Brake bleed clear tubing, inside diameter???

Baer383 · 05-20-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishey

First, You have had no response to my earlier post and saying you are "Factory Trained" is a bit laughable. No manufacture recommends or endorses the method you have outlined feel free to seek Nissan's factory manuals for reference.

Second, Automotive Service Excellence (ASE) and the National Automotive Technicians Education Foundation (NATEF) both specifically recommend the factory method and gravity bleeding is not the factory method and its not a method recognized or taught by ASE or NATEF.

Your advise is not good advise gravity bleeding is a poor way to bleed your brake system. Gravity bleeding can work but its not the best way or a recommended way to bleed brakes. It does not have the flow or pressure to ensure consistent and reliable results.

Your Friend
Ron

Factory Trained, ASE Master Technician #ASE-5378-2655, Past Professional Car Chief (Doran Racing), Current Shop Owner/Operator www.facebook.com/metricgarage.net

I have done mine this way and some of guys that track there cars are also doing which takes about 20 minutes ,and if you want to discuss ASE cert. and I-car cert.(for Autobody repair) pm me you're fax number and Ill see about getting them down off the wall and fax you a copy.

And the only advantage to a gravity bleed is no chance of introducing air in the system.

GaleForce · 05-19-2013, 11:23 AM

NS370Z · 05-19-2013, 12:21 PM

Holly crap, settle down guys.

Never in my wildest dreams would I envision a simple question turning to this. I live in a somewhat rural area with not a lot of selection so I just thought I'd ask before I went looking. I was thinking of getting the Phoenix Systems Bleeding Brakes, Brake Bleeding Tools, Brake Fluid Testing You push the old fluid and air up into the M/C. As soon as they email me back and confirm they can ship to Canada via USPS I might just go that route. Thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate it but try to keep the personal insults in check.

SouthArk370Z · 05-19-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z

Holly crap, settle down guys.

Never in my wildest dreams would I envision a simple question turning to this. ...

Welcome to The370Z.

I have a lot of respect for Baer383. From what I can tell from his previous posts he is very knowledgeable about cars and it would be unwise to ignore his advice. But I think he is going a bit overboard in this case. I believe that he's a good guy and that he is only trying to watch out for other DIYers, but (much like myself

) he is rather out-spoken and doesn't mind ruffling some feathers. I like that.

dastaco · 05-20-2013, 09:35 AM

Just wondering because I haven't seen it addressed..

Is there any benefit to gravity bleeding other than saving time?

fuct · 05-20-2013, 11:17 AM

i used the motive power bleeder for mine. very very very minimal mess, and easy as pie.

djtodd · 05-20-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct

i used the motive power bleeder for mine. very very very minimal mess, and easy as pie.

^ qft

fuct · 05-20-2013, 02:38 PM

qft = queefed

SouthArk370Z · 05-20-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct

qft = queefed

Here's what I found. Seems to fit.

thekinn · 05-21-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z

Anyone know for certain what inside diameter clear tubing I'd need to fit snugly to do a brake bleed task.

heh.. it is pretty cheap stuff to buy. I just picked some up - never paid attention to the actual inner diameter - just got what looks small enough for a snug fit on the bleeder. It happens to be .170 in. Something around that size should be good.

I'd love to see a 20min video of the 'other' method... start to finish. and a nice close-up of your caliper paint - Baer.

Baer383 · 05-21-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thekinn

I'd love to see a 20min video of the 'other' method... start to finish. and a nice close-up of your caliper paint - Baer.

I'm sure you would like to watch 20 min of brake fluid running out of calipers,next time your in Georgia you can see mine and SPOHN he also does it this way.

Also once you guys learn the calipers are powercoated then you won't make statement like this.

kenchan · 05-21-2013, 07:01 PM

i just like my work to be clean. nothing against brake fluid getting on calipers but then, i dont want that dripping onto my wheels later if i miss a spot.

Baer383 · 05-21-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i just like my work to be clean. nothing against brake fluid getting on calipers but then, i dont want that dripping onto my wheels later if i miss a spot.

Cleanliness is next to Godliness don't be an atheist.

chops · 05-23-2013, 12:57 AM

wow...dont do a gravity bleed please. brake fluid is nasty stuff. you dont want to even leave it on your skin for too long.

anyway, ive used a 3/8" vinyl tubing (2bucks from the hardware store) and an empty bottle of water with a hole cut in the cap in the past with great results

SPOHN · 05-23-2013, 03:33 PM

I gravity bleed all the time. I assure you my brake pedal feel is firmer than any other method that I've tried. PERIOD. All this guys that use these pressure methods seem to have to keep redoing them frequently at the track. Me, never.

I could care less what A factory trained ASE guy is taught. These are the same guys that work at dealerships and SUCK. Haven't any of you read the 1 million horror stories. There's a reason. Just because its not taught or in the manual doesn't mean this method can't be done. There's more than one way to skin a cat. You do your way. Ill do mine. Gravity bleed is proven. I'm just glad your ASE skills are not charging us bookwork for you advice. It would of been five hours for your 10 sec's of service.

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dastaco Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 348 Drives: Questionably Rep Power: 16	Just wondering because I haven't seen it addressed.. Is there any benefit to gravity bleeding other than saving time? __________________

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fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 26	i used the motive power bleeder for mine. very very very minimal mess, and easy as pie. djtodd likes this.

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chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 23	wow...dont do a gravity bleed please. brake fluid is nasty stuff. you dont want to even leave it on your skin for too long. anyway, ive used a 3/8" vinyl tubing (2bucks from the hardware store) and an empty bottle of water with a hole cut in the cap in the past with great results roy'sz likes this.

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SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 47 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 223	I gravity bleed all the time. I assure you my brake pedal feel is firmer than any other method that I've tried. PERIOD. All this guys that use these pressure methods seem to have to keep redoing them frequently at the track. Me, never. I could care less what A factory trained ASE guy is taught. These are the same guys that work at dealerships and SUCK. Haven't any of you read the 1 million horror stories. There's a reason. Just because its not taught or in the manual doesn't mean this method can't be done. There's more than one way to skin a cat. You do your way. Ill do mine. Gravity bleed is proven. I'm just glad your ASE skills are not charging us bookwork for you advice. It would of been five hours for your 10 sec's of service. kenchan and logenl7 like this. __________________ Last edited by SPOHN; 05-23-2013 at 03:37 PM.

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NS370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Milky Way Posts: 249 Drives: Red Corvette C7 Rep Power: 15	Holly crap, settle down guys. Never in my wildest dreams would I envision a simple question turning to this. I live in a somewhat rural area with not a lot of selection so I just thought I'd ask before I went looking. I was thinking of getting the Phoenix Systems Bleeding Brakes, Brake Bleeding Tools, Brake Fluid Testing You push the old fluid and air up into the M/C. As soon as they email me back and confirm they can ship to Canada via USPS I might just go that route. Thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate it but try to keep the personal insults in check.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	i just like my work to be clean. nothing against brake fluid getting on calipers but then, i dont want that dripping onto my wheels later if i miss a spot.

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