There must be something wrong with me...No digging the Pilot super sports...

UFreefer · 05-07-2013, 01:54 PM

Wow, that's awesome!

fuct · 05-07-2013, 03:01 PM

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what about looking into this. i thought if you didnt like them before 30 days you get a new pair.

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Joepro · 05-07-2013, 05:32 PM

Tire rack honored that, Michelin would not, stating the size did not affect the the sidewall rigidity, only the tire compound. New ones should be here tomorrow, I wantto get them on and the old ones back asap to get my $1200 credit, my CC company is in love with me right now haha.

Joepro · 05-08-2013, 08:18 PM

Ok the verdict is in, I got the stock sized pss on, and yes, the size was 90% of the problem. The steering response still is crap on these tires...I honest cannot understand how people on these forums bashed the stock tires so much, they had better steering response and stiffer sidewalls, and the re50a is not regarded by the people as a good tire...and mine were dry rotting away, that's why I changed them! ANYWAY, I am much happier now, the car does no roll like a boat at sea in corners now, and is acceptable. Will I ever buy pss again, not at this price point, IMO they perform in the 700-800 dollar range, the KDWs on my 350 are similar to these in handling and grip, makes me wonder about the new BFG, might have saved 400 bucks...if I changed these out again, I would do this, 255/35/19 F and 285/30/19 R, this will go a tad wider but keep the sides short, yet shorter than stock, but it should help with steering response. Michelin has everyone brain washed, sorry guys, I agree 100% with HonestyPittsburgh/Western PA/Ohio/WV Group, and I am running these at 40 PSI now, I want to back them off to 38 and see if that is ok. Keep in mine I still have to break these in, ram around for about 50 miles after work tonight they are still a tad slippy

Fountainhead · 05-08-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not sure if it's been mentioned or not, but new tires almost always feel softer because you're going from no tread to full tread.

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Joepro · 05-08-2013, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not sure if it's been mentioned or not, but new tires almost always feel softer because you're going from no tread to full tread.

I never run my tires bald, the front were still 6/32nds but dry rotting and hardened, the rear were 3/32nds.

chrischhorn · 05-09-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

I never run my tires bald, the front were still 6/32nds but dry rotting and hardened, the rear were 3/32nds.

As stated before, most people on this forum don't run this car as hard as you or I do and the people that do are running the RE-11's, AD08's, Direzzas, RS-3's or something of that caliber. Basically a step short of R-Comps. The PSS's can handle some track time but they are built for the streets. Aggressive corner carving like I do, I wouldn't last long on the PSS's as I've driven my friends 350z on them and they do bite but not enough steering response as you said. Not only that, at 40 psi, you're not using anywhere near enough contact patch to get the full effect of the traction they provide. 32ish would be ideal.

fuct · 05-10-2013, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro

Ok the verdict is in, I got the stock sized pss on, and yes, the size was 90% of the problem. The steering response still is crap on these tires...I honest cannot understand how people on these forums bashed the stock tires so much, they had better steering response and stiffer sidewalls, and the re50a is not regarded by the people as a good tire...and mine were dry rotting away, that's why I changed them! ANYWAY, I am much happier now, the car does no roll like a boat at sea in corners now, and is acceptable. Will I ever buy pss again, not at this price point, IMO they perform in the 700-800 dollar range, the KDWs on my 350 are similar to these in handling and grip, makes me wonder about the new BFG, might have saved 400 bucks...if I changed these out again, I would do this, 255/35/19 F and 285/30/19 R, this will go a tad wider but keep the sides short, yet shorter than stock, but it should help with steering response. Michelin has everyone brain washed, sorry guys, I agree 100% with HonestyPittsburgh/Western PA/Ohio/WV Group, and I am running these at 40 PSI now, I want to back them off to 38 and see if that is ok. Keep in mine I still have to break these in, ram around for about 50 miles after work tonight they are still a tad slippy

how many miles have you put on them? did you let them break in atleast a little?

kenchan · 05-10-2013, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn

Not only that, at 40 psi, you're not using anywhere near enough contact patch to get the full effect of the traction they provide. 32ish would be ideal.

32ish is low... 3psi lower than factory recommendation which is already kinda low geared for comfort. if the tires feel good at that psi, then there is no way in hell they will have the firm-ish ride i want.

thanks for the info!

Ubetit · 05-10-2013, 07:36 PM

Can't wait to get the PSS for my car. Those tires made a big difference with my beater 06 Civic si.

chrischhorn · 05-10-2013, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

32ish is low... 3psi lower than factory recommendation which is already kinda low geared for comfort. if the tires feel good at that psi, then there is no way in hell they will have the firm-ish ride i want.

thanks for the info!

Firm steering response? no but better contact

05-07-2013, 05:32 PM	#33 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	Tire rack honored that, Michelin would not, stating the size did not affect the the sidewall rigidity, only the tire compound. New ones should be here tomorrow, I wantto get them on and the old ones back asap to get my $1200 credit, my CC company is in love with me right now haha. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

05-08-2013, 08:18 PM	#34 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	Ok the verdict is in, I got the stock sized pss on, and yes, the size was 90% of the problem. The steering response still is crap on these tires...I honest cannot understand how people on these forums bashed the stock tires so much, they had better steering response and stiffer sidewalls, and the re50a is not regarded by the people as a good tire...and mine were dry rotting away, that's why I changed them! ANYWAY, I am much happier now, the car does no roll like a boat at sea in corners now, and is acceptable. Will I ever buy pss again, not at this price point, IMO they perform in the 700-800 dollar range, the KDWs on my 350 are similar to these in handling and grip, makes me wonder about the new BFG, might have saved 400 bucks...if I changed these out again, I would do this, 255/35/19 F and 285/30/19 R, this will go a tad wider but keep the sides short, yet shorter than stock, but it should help with steering response. Michelin has everyone brain washed, sorry guys, I agree 100% with HonestyPittsburgh/Western PA/Ohio/WV Group, and I am running these at 40 PSI now, I want to back them off to 38 and see if that is ok. Keep in mine I still have to break these in, ram around for about 50 miles after work tonight they are still a tad slippy __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group Last edited by Joepro; 05-08-2013 at 08:29 PM.

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