Why are Bose systems hated?

kannibul · 07-21-2009, 11:28 AM

Why - because Bose blows.

Seriously, from an audio perspective, they SUCK. They are as inaccurate as hell. I have a set of $600 Studio Monitors (I do audio mixing / recording for myself and my band, might eventually branch out and do other bands), and I can tell you WITHOUT a doubt, they are the worst sounding systems ever invented.

Way to bassy...and boomy. Treble is rounded off. Mids are grainy...Odd frequency spikes all over...all in the name of making the system sound "bigger".

Anyhow...

I'll hate it until I can come up with something better for my Z, which, given the lack of money I have now, means I'll probably have the bose system for a long time...lol

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 12:34 PM

Also here is some insight into your "great" bose systems. The receiver if you have one the dvd player is take from a computer they do not even make it themselves it is from toshiba. The casings of the speakers are made in china with some cheap weather striping foam inside and some cheap looking paper woofers, the speaker wire is not bigger than a 20 gauge piece out of a toy car.. Oh ya there rely top of the line. Believe me we had one not very good it went in the trash as you can tell from the speakers and all.

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 01:30 PM

LOL K not the newer versions but enjoy your whatever program.

theDreamer · 07-21-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

LOL K not the newer versions but enjoy your whatever program.

Yes, even the newer program.
I have to use it at my office to maintain office phones and it is a very slow program still. Maybe if I use it under OS X it will be quicker, which I have read reports of being true, but I have to use Windows.

"Whatever program," I hate to break it to you, but do some research on computer audio and you will learn quickly what is the best recommended software. Foobar200 and Media Monkey are the top tier, Foobar200 for its complex but unlimited resources in fine tuning your music, Media Monkey is the best catalog storage of your music if you have a large library.

Also, how can you talk about audio quality and iTunes in the same topic? Apple loseless is an "ok format" for digital audio in a loseless form and iTunes/Ipods do not support WMA loseless or WAV or even FLAC which are the top tier digital audio codecs.

370Zsteve · 12-03-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Also, how can you talk about audio quality and iTunes in the same topic? Apple loseless is an "ok format" for digital audio in a loseless form and iTunes/Ipods do not support WMA loseless or WAV or even FLAC which are the top tier digital audio codecs.

+1

bigaudiofanat · 12-03-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Yes, even the newer program.
I have to use it at my office to maintain office phones and it is a very slow program still. Maybe if I use it under OS X it will be quicker, which I have read reports of being true, but I have to use Windows.

"Whatever program," I hate to break it to you, but do some research on computer audio and you will learn quickly what is the best recommended software. Foobar200 and Media Monkey are the top tier, Foobar200 for its complex but unlimited resources in fine tuning your music, Media Monkey is the best catalog storage of your music if you have a large library.

Also, how can you talk about audio quality and iTunes in the same topic? Apple loseless is an "ok format" for digital audio in a loseless form and iTunes/Ipods do not support WMA loseless or WAV or even FLAC which are the top tier digital audio codecs.

Lossless as far as I have read and seen and heard is the best format and an exactly replica of the original cd. The same goes for FLAC. When you copy a cd in lossless than look at the memory used compared to the cd it is exactly the same.

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 04:12 PM

I enjoy itunes and I use a windows computer and a mac love the mac more even though it is 3 years old. But still itunes is the best program and the ipod knows the program so that is what I am using. Not to mention that I started using the program even before I had an ipod.

Anyway back to bose and how much it s***'s

bigaudiofanat · 08-11-2009, 09:12 AM

I rely hate to bring up this sore subject, but I though some people might want to see what there bose amp look like compared to a normal amp. Bose knows that there amps can not push a lot and that is also why so much fades out at higher volumes.

John Bradley · 08-16-2009, 05:45 PM

Well I can assure you all they make the BEST aviation headsets you can buy

billydsz · 08-19-2009, 09:08 AM

I have the Nav/Bose setup in my 370 and it's decent sounding. It's not like an aftermarket system, but rarely can a stock car radio compete with that. The 370z's Nav/Bose setup is still better than most stock setups IMO. I bought it mostly for the Ipod interface and the harddrive and CF reader. Perhaps you could put in a different amp and swap out the speakers and that would have a big impact. FWIW I don't regret getting the system, it's good enough for my purposes and it's a very clean interface. If you are into high end audio then absolutely get the cheapest stock radio and rip it out of there, you won't be happy otherwise.

By the way this is my first post to the forum, I just got my Z yesterday (upgraded from my 05 350z) and I freaking love this car.

ps The Ipod interface will only recharge the older 12v Ipods. If you have one of the newer 5v types you'll need a converter. I found that out on this forum, and that's how I found the forum, when I was googling about my Ipod not charging!! great place we've got here!

tonmed123 · 08-19-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billydsz

I have the Nav/Bose setup in my 370 and it's decent sounding. It's not like an aftermarket system, but rarely can a stock car radio compete with that. The 370z's Nav/Bose setup is still better than most stock setups IMO. I bought it mostly for the Ipod interface and the harddrive and CF reader. Perhaps you could put in a different amp and swap out the speakers and that would have a big impact. FWIW I don't regret getting the system, it's good enough for my purposes and it's a very clean interface. If you are into high end audio then absolutely get the cheapest stock radio and rip it out of there, you won't be happy otherwise.

