DIY: Oil Cooler (scratch built install, lottsa pics).....>.

Billy830 · 07-30-2011, 07:43 AM

From the beginning of the oil line problems with the oil cooler I immediatelly advocated crimped fittings so that there would never be a problem. Have been running oil cooler for over a year now and no problems. For $7.50 a fitting it was a no brainer for me.

MattP725 · 08-24-2011, 09:13 PM

Can anyone tell me what size the fitting is coming out of the sandwhich plate? I know the hose end is 10an obviously but what is the other side. I think the used setup I bought has the wrong size because it doesn't thread in very far... I'm pretty sure that isn't normal. I'll have to order new ones.

ChrisSlicks · 08-25-2011, 06:24 AM

The Mocal sandwich plate uses BSP fittings, someone may have attempted to use an NPT fitting which will work but will get hung up halfway in. If it isn't leaking I would be tempted to leave it.

The fitting you likely need is 1/2" BSP to -10 AN. There is also a high-flow version of the sandwich plate that uses 22mm fittings but I haven't seen anyone use that one yet. Of course this is assuming that it is a Mocal.

MattP725 · 08-25-2011, 09:05 AM

Yes it is... I'm not very comfortable and I am thinking it is NPT not BSP because it is blue (not typical for mocal fittings) and barely fits in. Doesn't go far enough that I would feel comfortable. Guess I'll be parking the Z for the weekend.

jborsos · 08-25-2011, 10:07 AM

Matt,

The fitting you need is a MOC-BM810A. These are sold as a pair MOC-2BM810A. They are in stock at Racer Part Wholesale. Racer Parts Wholesale - Racing Parts, Safety Equipment & Motorcycle Accessories
Here is a direct link:
- Mocal 1/2 BSP x -10 fitting

Thanks,
Jack Borsos
RPW

MattP725 · 08-25-2011, 09:11 PM

Thanks jborsos I actually ordered it today before I even saw your post. You work there right? You should have an order for me.

jborsos · 08-26-2011, 07:41 AM

Yes, I'm the General Manager at RPW. I'm not in the office this morning but if you've placed the order I'm sure it has been processed.

Thank you for the order.
Jack

MattP725 · 08-30-2011, 01:22 PM

Yep should be delivered today! Great service (sight unseen of course) and prices.

roy'sz · 09-06-2011, 12:07 AM

Is there any specified torque range for torquing the fittings to the mocal adapter? Or the adapter to the engine? I got my parts from B.A.T. fittings in florida, who work in line with mocal. Just curious if anyone knows any more of the specs.
+1 matt witht he clear hose idea for insulation/noise reduction on the hoses. Man that is a cheap/dope idea, definitely goin to do that instead of heat shrink.

FastJew · 09-10-2011, 07:39 AM

mattp725 - The setup has held up for almost a year now with no issues and no worries hitting a fitting on our crappy Texas roads. If you have not already finished your install I highly recommend this setup.

markthomas69 · 12-03-2013, 02:09 PM

I found this link and wanted to share.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...structions.pdf

joebeast · 10-27-2011, 12:23 AM

NICE! i have a noob question, are the number of rows make a big difference? Also, how come the Mocal Reusable 45 Degree Hose End is not listed on the website? thanks

jborsos · 10-28-2011, 07:30 AM

joebeast,

We have the 45 degree fitting by Aeroquip in stock. Currently the price is a bit better. I'll get the Mocal 45 degree online by the end of the day if you want that brand. It will be next week before we have any in stock though. Functionally they install and perform the same.
Reusable Fittings - Aeroquip 45 Degree Reusable Elbow Fitting

Thank you for your interest.

Jack Borsos
General Manager
Racer Parts Wholesale

bigrob126 · 11-28-2011, 09:05 AM

A couple of things I was curious about. Is there any better way to hook up the lines?.....meaning which is a feed and which a return and any diff where on the cooler I would hook them? Also, does any oil drain back into the pan from the cooler and or lines?.....making my dipstick reading totally inaccurate?

Thanks!!

roy'sz · 11-28-2011, 11:50 AM

Couple of ideas here, especially for the big rob. If you get the kit from z1 (its a really good kit) the hoses are routed from the frong drivers side by the radiator. It follows (or you can zip tie it) the crash bar and around the windshield washer fluid container. You have to trim off a little bit of the air shrouding (it shows in their instructions manual) to get it to route to the oil filter location. Also it doesn't matter which way you would route the hoses because the cooler will flow eithe way, BUT Z1 has one hose longer than the other. If you are referencing the car standing at the front, the longer hose fits on the drivers side and the shorter on the passenger. The difference in length is about 5 or 6 inches. Some oil will drain back into your pan which is just "line pressure. Your oil filters all come with a drain back valve so the increase in what you see in oil will not be too drastic. Make sure you fill the cooler up with oil before putting the lines in. hope this helps a little

08-25-2011, 06:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	The Mocal sandwich plate uses BSP fittings, someone may have attempted to use an NPT fitting which will work but will get hung up halfway in. If it isn't leaking I would be tempted to leave it. The fitting you likely need is 1/2" BSP to -10 AN. There is also a high-flow version of the sandwich plate that uses 22mm fittings but I haven't seen anyone use that one yet. Of course this is assuming that it is a Mocal. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

