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Originally Posted by roplusbee Ron is just all over it. i was reading about introducing vents in the NISMO bumper. I'll have to take a look at yours when you

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Old 03-24-2012, 12:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ron is just all over it. i was reading about introducing vents in the NISMO bumper. I'll have to take a look at yours when you are don Ron!
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Old 03-24-2012, 07:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ron is just all over it. i was reading about introducing vents in the NISMO bumper. I'll have to take a look at yours when you are don Ron!
Lol I'm not doing this.. yet
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Ron, that looks similar to what my engineers and I drew up yesterday. We still have the Nismo BRE 370Z here so we'll start playing with this soon. We may need a production car if there is a local one willing to stop by for a few hours one day? The BRE 370 did not start its life as a Nismo so I'll want to make sure that whatever we do will work on a truly production car.
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Can't wait to get my kit. I should be able to put it on next weekend. If it gets sent out when they said. But no biggie. The guys at Stillen were a pleasure to talk to.
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that is awesome, I would volunteer for it but I'm not local Keep us posted! Pics of said drawing?
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this price seems high to me. you get some bent (simple bends) sheet metal and orange hose. this would be pretty easy to duplicate in a metal shop/home shop with just a manual hand brake and a wire feed welder. cool product, great job, but the price point seems a little too much. $100-$150 seems more like it.
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this price seems high to me. you get some bent (simple bends) sheet metal and orange hose. this would be pretty easy to duplicate in a metal shop/home shop with just a manual hand brake and a wire feed welder. cool product, great job, but the price point seems a little too much. $100-$150 seems more like it.
I'd very much like it to be free, but that's just not reality. In this case, the whole is equal to more than the sum of the parts. For over 3 years, no one has come out with a brake cooling kit for this car. The simple matter of fact is that making the replacement splash guard that mounts on the hub and has a hose flange isn't so straight forward. If you can do it yourself, go for it. Until some other companies come out with similar kits, Stillen can charge whatever they like. $295 is reasonable for anyone that truly needs it. Would I like it to be $150? Absolutely, and I would have ordered already. For now, I'll ponder it a while longer and maybe order in a month or two if I think I really need it.
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I'd very much like it to be free, but that's just not reality. In this case, the whole is equal to more than the sum of the parts. For over 3 years, no one has come out with a brake cooling kit for this car. The simple matter of fact is that making the replacement splash guard that mounts on the hub and has a hose flange isn't so straight forward. If you can do it yourself, go for it. Until some other companies come out with similar kits, Stillen can charge whatever they like. $295 is reasonable for anyone that truly needs it. Would I like it to be $150? Absolutely, and I would have ordered already. For now, I'll ponder it a while longer and maybe order in a month or two if I think I really need it.
The cost is definitely more than the sum of the parts. This is a low quantity production unit, they are only going to sell one brake duct kit for every 100 cold air intakes so it only makes sense that the price is a little higher so they can re-coup the engineering costs. If you had a race shop custom engineer this for you it would be $1000, with 90% of the cost being time.

After speaking to the new brake manager Jim last August I strongly encouraged him to get the product off the back burner and into production as there was no one filling the need. I'm very happy that they did and I'll gladly pay the $300 for the kit. At the time I would have gladly paid $200 for the 2 hub backing plates and built the rest myself!
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^ +1 to that... you will spend a lot more doing a DIY that works to the same effect given the need for custom brackets etc, and may end up short of the temp benefit of the Stillen setup

Something else to think about... if you cook your rotors and they crack or warp, how much will that cost? If your brakes fade and you end up in a tire wall or worse, how much will that cost? I've done both, better for everyone else to avoid
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I'm not sure how big these things are.

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I think people with the Z1 oil cooler set up might have to re-run their oil lines on the passenger side if you want to install this brake cooling kit. I looked today and the area where the brake cooler hose runs from the facia into the wheel well, that's where you have to take out the plastic plate, is exactly the same location where the oil line runfor the Z1 oil cooler set up.

I have the Z1 oilcooler kit installed and I'm interested in the Stillen brake cooler kit, but I'll take some time to figure this one out before I hit "order" on the stillen site...
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Use something like the NISMO RC ducts, and I'll buy the kit.
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Use something like the NISMO RC ducts, and I'll buy the kit.
Another option for the Nismo folks is to use NACA style scoops attached to the under tray. You won't get quite as much airflow as it is a low pressure zone compared to the front fascia but it is better than nothing.

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In regards to some posts above: I've torn down all of this front area and spent hours thinking through how I would design a "good" brake duct kit for this car. It's hard, and so I still don't have ducting all the way to the rotors. Props to Stillen for releasing something. I ordered a set through Z1 yesterday, so I'll get to play with it soon.

Stillen: I didn't see anything in the product literature indicating the diameter of the tube and the end fittings. The stuff I've been working with to date has been 2.5 inch, but that's part of the reason I never reached the hub, it seems impossible to get a 2.5 opening to the inside there without closing off a chunk of it, and 2.5 inch hose doesn't play well in the wheel well either. Is this kit 2 inch, or even 1.5?
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My kit will be here Saturday. But I won't be able to get to it till next weekend.
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