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Mike

thats about it, kind of like using a different offset wheel.

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john370z

It seems that when some people on the forum put on rear spacers the top of the wheel looks sunk in and looks in need of a camber adjustment and others look nice and perpendicular to the road or flush with the car. Do the spacers that look nice have camber adjustment and others do not. Do you have to buy new camber arms to get the right adjustment? Thanks
John

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spearfish25

If you stand behind your car, you'll notice that the rear fender panel angles downward toward the car's midline. It makes the tire look like the camber is off...it's an illusion.

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ZForce

The contol arm for the stock 370Z are non adjustable, therefore any lowering springs that drop from oem height will place more negative camber on the wheels. There is a little bit that can be adjusted with a stock suspension, other than that you are faced with adding upper control arms and a rear camber kit to add positve camber back in after installing lowering springs.

The rule of thumb is any drop below 0.75 will require a camber kit to bring it back into mfg specs. The Eibachs drop the front 0.9 and rear 0.8. That is borderline out of mfg specs and its a personal choice, some like the more negative camber and some want to save their tires and go for a camber kit.

Myself I went with a rear camber kit and will hold off on the fronts until I see how the tires wear and go from there.

As far as needing a camber kit with just adding spaciners and NO lowering springs. I honestly do not know if spacers alone will effect the mfg camber. I was advised by a reputable shop that installed my spacers on my last 350Z to get an alignment done after spacer install, which lead me to believe something changes in the suspension setup when adding spacers and it may not change the camber BUT may change one of the other adjustments, toe or caster. I never got an alignment done and sold the car soon after and got the 370Z.

EDIT....From Mike's comment above, it looks like spacers do not effect the camber and he was able to get a good alignment with spacers and Eibach springs....thanks Mike!

Hope this helps.

Curtis

cptspeed

Buy H&R's and you will be happy. No other work needed.

Mike

I have springs and spacers and was able to get a good alignment without camber arms. Spacers won't affect your camber.

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tommyguns

Thank you for the direct answer!

john370z

Thanks for great help!!!

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ResQguy

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I'm still a little confused. How exactly does one determine the right size spacer they'll need? After reading this thread (and a few others), it would appear that, to a certain degree, it's personal preference. However, I've noticed that a few guys have commented that their spacers wouldn't fit with their wheels. I'm looking at dropping my Z on Eibachs, and putting on 20" Axis Angles (20x9 front, 20x10 rear). Do I use 15, 20 or 25mm??? Also, and maybe I missed this, but does the offset of the wheel also help determine the width of the spacer? I need a drink...

Josh@STILLEN

Offsets on wheels will absolutely have an effect.. you need to know that before you consider a spacer to bring the wheel flush.

Honestly with a correctly built wheel, you shouldn't be running spacers..

ResQguy

I don't think I understand what you're saying. What makes a wheel "correctly built?" It seems like a lot of the guys are using the stock sport wheels with spacers. I would think that the Sport Rays are built correctly. I have a touring without the sport package, so that's why I wanted new wheels to begin with.

Josh@STILLEN

Sorry.. I probably didn't explain well enough. "Correctly" is probably a bad word to use.

It's much better to use a wheel with the offset to achieve the look that's you're looking for instead of running a spacer to acheive that.

The factory sport wheels are what they are, and guys who want a flush look add spacers (obviously they're not going to create a whole new wheel).

If you're getting wheels, ideally you would get some with the offset to acheive the level of flushness you'd like, instead of adding spacers to them. But this may only be possible if the wheel exists, or you're having custom wheels made, and can choose your offsets.

6MT

Here is a shot of wheels with the proper offset for the desired effect of "flushness". These are Volks GT30's. Have a look at the pictures on my profile page. I had these wheels made for me in 20 inch.

Here's my info on these... Front: 20" X 9.5" wide with +35 offset
Rear: 20" X 10.5" wide with +10 offset
My tire sizes where: Front 265/30/20 and Rear 305/25/20.

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2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold
2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

370zee

Thanks for the input in regards to replacing the studs. Nowi guess the only thing I need to find out is if H&R do 10mm drs for the 370? On the stillen site it matched a pair of 10mm drs but I'm not sure if this is right as I haven't seen anyone else stocking these for the Z? Can anyone shed some light on this? If there isn't any H&R 10mm drs, can anyone suggest amother brand?

Thanks

Jeffblue

Is your car lowered? Do you rub with the 305 in the back? if not,how close is it to rubbing. Do you think it would rub with a +5 offset, all things being equal?