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Originally Posted by The Z Philes My question is what does installing an oil cooler do to a warranty? I would guess that would depend on what work your having

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Old 05-09-2019, 04:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My question is what does installing an oil cooler do to a warranty?
I would guess that would depend on what work your having warranted. Same as changing the exhaust, the intakes, tuning it...
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My question is what does installing an oil cooler do to a warranty?
Not a damn thing unless you fùck up the install...
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An oil cooler is just a big heatsink for the oil. Setrab core is just a higher quality heatsink - cheap ones can get punctured by a rock while driving, which will really ruin your day.

The thermostatic sandwich plate closes when temps are cool and opens when temps heat up. This helps the oil in the engine heat up faster after a cold start than if it were being pumped through the oil cooler. The block off plate basically is a poor man's thermostat - thin piece of sheet metal and some hi-temp velco on the front of the oil cooler will do the trick - for when the cold winter air during casual driving is cooling off the oil too much.

The plate only shuts off the lines to the oil cooler - the filter is still working. That would a horrible design if not.

The oil pump is what moves engine oil through the oil filter. The oil cooler doesn't turn on and off. When you plumb in an oil cooler to the system, it just gives the oil another path to go. The thermostat controls that path and opens it at a certain temperature.
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An oil cooler is just a big heatsink for the oil. Setrab core is just a higher quality heatsink - cheap ones can get punctured by a rock while driving, which will really ruin your day.

The thermostatic sandwich plate closes when temps are cool and opens when temps heat up. This helps the oil in the engine heat up faster after a cold start than if it were being pumped through the oil cooler. The block off plate basically is a poor man's thermostat - thin piece of sheet metal and some hi-temp velco on the front of the oil cooler will do the trick - for when the cold winter air during casual driving is cooling off the oil too much.

The plate only shuts off the lines to the oil cooler - the filter is still working. That would a horrible design if not.

The oil pump is what moves engine oil through the oil filter. The oil cooler doesn't turn on and off. When you plumb in an oil cooler to the system, it just gives the oil another path to go. The thermostat controls that path and opens it at a certain temperature.
So I don't need a block off plate being that I'm going to purchase the Thermo Plate, yeah? So pretty much this Thermo Plate just controls oil temp and without it, I'd be fu'cked? Also do I really need to mock up a "block off plate" or can I live without it? Lol. Also during this install, I don't need to remove my stock Oil Cooler do I? Lemme know. Thanks
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So I don't need a block off plate being that I'm going to purchase the Thermo Plate, yeah? So pretty much this Thermo Plate just controls oil temp and without it, I'd be fu'cked? Also do I really need to mock up a "block off plate" or can I live without it? Lol. Also during this install, I don't need to remove my stock Oil Cooler do I? Lemme know. Thanks
Block off plate can literally be lines of duct tape that you put on the front of your oil cooler during the winter. Thermo plate stops oil from flowing unimpeded to the cooler before your engine is warm enough... so basically yes. And yes you keep your stock oil cooler on the car

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Block off plate can literally be lines of duct tape that you put on the front of your oil cooler during the winter. Thermo plate stops oil from flowing unimpeded to the cooler before your engine is warm enough... so basically yes. And yes you keep your stock oil cooler on the car

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Lines of Duct Tape lmaoo no way. I was picturing a metal cover BOLTING on some random spot in front of the Cooler haha. Is there any images of people who have covered them? Just so I have an idea. My main question is, DO I NEED to cover the cooler? :/ also If I do cover the oil cooler, I just simply remove it in the Spring?

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Block off plate can literally be lines of duct tape that you put on the front of your oil cooler during the winter. Thermo plate stops oil from flowing unimpeded to the cooler before your engine is warm enough... so basically yes. And yes you keep your stock oil cooler on the car

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Nevermind now I see what this "Block off Plate" is lol. Some nice sheet metal and Velcro! Someone else told me about this in this thread, took me this long to figure it out
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Imagine a super-thin sheet of aluminum or steel the height and width of the oil cooler. Imagine it flush against the front of the oil cooler. Then imagine it being held onto the cooler with duct tape lol
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Imagine a super-thin sheet of aluminum or steel the height and width of the oil cooler. Imagine it flush against the front of the oil cooler. Then imagine it being held onto the cooler with duct tape lol
Yeahhh seen it haha. Thanks!
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Yeahhh seen it haha. Thanks!
Serious question. How old are you and what do you do for a living? Trying to figure out a couple of things. Like your mechanical back ground. Because some of the terms you are having a hard time with. If we know. Might be easier to explain some things.
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Serious question. How old are you and what do you do for a living? Trying to figure out a couple of things. Like your mechanical back ground. Because some of the terms you are having a hard time with. If we know. Might be easier to explain some things.
23, Auto Tech. If I don't understand some words it's only because I've been taught or learned to say it differently or I may have never heard of it such as a "Block off Plate". I'm not an A tech if you wanna know haha, nowhere near it, but yeah, like they're terms where I have no clue of wtf it is, until I see it and say "Oh ok its such and such". Nah I'm sayin? For example someone came up to me talking about his engine cradle is rusted out. I'm like wtf is that? He points and says, "that". I'm like " You mean a fu'cking subframe??" Hes like yeahhh same thing.. Like calling it an engine cradle will mean that entire piece is physically holding the engine nothing else but I can drop the SUBFRAME/ENGINE CRADLE and the motor will still be intact. You say "Rocker Cover" I say "Valve Cover" so that's where I'm getting at. Just not used to other terms of what I usually know.
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23, Auto Tech. If I don't understand some words it's only because I've been taught or learned to say it differently or I may have never heard of it such as a "Block off Plate". I'm not an A tech if you wanna know haha, nowhere near it, but yeah, like they're terms where I have no clue of wtf it is, until I see it and say "Oh ok its such and such". Nah I'm sayin? For example someone came up to me talking about his engine cradle is rusted out. I'm like wtf is that? He points and says, "that". I'm like " You mean a fu'cking subframe??" Hes like yeahhh same thing.. Like calling it an engine cradle will mean that entire piece is physically holding the engine nothing else but I can drop the SUBFRAME/ENGINE CRADLE and the motor will still be intact. You say "Rocker Cover" I say "Valve Cover" so that's where I'm getting at. Just not used to other terms of what I usually know.
Well you definitely know what questions to ask, which is a lot more than I can say when I start a project lol

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23, Auto Tech. If I don't understand some words it's only because I've been taught or learned to say it differently or I may have never heard of it such as a "Block off Plate". I'm not an A tech if you wanna know haha, nowhere near it, but yeah, like they're terms where I have no clue of wtf it is, until I see it and say "Oh ok its such and such". Nah I'm sayin? For example someone came up to me talking about his engine cradle is rusted out. I'm like wtf is that? He points and says, "that". I'm like " You mean a fu'cking subframe??" Hes like yeahhh same thing.. Like calling it an engine cradle will mean that entire piece is physically holding the engine nothing else but I can drop the SUBFRAME/ENGINE CRADLE and the motor will still be intact. You say "Rocker Cover" I say "Valve Cover" so that's where I'm getting at. Just not used to other terms of what I usually know.
Terminology can kill you real quick. Sometimes, it's like speaking a different language. For me. Going from steam turbine ( old school) to gas turbine (new school) . Two different words mean the same thing, the same piece of equipment. Best part, the damn pieces of equipment sit side by side. They tell you to work on piece X, but mean piece Y. You better check to make sure. If not. It could kill you.
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