Nissan 370Z Forum  

Focal car audio any good??

Originally Posted by The Weapon On the Crossovers you have the option to tune the tweeters (-3db 0db +3db) foculs prefer to be actively x'd over...makes a world of difference

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Audio & Video


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-14-2009, 04:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St. James, NY
Posts: 237
Drives: 350Z
Rep Power: 15
Z1Performance is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Weapon View Post
On the Crossovers you have the option to tune the tweeters (-3db 0db +3db)

foculs prefer to be actively x'd over...makes a world of difference (I own a set of Utopia's in one of our Z's)
Z1Performance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2009, 04:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St. James, NY
Posts: 237
Drives: 350Z
Rep Power: 15
Z1Performance is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-370z View Post
The Focals tweeters are harsh?? Thats not good...The Z is very small inside and the tweeters are kinda close to the ears, thats not a good combo if they hurt your ear. I love mid bass, the kind that does not sound like it is working to hard or bottoming out. I want some comps that have some good mid bass and can handle some lower bass as well or at least mix well with a sub. I dont like hard hitting bass that makes my head hurt "Advil". Just want it clean sounding, im done with all that loud ***, rattle my ear drums off stuff. One sub is all I need. And I can't stress enough how much I love low low hitting bass. I think some of this has to do with tuning it right???

You have to keep something in mind

Your amp selection has as much to do with the overall sound as your speaker choice. Some amps are warmer sounding than others, for example. Same goes for headunits. Some are more musical than others, for a variety of reasons. The mounting of the speaker also has everything to do with the stage and overall imaging you get. Are their tweeters brigher than some? Sure...and less bright than others

My setup is very very simple - one amp (6 channel that I run bridged), Focal Utopia 6.5's (2 way), and a single 10 inch Seas Lotus sub in a very small box in the spare tire well (350Z). I've owned, built, and heard tons of systems ranging from low to ultra high end, and I am extremely pleased with mine

Listening to ANY of them on a soundboard is going to tell you zilch - you need to check out people's installs, and take notes on the full system details before reaching a conclusion
Z1Performance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2009, 08:49 PM   #18 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JB-370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 1,859
Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos
Rep Power: 19
JB-370z is on a distinguished road
Default

another question for any of you audiophiles out there!!?!! What is a good sub that will give me low low hitting bass. NNot the hard hitting headache bass. Is JL good for this??? I heard some one say JL give a good low bass. I dont listen to rap much but when I do I like the low hitting bass. Does this make any sense to anyone???
JB-370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2009, 08:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 852
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

I am not a JL fan, my choices are polk SR and image dynamics Q for subs. Look at either a single 10 or 12.
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2009, 09:00 PM   #20 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 41
Posts: 1,680
Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT
Rep Power: 18
Matt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-370z View Post
another question for any of you audiophiles out there!!?!! What is a good sub that will give me low low hitting bass. NNot the hard hitting headache bass. Is JL good for this??? I heard some one say JL give a good low bass. I dont listen to rap much but when I do I like the low hitting bass. Does this make any sense to anyone???
About 10 years ago, I swore by JL when I was doing audio installs. The w6 line was fantastic, and not too expensive in my eyes.

As I've been looking for a good single 10 or 12 to put in the Z, it just seems that the JL subs are twice the cost of other great subs, like the Image Dynamics and RF subs, and arguable not even as good.

I've read good things about the IDQ line from Image Dynamics and the Power series from RF. There are honestly a dozen great choices out there for clean base. The headache you get from some base may be the amp and enclosure, more than the sub itself.
__________________

"Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

Last edited by Matt; 11-15-2009 at 01:25 AM.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2009, 09:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 852
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt View Post
About 10 years ago, I swore by JL when I was doing audio installs. The w6 line was fantastic, and not too expensive in my eyes.

As I've been looking for a good single 10 or 12 to put in the Z, it just seems that the JL subs are twice the cost of other great subs, like the Image Dynamics and RF subs, and arguable not even as good.

I'm read good things about the IDQ line from Image Dynamics and the Power series from RF. There are honestly a dozen great choices out there for clean base. The headache you get from some base may be the amp and enclosure, more than the sub itself.
Finally someone else sees what I see!!!!! X2 for the ID Q
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 01:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
Base Member
 
MoChu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 108
Drives: Pearl NisSan 370z
Rep Power: 15
MoChu is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey Bigaudiofanat, how is Boston speakers compare to focal and image danamics?
__________________
MoChu
MoChu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 01:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 41
Posts: 1,680
Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT
Rep Power: 18
Matt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoChu View Post
Hey Bigaudiofanat, how is Boston speakers compare to focal and image danamics?
I have some Boston 6x9's in my other car, and they are in the top few 6x9's I've ever heard. I don't have any experience with the components and subs though. Good thing about Boston, is that they have quite a few series of speakers to find exactly what you want, as opposed to someone like Focal who have a large gap between the affordability and performance series.
__________________

"Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 04:58 AM   #24 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 852
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoChu View Post
Hey Bigaudiofanat, how is Boston speakers compare to focal and image danamics?
I installed Bostons all around in my sisters car a few years ago. After my sister had listened to them for about 2 days , she came to me asking where the bass was. After taking a re listen to them their really was none really there. Also the the tweeters just did not have the sound they were suppose to have. I know she did not blow them but just unsatisfied with them. I can probably say that their higher end speakers would sound good but as for my overall experience with them I am not that impressed. Ex. I know that the polk db or mm series speakers sound so much better than the bostons that are in her car. So you might be asking why I did not put them in her car. Well because I sort of use her car as a test car.


