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If you want to experiment with chassis stiffening feel, just unbolt your strut bar and drive around town. You WILL feel a difference!

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Old 09-24-2010, 08:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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If you want to experiment with chassis stiffening feel, just unbolt your strut bar and drive around town. You WILL feel a difference!
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If you want to experiment with chassis stiffening feel, just unbolt your strut bar and drive around town. You WILL feel a difference!
or drive a 5.0 around for a day.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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That's funny because its a lot stiffer than the Z.
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I'm not attacking you Jeff. There's just no way the car's turn-in at 30mph is any more crisp with or without that additional brace. I'm far from a track expert and I doubt I'd notice the difference of that support even driving as quick as I could on a track. If anyone would notice an improvement, I'd put money on the roadster owners. Convertibles in general are notorious for being less rigid, and you can feel chassis flex when you drive over uneven road surfaces (the car shudders, dash creaks, and you can feel twisting as the front tires go over a bump before the rear).

My post was more a general 'we give to much credence to mods' shout out. I have the mods listed in my signature while two good friends of mine have more stock 370Zs. When we autoX, our times are much more dependent on how we navigated the course as a driver than what small at best advantage I have over them with HFCs, CBE, spacers, and sways.

That being said...How much was the brace? I likey
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I agree and disagree with the points being discussed. From experience I can tell you that chassis stiffening mods can be actually quite dramatic even at low speed slalom style turns. For example, swaybars are something you can immediately notice after installing them even if you aren't doing time attack laps in a suburban neighborhood. Hell, I tripod going up driveways and gas stations. On the other hand, things like strutbars you can't really notice much, if at all, on the street because that requires a bit more stress to make a difference. I wouldn't doubt it though, if someone who tracks their car told me they feel a difference when taking offramps with their new strut bars.

Now... I've heard plenty of of people with GT spec ladder braces (on different cars) say that they do feel the car is more planted, predictable and consistent after than before. I've never installed a set myself so I can't comment on those specifically, but I wouldn't put it past someone with a good feel of their car to notice a difference with a chassis stiffening mod.

This is a mod I would definitely do, but I can't because of clearance. I like it though.

Jeff, if you can ask them if they wanna send one over to florida for some flogging
Thanks for the input RC. How much lower are you than stock?
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That's funny because its a lot stiffer than the Z.
thats what she said
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thats what she said
That is what she said.
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That is what she said.
wait do you mean she said 'thats what she said' or that is indeed what she said?
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That is what she verbally communicated.
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is making our cars as stiff as possible even a benifit?
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is making our cars as stiff as possible even a benifit?
You want the chassis to be rigid, especially if you are subjecting it to racing forces.

But making the suspension as stiff as possible does not always mean better performance. There's such a thing as too stiff and too soft. Go too stiff and you'll lose all your mechanical grip.
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yea, there is a happy medium between too stiff/rigid and not stiff/rigid enough, and although that depends on the circumstances (track/DD) it is usually somewhat firmer than stock.
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Looks like they would not interfere with one another.
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yea you're right, it looks like it would not interfere
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The LTH's don't drop very low either, so I think clearance would be fine.
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So it looks like the 4-point brace blocks the front jack point. Oops...
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