Competitors to KW V3 and who ran Greddy X KW

Eagle · 05-06-2019, 07:45 PM

KW V3's aren't even a track coilover. They're too soft from the factory, need to be rebuilt frequently and aren't all they're cracked up to be for the 370z.

I know you said you don't want BC but i've got friends tracking those on 350zs and 370zs with Swift springs and they're pretty happy with them.

Powertrix seem to be a pretty good budget coilover for street and some track use. I have a set of these on my Z31 300ZX.

Also there's a new company with an offering for the 370z called Annex Suspension. They actually rode with me in my 370z equipped with Mines Ohlins ESTA coilovers to get a feel for them so that they could engineer some of that into their design.

I know both the owners behind these two companies and the design/engineering philosophy behind their products. I highly recommend either of them as a budget coil over.

Stay away from Megan, Godspeed, Tein, KW and HKS, the feedback i've gotten from people about those are usually around quality, adjustability and a poor ride.

Rusty · 05-06-2019, 08:15 PM

4 way JRZ. Step up, and be a Baller.

$$$$$$

SPDKING · 05-06-2019, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle

KW V3's aren't even a track coilover. They're too soft from the factory, need to be rebuilt frequently and aren't all they're cracked up to be for the 370z.

I know you said you don't want BC but i've got friends tracking those on 350zs and 370zs with Swift springs and they're pretty happy with them.

Powertrix seem to be a pretty good budget coilover for street and some track use. I have a set of these on my Z31 300ZX.

Also there's a new company with an offering for the 370z called Annex Suspension. They actually rode with me in my 370z equipped with Mines Ohlins ESTA coilovers to get a feel for them so that they could engineer some of that into their design.

I know both the owners behind these two companies and the design/engineering philosophy behind their products. I highly recommend either of them as a budget coil over.

Stay away from Megan, Godspeed, Tein, KW and HKS, the feedback i've gotten from people about those are usually around quality, adjustability and a poor ride.

Annex is a new one. How was the ride? I do like how they do the dyno testing like the others, it shows they are actually putting in the work in testing to get a desired result.

Eagle · 05-07-2019, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SPDKING

Annex is a new one. How was the ride? I do like how they do the dyno testing like the others, it shows they are actually putting in the work in testing to get a desired result.

I havent personally been in a car with those coilovers but yeah they put a lot of work into dyno and road testing them. The head engineer really was going for an Ohlins like feel, best way I can describe it is compliant and pleasant on the streets and highways and stiff but in command in the twisties.

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Jv01jv01 · 05-07-2019, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle

I havent personally been in a car with those coilovers but yeah they put a lot of work into dyno and road testing them. The head engineer really was going for an Ohlins like feel, best way I can describe it is compliant and pleasant on the streets and highways and stiff but in command in the twisties.

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Not to be a drag to help op we need 1st hand experience with each coil over there are so many rumors and people bad mouthing certain brands for different reasons. I have personally had ,Megan cheap ones and there double adjustable ones,stance, kw v3, I’ve driven 370z with tein monoflex which are different from tein cheap line which is made in China and there monoflex comes from japan yes a little more money but those ride the nicest from the ones listed. the cheap by and the cheap Megan’s are the same body’s from a different company if you notice all the basic 1k coilovers all have 32 clicks those are all just diff colors of the same body. I’ll have to find the old info on shocks. It’s like girls you’re friend did not like her but you date here next month and you think she the best thing going. So there is a guy that races a gt3 12k for his shocks they get rebuilt twice a season there are people get a few years out of them you can go on and on not trying to start a war but we need consistent info and not here say . Jv

Eagle · 05-07-2019, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jv01jv01

Not to be a drag to help op we need 1st hand experience with each coil over there are so many rumors and people bad mouthing certain brands for different reasons. I have personally had ,Megan cheap ones and there double adjustable ones,stance, kw v3, I’ve driven 370z with tein monoflex which are different from tein cheap line which is made in China and there monoflex comes from japan yes a little more money but those ride the nicest from the ones listed. the cheap by and the cheap Megan’s are the same body’s from a different company if you notice all the basic 1k coilovers all have 32 clicks those are all just diff colors of the same body. I’ll have to find the old info on shocks. It’s like girls you’re friend did not like her but you date here next month and you think she the best thing going. So there is a guy that races a gt3 12k for his shocks they get rebuilt twice a season there are people get a few years out of them you can go on and on not trying to start a war but we need consistent info and not here say . Jv

lmao not trying to start a war.

It's not hearsay (heresay according to you) when you have a FIA Bronze driver, 2012 Sony Playstation GT Academy Winner and Nissan driver giving you this feedback. Along with the feedback from an established grassroots motorsports program that revolves around Nissans, data acquired across the Z32, Z33, Z34 and R35 platforms. What else ya got?

You like Tein Monoflexes...odd flex but ok.

OptionZero · 05-07-2019, 03:47 PM

There really are only like 4 places that make coilover components. They're contracted by a billion different brands to make coilovers, and how "good" each brand's stuff is may vary based on the contracts in place

SPDKING · 05-07-2019, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

There really are only like 4 places that make coilover components. They're contracted by a billion different brands to make coilovers, and how "good" each brand's stuff is may vary based on the contracts in place

Who are those 4 places?

AlWakRa · 05-07-2019, 06:58 PM

Locally, Tein has a great reputation, everybody are getting them, I wouldn't say they are bad, they are good for what they are, I tried a brz with flex Z and it was much better than stock, but I could attribute it to the soft stock suspension (which is good with stock tires, but when you jump to high grip tires, you start feel they are not up to the task). The Z on the other hand, has a very well engineered suspension and good with grippy tires if you have front negative camber.