By the way this is my first post to the forum, I just got my Z yesterday (upgraded from my 05 350z) and I freaking love this car.

ps The Ipod interface will only recharge the older 12v Ipods. If you have one of the newer 5v types you'll need a converter. I found that out on this forum, and that's how I found the forum, when I was googling about my Ipod not charging!! great place we've got here!

Welcome aboard!

Zsteve · 10-03-2009, 08:18 PM

I have the touring model with the Bose system but dont have the nav. Does the CF slot only come with the nav?

fairladyZ34 · 10-04-2009, 12:58 AM

the BOSE is my opinon is pretty good for stock. to get the best soudn you have to play thru the AUX or cd cuz radio doesnt process as well. it comes in at a lower volume. also push the bose system up. i play it at max alot with my bass at +2 and treble at +2. it seems to handle it well and if not thats what a warranty is for.

370Zsteve · 12-03-2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ34

the BOSE is my opinon is pretty good for stock. to get the best soudn you have to play thru the AUX or cd cuz radio doesnt process as well. it comes in at a lower volume. also push the bose system up. i play it at max alot with my bass at +2 and treble at +2. it seems to handle it well and if not thats what a warranty is for.

The Bose system works for me. I have Harmon-Kardon and Klipsch at home when I feel the need to crank it.

The beauty of the Bose 'Wavelength' design is in it's sound at lower volumes, and the amount of sound it can produce from very small speakers. I'm an old rocker, my hearing is fukd from many years of lead guitar, headphones, etc. I don't need to be riding around inside a speaker cabinet which is basically what you are doing when you drop in a powerful system into a car.

And all you iPod-wearing freaks out there, your hearing will be shot by the time you are 30.

Love,
The Voice of Experience

fairladyZ34 · 10-04-2009, 12:59 AM

my 2000 accord with alpine headunit, mtx sub and amp and infinti spealers is still louder lol

07-21-2009, 12:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	Also here is some insight into your "great" bose systems. The receiver if you have one the dvd player is take from a computer they do not even make it themselves it is from toshiba. The casings of the speakers are made in china with some cheap weather striping foam inside and some cheap looking paper woofers, the speaker wire is not bigger than a 20 gauge piece out of a toy car.. Oh ya there rely top of the line. Believe me we had one not very good it went in the trash as you can tell from the speakers and all. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 07-21-2009 at 12:43 PM.

07-21-2009, 01:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	LOL K not the newer versions but enjoy your whatever program. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

07-21-2009, 04:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	I enjoy itunes and I use a windows computer and a mac love the mac more even though it is 3 years old. But still itunes is the best program and the ipod knows the program so that is what I am using. Not to mention that I started using the program even before I had an ipod. Anyway back to bose and how much it s*'s __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know** Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 07-21-2009 at 07:08 PM.

08-11-2009, 09:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	I rely hate to bring up this sore subject, but I though some people might want to see what there bose amp look like compared to a normal amp. Bose knows that there amps can not push a lot and that is also why so much fades out at higher volumes. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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07-21-2009, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 268	Why - because Bose blows. Seriously, from an audio perspective, they SUCK. They are as inaccurate as hell. I have a set of $600 Studio Monitors (I do audio mixing / recording for myself and my band, might eventually branch out and do other bands), and I can tell you WITHOUT a doubt, they are the worst sounding systems ever invented. Way to bassy...and boomy. Treble is rounded off. Mids are grainy...Odd frequency spikes all over...all in the name of making the system sound "bigger". Anyhow... I'll hate it until I can come up with something better for my Z, which, given the lack of money I have now, means I'll probably have the bose system for a long time...lol

08-16-2009, 05:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
John Bradley Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 419 Drives: 2010 Silver RDZTER Rep Power: 17	Well I can assure you all they make the BEST aviation headsets you can buy

08-19-2009, 09:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 17	I have the Nav/Bose setup in my 370 and it's decent sounding. It's not like an aftermarket system, but rarely can a stock car radio compete with that. The 370z's Nav/Bose setup is still better than most stock setups IMO. I bought it mostly for the Ipod interface and the harddrive and CF reader. Perhaps you could put in a different amp and swap out the speakers and that would have a big impact. FWIW I don't regret getting the system, it's good enough for my purposes and it's a very clean interface. If you are into high end audio then absolutely get the cheapest stock radio and rip it out of there, you won't be happy otherwise. By the way this is my first post to the forum, I just got my Z yesterday (upgraded from my 05 350z) and I freaking love this car. ps The Ipod interface will only recharge the older 12v Ipods. If you have one of the newer 5v types you'll need a converter. I found that out on this forum, and that's how I found the forum, when I was googling about my Ipod not charging!! great place we've got here!

10-03-2009, 08:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	I have the touring model with the Bose system but dont have the nav. Does the CF slot only come with the nav?

10-04-2009, 12:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
fairladyZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NJ Posts: 1,577 Drives: 08 G37S Black M6 Rep Power: 20	the BOSE is my opinon is pretty good for stock. to get the best soudn you have to play thru the AUX or cd cuz radio doesnt process as well. it comes in at a lower volume. also push the bose system up. i play it at max alot with my bass at +2 and treble at +2. it seems to handle it well and if not thats what a warranty is for.

10-04-2009, 12:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
fairladyZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NJ Posts: 1,577 Drives: 08 G37S Black M6 Rep Power: 20	my 2000 accord with alpine headunit, mtx sub and amp and infinti spealers is still louder lol

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