Oh almost forgot how do they compare to focal and ID. No comparison from what I have seen. Focal a bit harsh for my taste and ID very smooth tweeters and solid mid bass.
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 11-15-2009 at 05:00 AM.
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 07:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St. James, NY
Posts: 237
Drives: 350Z
Rep Power: 15
Z1Performance is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-370z View Post
another question for any of you audiophiles out there!!?!! What is a good sub that will give me low low hitting bass. NNot the hard hitting headache bass. Is JL good for this??? I heard some one say JL give a good low bass. I dont listen to rap much but when I do I like the low hitting bass. Does this make any sense to anyone???
It's as much about box design and proper power as the sub itself. I'd figure out where you want the box, and how much cubic space you're working with, then from there select your amp and sub

We run Seas Lotus in our cars - they are beyond great when powered right and in the right enclosure (like most subs). ID, Adire, XXX are also top notch stuff, very highly regarded, and not the usual that you see in most systems
Z1Performance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2009, 07:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 852
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

JB, yes Z1 is correct box design has a lot to do with how a sub sounds. But on the other hand there are different sub types. I would recommend for what you are looking for is a polk mm or a ID Q. Yes I do recommend a lot of the same things to a lot of different people but from what I have seen and hear ID is a great name and great sound.
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 06:06 PM   #27 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
2fast4thelaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Denver Co
Age: 49
Posts: 403
Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6
Rep Power: 16
2fast4thelaw will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB-370z View Post
another question for any of you audiophiles out there!!?!! What is a good sub that will give me low low hitting bass. NNot the hard hitting headache bass. Is JL good for this??? I heard some one say JL give a good low bass. I dont listen to rap much but when I do I like the low hitting bass. Does this make any sense to anyone???
JL Audio 12W6V2 would suit your likes. ID subs are too mid bassy for my tastes but the W6 hits low and they are very smooth sounding. It is definitly JL's best sounding subwoofer ever! The W3V3 also sounds very musical as well but it cant take big power for very long, I fried one on a 600watt Alpine V-12 amp within 6 months. I can't blame the sub completely as I discovered I had a leaky enclosure which most likely was the death of the W3.

Focals are AWESOME! if you really want killer, mind blowing volume and pounding mid bass then look at the 3-way sets by Focal. The polyglass 165V3 are incredible!! The Poly Kev 165V3 even better but they $$$$$.

Focal amps are very high quality amps and will definitly do the job.

I dont recommend Focal subs, they dont work well in sealed enclosures, they seriously lack if you seal them.
__________________
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
2fast4thelaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 07:05 PM   #28 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Manila
Posts: 170
Drives: PG 370 Tour/Sprt/Nav
Rep Power: 270
alexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond reputealexanderb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bullitt5897 View Post
What else out there is on par with Focal? like who is their direct competitor besides ID?
Have you heard of Morel? IMO they make great sounding speakers. Their tweeters are not harsh at all...
alexanderb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 08:43 AM   #29 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
2fast4thelaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Denver Co
Age: 49
Posts: 403
Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6
Rep Power: 16
2fast4thelaw will become famous soon enough
Default

They are really good but the highs are a little too laid back for my tastes. Morel speakers are not efficient and require a lot of power.

I would compare Focal to like Dynaudio, Rainbow, Seas, Morel. Focal is pretty much a top dog speaker manufacturer, just look at thier home audio lines! Some of thier speakers cost upwards of over 100 Grand. You are not going to find anything out there that is going to best them by much if any at all. They are hand made and thier approach to materials is "Cost-IS-No-Object". They are the Ferrari of the audio world.
__________________
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

Last edited by 2fast4thelaw; 11-17-2009 at 08:52 AM.
2fast4thelaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 08:46 AM   #30 (permalink)
Car Audio Installer
 
bigaudiofanat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Magnolia DE
Posts: 8,342
Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x
Rep Power: 852
bigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond reputebigaudiofanat has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Yahoo to bigaudiofanat Send a message via Skype™ to bigaudiofanat
Default

I think what we can gather from this thread is that you the buyer need to hear them before you buy them.
__________________
Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know
Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com
Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below
https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/
bigaudiofanat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good audio shop in HI Lost Audio & Video 24 09-25-2009 04:04 AM
Question about Focal Power Handling The Weapon Audio & Video 3 09-10-2009 09:40 PM
Ft. Myers/Naples, FL: Good Mechanics and Audio Installers? marcussoori Nissan 370Z General Discussions 0 05-21-2009 09:22 AM
FOCAL BUS 20 underseat SUB 355890 Audio & Video 4 04-26-2009 11:25 AM
Pioneer/Focal installed in a base model wellarmed Audio & Video 16 04-22-2009 02:22 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2