But as I said in my first response, Valving is more important than spring rates, and for that, you need a reputable custom coilovers shop. Personally, I went with MCA suspension, an Australian company, they have a big reputation there, I am very amazed with the quality and how they ride in street, although I feel the rear is softer than what I would like in track (but their customer service is good and we are talking to see what we can change in the setup), but cannot complain in street, I was going to remove my AC to make it full fledged track car, but now I think it is very streetable and wouldn't go that route.

Spooler · 05-08-2019, 07:30 PM

Some of you new guys need to go do some searching on this site and read for a month. Then, maybe you can talk intelligently about suspension. Your not gonna get data, you going to get someone's experiences. There have been and still are some great track guys on here. Please take the time to educate yourself before spitting out nonsense and demanding data. Like someone is just going to give it to you, Really. LMFAO....

SPDKING · 05-08-2019, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Some of you new guys need to go do some searching on this site and read for a month. Then, maybe you can talk intelligently about suspension. Your not gonna get data, you going to get someone's experiences. There have been and still are some great track guys on here. Please take the time to educate yourself before spitting out nonsense and demanding data. Like someone is just going to give it to you, Really. LMFAO....

What is your experience though?

Spooler · 05-08-2019, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SPDKING

What is your experience though?

Search for it. There is a long thread on it. LOL

SPDKING · 05-08-2019, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Search for it. There is a long thread on it. LOL

I actually did see the long thread after I found it a few months ago lol. But just like @Hotrodz is saying, there are way too many variables and preferences.

Hotrodz · 05-08-2019, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SPDKING

What is your experience though?

How about becoming a premium member and help contribute to the cause. Some of us have been around and these questions have been asked and answered numerous times. There lots advice that has given from pro drivers to very competitive grass roots individuals. It you are chasing suspension it is complex and variable. It all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend to get it.

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SPDKING · 05-08-2019, 11:51 PM

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How about becoming a premium member and help contribute to the cause. Some of us have been around and these questions have been asked and answered numerous times. There lots advice that has given from pro drivers to very competitive grass roots individuals. It you are chasing suspension it is complex and variable. It all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend to get it.

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I already made my decision to go with a pretty aggressive setup for canyon/track use that I'm confident I'll be happy with. I know it's gonna be "rough" on the street but I literally only drive my car 2 days out of the week and I have a young enough spine. If the wife doesn't want to drive with me because of the ride, she can bring pillows with her.

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Eagle Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Orange County, CA Posts: 904 Drives: 2011 370z Red 6MT Rep Power: 10657	KW V3's aren't even a track coilover. They're too soft from the factory, need to be rebuilt frequently and aren't all they're cracked up to be for the 370z. I know you said you don't want BC but i've got friends tracking those on 350zs and 370zs with Swift springs and they're pretty happy with them. Powertrix seem to be a pretty good budget coilover for street and some track use. I have a set of these on my Z31 300ZX. Also there's a new company with an offering for the 370z called Annex Suspension. They actually rode with me in my 370z equipped with Mines Ohlins ESTA coilovers to get a feel for them so that they could engineer some of that into their design. I know both the owners behind these two companies and the design/engineering philosophy behind their products. I highly recommend either of them as a budget coil over. Stay away from Megan, Godspeed, Tein, KW and HKS, the feedback i've gotten from people about those are usually around quality, adjustability and a poor ride. JARblue, Rusty, Hotrodz and 2 others like this. __________________ nismo\| EVO-R High Wing \| *Stillen* Gen 3 CAI \| SEIBON TS Hood \| Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler \| VMR 810 Wheels \| Endless MX72 Pads \|*Sabelt* GT-140 Seat \|Fly1Motorsports RS1 Fenders \| Hotchkis Front Sway Bar \| Berk HFC \| Last edited by Eagle; 05-06-2019 at 07:56 PM.

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OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	There really are only like 4 places that make coilover components. They're contracted by a billion different brands to make coilovers, and how "good" each brand's stuff is may vary based on the contracts in place SPDKING likes this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

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AlWakRa Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Qatar Posts: 600 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Rep Power: 13450	Locally, Tein has a great reputation, everybody are getting them, I wouldn't say they are bad, they are good for what they are, I tried a brz with flex Z and it was much better than stock, but I could attribute it to the soft stock suspension (which is good with stock tires, but when you jump to high grip tires, you start feel they are not up to the task). The Z on the other hand, has a very well engineered suspension and good with grippy tires if you have front negative camber. But as I said in my first response, Valving is more important than spring rates, and for that, you need a reputable custom coilovers shop. Personally, I went with MCA suspension, an Australian company, they have a big reputation there, I am very amazed with the quality and how they ride in street, although I feel the rear is softer than what I would like in track (but their customer service is good and we are talking to see what we can change in the setup), but cannot complain in street, I was going to remove my AC to make it full fledged track car, but now I think it is very streetable and wouldn't go that route. Rusty and SPDKING like this. __________________ 2010 370Z Touring Sport Pearl White 6MT Powered by: Fast Intentions - Motordyne - Stillen - OS Giken - CJ Motorsports - Mishimoto - MCA Suspension - SPL - SuperPRO - RJM - Z1 Motorsport - Zspeed - Volk My Humble Journals

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,120 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	Some of you new guys need to go do some searching on this site and read for a month. Then, maybe you can talk intelligently about suspension. Your not gonna get data, you going to get someone's experiences. There have been and still are some great track guys on here. Please take the time to educate yourself before spitting out nonsense and demanding data. Like someone is just going to give it to you, Really. LMFAO.... AlWakRa, Eagle, DarkJak and 3 others like this.

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