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Originally Posted by Jhill Not sure how it's arguable that the rider is the main mass when the bike weighs 36lbs and sits at zero sag without rider. 36LBS with

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Not sure how it's arguable that the rider is the main mass when the bike weighs 36lbs and sits at zero sag without rider.

36LBS with a coil spring? What kind of slacked out gnarliness are you riding?
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36LBS with a coil spring? What kind of slacked out gnarliness are you riding?
You asking what bike? It's a 2011 Santa Cruz v10 carbon (before they had the carbon swing arm though so it weighs a little more). A large chunk is the damn dh casing tires and if it weren't for a handful of super rocky trails at northstar I could get away with a mid casing but the last time I tried I ruined the tire and then destroyed the rim. I think it's maybe less than 36 though but can't remember last time I weighed it somewhere just below 36. Other bike is the new Nomad 4 but that's air sprung so no coil spring debate on that one.
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You asking what bike? It's a 2011 Santa Cruz v10 carbon (before they had the carbon swing arm though so it weighs a little more). A large chunk is the damn dh casing tires and if it weren't for a handful of super rocky trails at northstar I could get away with a mid casing but the last time I tried I ruined the tire and then destroyed the rim. I think it's maybe less than 36 though but can't remember last time I weighed it somewhere just below 36. Other bike is the new Nomad 4 but that's air sprung so no coil spring debate on that one.

Very nice! How are you liking the new nomad? I haven't had a chance to throw a leg over a SC but I hear their quality is top notch. Never tried a coil either for that matter. I'm currently on a transition scout , its really fun for the moderate east coast stuff around me.
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Very nice! How are you liking the new nomad? I haven't had a chance to throw a leg over a SC but I hear their quality is top notch. Never tried a coil either for that matter. I'm currently on a transition scout , its really fun for the moderate east coast stuff around me.
Not having ridden a transition I can't say how it compares but I'll say the nomad 4 is amazing in every way. Coming off a nomad two this thing climbs better than the nomad two and descends just like my v10. It truly is an amazing bike and if it weren't for my v10 being a 26" which holds next to no value today I could probably sell the v10 and really not miss it at the parks which I could not say about the nomad 2.

Coil vs air depends a lot on the bikes leverage ratio, there really isn't one is better than the other, don't get caught into the coil hype that's going on right now. A coil shock on the right bike is amazing but a coil shock on the wrong bike is equally crap.
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