09-10-2011, 07:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
FastJew Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 58 Drives: 2009/370z/TS/6MT Rep Power: 16	mattp725 - The setup has held up for almost a year now with no issues and no worries hitting a fitting on our crappy Texas roads. If you have not already finished your install I highly recommend this setup. __________________ 09 370Z - FI TDX CBE/Stillen G3/FI HFC's are next 06 Xterra OR - 3" SL - 33" Pro-Comp MT's - Shrockworks Sliders & Rear Bumper/Tire Carrier - Stillen Cross Drilled Rotors/Pads

12-03-2013, 02:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
markthomas69 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Little Elm, TX Posts: 66 Drives: 2010 370Z Red, auto Rep Power: 13	Aeroquip hoes and fitting install instruction page. I found this link and wanted to share. http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...structions.pdf Cbtech likes this. __________________ Beluga catback exhaust and Y-Pipe. Sport brakes upgrade. 24 row oil cooler. Battery relocated to the trunk.

11-28-2011, 09:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
bigrob126 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 134 Drives: 2009 370Z Sport Auto Rep Power: 15	A couple of things I was curious about. Is there any better way to hook up the lines?.....meaning which is a feed and which a return and any diff where on the cooler I would hook them? Also, does any oil drain back into the pan from the cooler and or lines?.....making my dipstick reading totally inaccurate? Thanks!! __________________ Rob

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07-30-2011, 07:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Billy830 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Port Saint Lucie Fl. Age: 78 Posts: 31 Drives: 370Z Mag Black 6sp m Rep Power: 16	From the beginning of the oil line problems with the oil cooler I immediatelly advocated crimped fittings so that there would never be a problem. Have been running oil cooler for over a year now and no problems. For $7.50 a fitting it was a no brainer for me.

08-24-2011, 09:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 18	Can anyone tell me what size the fitting is coming out of the sandwhich plate? I know the hose end is 10an obviously but what is the other side. I think the used setup I bought has the wrong size because it doesn't thread in very far... I'm pretty sure that isn't normal. I'll have to order new ones.

08-25-2011, 09:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 18	Yes it is... I'm not very comfortable and I am thinking it is NPT not BSP because it is blue (not typical for mocal fittings) and barely fits in. Doesn't go far enough that I would feel comfortable. Guess I'll be parking the Z for the weekend.

08-25-2011, 10:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
jborsos Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Frankin, IN Posts: 9 Drives: 2011 VW Jetta Rep Power: 16	Matt, The fitting you need is a MOC-BM810A. These are sold as a pair MOC-2BM810A. They are in stock at Racer Part Wholesale. Racer Parts Wholesale - Racing Parts, Safety Equipment & Motorcycle Accessories Here is a direct link: - Mocal 1/2 BSP x -10 fitting Thanks, Jack Borsos RPW

08-25-2011, 09:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 18	Thanks jborsos I actually ordered it today before I even saw your post. You work there right? You should have an order for me.

08-26-2011, 07:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
jborsos Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Frankin, IN Posts: 9 Drives: 2011 VW Jetta Rep Power: 16	Yes, I'm the General Manager at RPW. I'm not in the office this morning but if you've placed the order I'm sure it has been processed. Thank you for the order. Jack

08-30-2011, 01:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 18	Yep should be delivered today! Great service (sight unseen of course) and prices.

09-06-2011, 12:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Is there any specified torque range for torquing the fittings to the mocal adapter? Or the adapter to the engine? I got my parts from B.A.T. fittings in florida, who work in line with mocal. Just curious if anyone knows any more of the specs. +1 matt witht he clear hose idea for insulation/noise reduction on the hoses. Man that is a cheap/dope idea, definitely goin to do that instead of heat shrink.

10-27-2011, 12:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
joebeast Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houston Posts: 5 Drives: g37s Rep Power: 15	NICE! i have a noob question, are the number of rows make a big difference? Also, how come the Mocal Reusable 45 Degree Hose End is not listed on the website? thanks

10-28-2011, 07:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
jborsos Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Frankin, IN Posts: 9 Drives: 2011 VW Jetta Rep Power: 16	joebeast, We have the 45 degree fitting by Aeroquip in stock. Currently the price is a bit better. I'll get the Mocal 45 degree online by the end of the day if you want that brand. It will be next week before we have any in stock though. Functionally they install and perform the same. Reusable Fittings - Aeroquip 45 Degree Reusable Elbow Fitting Thank you for your interest. Jack Borsos General Manager Racer Parts Wholesale

11-28-2011, 11:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 16	Couple of ideas here, especially for the big rob. If you get the kit from z1 (its a really good kit) the hoses are routed from the frong drivers side by the radiator. It follows (or you can zip tie it) the crash bar and around the windshield washer fluid container. You have to trim off a little bit of the air shrouding (it shows in their instructions manual) to get it to route to the oil filter location. Also it doesn't matter which way you would route the hoses because the cooler will flow eithe way, BUT Z1 has one hose longer than the other. If you are referencing the car standing at the front, the longer hose fits on the drivers side and the shorter on the passenger. The difference in length is about 5 or 6 inches. Some oil will drain back into your pan which is just "line pressure. Your oil filters all come with a drain back valve so the increase in what you see in oil will not be too drastic. Make sure you fill the cooler up with oil before putting the lines in. hope this helps a little