Who wants Titanium pad shims the the AP Racing brakes?

ChrisSlicks · 07-10-2012, 08:09 PM

This isn't a group buy, this is a thread to see what kind of interest there is in a manufacturer producing titanium pad spacer shims for the AP Racing front calipers (pad shape CP7040D61 / Hawk 586).

The purpose of the shims is to reduce heat transfer from the very hot pad and rotor (1100F+ by my measurements) to the temperature sensitive brake caliper and fluid. From talking to other racers they apparently can be very effective in preventing the brake fluid from boiling and maybe even keeping your piston dust boots intact.

If you have the AP Racing brake kit and are interesting in these shims just reply to the thread so we can get a head count. The more interest there is, the more likely he is to produce them quickly. I am getting things started by fronting the setup fee for a new design and sending them a used set of pads for sizing verification. No pricing available yet, but I would guesstimate they will be around the $100 mark for the AP front axle (0.5mm thick titanium) based on approximate size.

Again, I'm not selling anything or organizing a group buy. This is simply for the purpose of gathering interest and support.

For those of you that have the sport brakes, they already have shims available.
Hard Brakes - Titanium Brake Heat Shields for 370Z Akebono

Edit:
Shims are now available for the CP7040!
Hard Brakes - Titanium Brake Heat Shields for CP7040

travisjb · 07-11-2012, 09:09 PM

I'm in, no question

Ecain18 · 07-11-2012, 09:24 PM

Im in as well. I have a g37 but same setup

ChrisSlicks · 07-11-2012, 09:26 PM

Yep G37's with the AP kit are welcome as well

Ecain18 · 07-11-2012, 09:32 PM

Awesome. Just shoot me a pm when they are ready im not on here too often. More on myg37 but ill try to check in

ChrisSlicks · 07-11-2012, 09:39 PM

Timeframe minimum right now is 4-8 weeks since it is a new design, I'll send you a message when they are ready. If we can get 6+ people on board it will be closer to the short side as they will make it a priority.

Thanks guys!

Megan370z · 07-12-2012, 04:52 PM

Im in for the front 6-piston & rear !

Fly1 Motorsports · 07-12-2012, 05:16 PM

I'd be interested for sure.

B&W_Evader · 07-12-2012, 08:13 PM

Why do you guys think this is a good idea?
Titanium (99% pure) thermal conductivity = 12.65 BTU / (hr-ft-F)
304 SST thermal conductivity = 8.09

Seems to me SST would be better performance and price.

ref:
Thermal Properties of Metals, Conductivity, Thermal Expansion, Specific Heat - Engineers Edge

ChrisSlicks · 07-12-2012, 08:21 PM

The manufacturer offers stainless as well for most parts, however it is twice as heat conductive vs their titanium alloy 6AL-4V (6% aluminum, 4% vanadium).

I say titanium for short but it is not really, it is a heat resistant alloy.
Titanium alloy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

B&W_Evader · 07-12-2012, 08:28 PM

Ah, that makes more sense...

That one comes out to 3.87

SPOHN · 07-12-2012, 09:03 PM

I'm in. AP front only.

ChrisSlicks · 07-12-2012, 10:13 PM

Excellent. Initially I think this will be front only, or at least front will be the priority.

Rusty · 07-13-2012, 09:42 AM

Count me in too.

mdxj · 07-13-2012, 11:20 AM

Im in. Wont be able to hit the track till the fall but these will be nice in the summer heat!

07-10-2012, 08:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Who wants Titanium pad shims the the AP Racing brakes? This isn't a group buy, this is a thread to see what kind of interest there is in a manufacturer producing titanium pad spacer shims for the AP Racing front calipers (pad shape CP7040D61 / Hawk 586). The purpose of the shims is to reduce heat transfer from the very hot pad and rotor (1100F+ by my measurements) to the temperature sensitive brake caliper and fluid. From talking to other racers they apparently can be very effective in preventing the brake fluid from boiling and maybe even keeping your piston dust boots intact. If you have the AP Racing brake kit and are interesting in these shims just reply to the thread so we can get a head count. The more interest there is, the more likely he is to produce them quickly. I am getting things started by fronting the setup fee for a new design and sending them a used set of pads for sizing verification. No pricing available yet, but I would guesstimate they will be around the $100 mark for the AP front axle (0.5mm thick titanium) based on approximate size. Again, I'm not selling anything or organizing a group buy. This is simply for the purpose of gathering interest and support. For those of you that have the sport brakes, they already have shims available. Hard Brakes - Titanium Brake Heat Shields for 370Z Akebono Edit: Shims are now available for the CP7040! Hard Brakes - Titanium Brake Heat Shields for CP7040 __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms Last edited by ChrisSlicks; 09-26-2012 at 02:35 PM.

07-11-2012, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I'm in, no question __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

07-11-2012, 09:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Yep G37's with the AP kit are welcome as well __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-11-2012, 09:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Timeframe minimum right now is 4-8 weeks since it is a new design, I'll send you a message when they are ready. If we can get 6+ people on board it will be closer to the short side as they will make it a priority. Thanks guys! __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-12-2012, 04:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Megan370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,156 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 23	Im in for the front 6-piston & rear ! __________________ Megan Journal Click Me ....................One Man Team Motorsport Click Me

07-11-2012, 09:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ecain18 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hummelsown, pa Posts: 107 Drives: 2008 g37 k51 6mt Rep Power: 12	Im in as well. I have a g37 but same setup

07-11-2012, 09:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ecain18 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hummelsown, pa Posts: 107 Drives: 2008 g37 k51 6mt Rep Power: 12	Awesome. Just shoot me a pm when they are ready im not on here too often. More on myg37 but ill try to check in

07-12-2012, 05:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fly1 Motorsports Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,094 Drives: PW 370Z 7AT/Tr/Sp/Nv Rep Power: 18	I'd be interested for sure.

07-12-2012, 08:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 386	Why do you guys think this is a good idea? Titanium (99% pure) thermal conductivity = 12.65 BTU / (hr-ft-F) 304 SST thermal conductivity = 8.09 Seems to me SST would be better performance and price. ref: Thermal Properties of Metals, Conductivity, Thermal Expansion, Specific Heat - Engineers Edge __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

07-12-2012, 08:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	The manufacturer offers stainless as well for most parts, however it is twice as heat conductive vs their titanium alloy 6AL-4V (6% aluminum, 4% vanadium). I say titanium for short but it is not really, it is a heat resistant alloy. Titanium alloy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-12-2012, 08:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 386	Ah, that makes more sense... That one comes out to 3.87 __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

07-12-2012, 09:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I'm in. AP front only. __________________

07-12-2012, 10:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Excellent. Initially I think this will be front only, or at least front will be the priority. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-13-2012, 09:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,867 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	Count me in too. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

07-13-2012, 11:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
mdxj Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: OKC Posts: 290 Drives: 09 Nismo, 98 Jeep XJ Rep Power: 13	Im in. Wont be able to hit the track till the fall but these will be nice in the summer heat! __________________ '09 370 base - RIP '09 370 Nismo - New track car

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