the engine moves under down shifts, and up shifts, it will pull on the hoses if they are too tight and rigidly mounted to the sub frame. That is probably one of the few ways i could see there being enough force to yank a hose end off of a JIC hose assembly like that. Assuming it was properly assembled of course.

travisjb · 02-06-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Seems to me like an oil pressure gauge is a definite must.

I am planning on building my own kit and will be using the aeroquip socketless hoses.

Definitely on the gauge... I'm using a spa dual water/oil temp gauge in place of the clock... and for those that haven't seen it, check out Lou's TT build thread and look for the pics of his new gauges!

02-05-2010, 11:23 PM	#32 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	btw, what clued you in? did you see the oil on the street or did you see the oil light come on on the panel? how long before you cut off the motor? just curious... not a lot of time between the engine running out of oil and the thing ceasing up in a really bad way - something I unfortunately learned the hard way! and for what it's worth, i agree, GTM should replace your hoses and with a different part... that's just part of being in the biz - they know it __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-06-2010, 12:46 AM	#35 (permalink)
TARDCORE Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 410 Drives: 2010 Solid Red 370Z Rep Power: 17	The Z is fine. Its very dirty and I dont think ima spend the $100 to get it pressure washed but everything runs ok. Just got back from a late night drive and it seems normal, my butt dyno doesnt approve of the Stillen G3. I can see what your saying about owning a Z. Im single and Im gonna stay that way, im 22, I have been a border patrol agent for 3 years and I work hard, outside in heat, rain, and cold weather, I dont get to sit inside a building all day long. I know how lucky I am to own a Z but I wasnt handed the dam thing for free. I can afford to drive a c6 vette, shoulda bought a c6 vette, should be driving a c6 vette tomorrow to work. Well I am not and thats the lesson I learned, patience. All the bs about the user install lol its plumbing connect part A to part B. The hardest part was the cooler itself; trying to figure out where to mount the thing. Regaurdless of everyones opinions, mine will stay the same. Z is a great fun car but it has its flaws like every other car on the market. Not knocking it at all, I still drive it, still defend it, I just want to get rid of it. __________________ XBL:EVENTYDE Last edited by TARDCORE; 02-06-2010 at 12:58 AM.

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fstrnldr Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 170 Drives: Canyonero Rep Power: 17	i'm not going to say this was the original posters problem ( i don't know nearly enough about the product, or install to even guess), but this brought up a good reminder. When you guys do the installs on these kits, the hoses MUST have some slack in them. The engine is not solid mounted to the chassis so as the engine moves under down shifts, and up shifts, it will pull on the hoses if they are too tight and rigidly mounted to the sub frame. That is probably one of the few ways i could see there being enough force to yank a hose end off of a JIC hose assembly like that. Assuming it was properly assembled of course.