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Old 05-04-2014, 03:32 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Thanks for the answers guys. Making my order tomorrow
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I run V3 20mm bold on all around, car looks perfect, great for street and fun driving around canyon roads. I will however replace the studs instead, to start tracking the car.
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I run V3 20mm bold on all around, car looks perfect, great for street and fun driving around canyon roads. I will however replace the studs instead, to start tracking the car.
Your spacers are installed in the pic you have online? We have a virtually identical car. I'm trying to determine if 20mm is too much for the front. Your thoughts?
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I run V3 20mm bold on all around, car looks perfect, great for street and fun driving around canyon roads. I will however replace the studs instead, to start tracking the car.
Why would you replace the studs? Bolt on > slip on with replaced studs
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Your spacers are installed in the pic you have online? We have a virtually identical car. I'm trying to determine if 20mm is too much for the front. Your thoughts?
I think 20mm is perfect.

I ran 20mm all around. I even had my new wheels cut to the same offset of 20mm all around.


I MAYBE would have gone 25mm in the rear, but 20mm all around gives it a nice flush look and I'm okay with that. Not too much of the tire sticking out at all.
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Why would you replace the studs? Bolt on > slip on with replaced studs
So that you can use all the threads in the lug to hold it on, otherwise you're only holding that wheel on with 50% (or less, I'm not sure) of the threads.

Doesn't seem safe, nor worth the risk, IMO.
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just threw wheel spacers on the ride. absolutely love how the car looks now. and it may just be in my head, but the car actually seems smoother and turn in is noticeably better.

in my reading, i didn't see anyone mention an off brand of spacer. soooo, i went to amazon looking for something cheap that may be a quality alternative to the h&r's, eibach's, etc. before you start flaming, i did this entirely for testing purposes and the gathering of information and i was prepared to return them if they weren't perfect.

i went with 20mm in the front and 25mm in the rear. total cost was $125 and shipping was free. and yes, they were perfect. so if you're looking for a quality, cnc machined, hub centric spacer at half the cost of the h&r's, i'd highly recommend these.

the 20's fit perfectly on the front but the factory stud does stick out past the spacer. they fit because the rays have recesses in the back of the wheel that allow the wheel to sit flush on the spacer. (the post on amazon says they will not fit.)
the 25's are perfect for the rear with a 275 tire. i may end up dropping down though when i replace the rear tires with something wider next summer.
i used some antiseize on all the hubs and blue locktight on the spacers nuts only.

if you plan on keeping your factory wheels, there is no reason not to throw spacers on! do it now!
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So that you can use all the threads in the lug to hold it on, otherwise you're only holding that wheel on with 50% (or less, I'm not sure) of the threads.

Doesn't seem safe, nor worth the risk, IMO.
Funny, you liked my post that said this:

I wouldn't replace studs for track. Track duty sees more torsional stress on the lengthened studs which can stretch or break the studs and cause the wheel to come loose or fall off.

Bolt on spacers are torqued down on the wheel and on the spacer so there is no torsional stress on the studs.

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I think I liked it with the understanding that you meant spacers in general are not safe for tracking.


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Funny, you liked my post that said this:

I wouldn't replace studs for track. Track duty sees more torsional stress on the lengthened studs which can stretch or break the studs and cause the wheel to come loose or fall off.

Bolt on spacers are torqued down on the wheel and on the spacer so there is no torsional stress on the studs.

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I see a lot of d1gp cars with bolt on spacers. Considering all the torque that spins their wheels for drifting I feel it's safe to go with them.
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just threw wheel spacers on the ride. absolutely love how the car looks now. and it may just be in my head, but the car actually seems smoother and turn in is noticeably better.



in my reading, i didn't see anyone mention an off brand of spacer. soooo, i went to amazon looking for something cheap that may be a quality alternative to the h&r's, eibach's, etc. before you start flaming, i did this entirely for testing purposes and the gathering of information and i was prepared to return them if they weren't perfect.



i went with 20mm in the front and 25mm in the rear. total cost was $125 and shipping was free. and yes, they were perfect. so if you're looking for a quality, cnc machined, hub centric spacer at half the cost of the h&r's, i'd highly recommend these.



the 20's fit perfectly on the front but the factory stud does stick out past the spacer. they fit because the rays have recesses in the back of the wheel that allow the wheel to sit flush on the spacer. (the post on amazon says they will not fit.)

the 25's are perfect for the rear with a 275 tire. i may end up dropping down though when i replace the rear tires with something wider next summer.

i used some antiseize on all the hubs and blue locktight on the spacers nuts only.



if you plan on keeping your factory wheels, there is no reason not to throw spacers on! do it now!

Thank you! I just ordered mine from Amazon. I've had good luck with "off brand" spacers in the past. I'll give these a try at half the price!


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did you order these up yet? i just jumped on here looking to answer the same question. the stillen site says the bolt on h&r's won't fit the front wheels but i could have sworn i saw people on here with them on the fronts. i just bought my z and i'm looking at the z1 spacers. 20 front/25 rear. that seems to be best looking option on the factory rays.

as i was saying
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if you plan on keeping your factory wheels, there is no reason not to throw spacers on! do it now!
Well you say this, but I do have two nagging doubts.

I'm late to the party here I know because I've been off this forum for a long while now. Just popped back in yesterday to post some pics and saw this thread.

I've long "thought" about spacers, but always dismissed them for 2 main reasons:
#1. I think in the long run they will add extra unnecessary wear on the bearings and cause premature failure.
#2. I don't like the idea of having my wheels perfectly "spaced in the center" twice. I've had big problems with "ring" spacers in the past, such a problem I said I'd never do it again. I realize these Z spacers don't have the rings, they are a solid part of the spacers, but it still makes me wonder in the long run.

Basically, I use my car as a daily driver as much as possible, and I'm afraid the spacers will cause long term premature wear on the bearings, and also cause possible "wobble" (unbalanced) problems. By this time after all these years I wonder if there are any people out there having these problems?

Am I being over cautious here or just plain dumb?

Thanks for any advise anyone can give.

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Because widening the track will increase wear on bearings (just like having wider wheels with lower offset), the steering is now a little bit more responsive due to a slight increase weight in the feel caused by the increase scrub radius. I'm very happy with the result both in terms of looks and handling wise (wider track). In fact the car appeared to sit lower with the wheels pushed flush to the fenders! Photos always make the car seem taller, but in person the car is a lot lower (since you're looked down at it as the last photo shows)

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