Square setup?

longlivethez · 02-23-2018, 09:20 AM

It's time to start planning my new tire purchase. Stock tires are toast.

First up: Goals...

- I do not drive much...I've had the car almost 2 years and it only has ~12,500 miles on it.

- I live in Phoenix, so performance in the wet isn't a concern.

- I DO track my car, so I want a really high performing, sticky tire...that is, as long as I don't have to replace it every...like...3000 miles or something.

Here's what I'm thinking: I don't make enough power to justify 305s or anything crazy, so I'm thinking 285/35s on all 4 corners...stock Sport wheels with 20mm spacers on all 4 corners, as well.

I'd kind of prefer 275s, but I'm pretty sold on RE-11s and they are only available in 275/30...that'd lower the car another half an inch-ish...which I don't want. 285/35 will keep the height the same, and I know it'll work on the rear, but I'm concerned about that width on the front...especially with the spacers.

What are your thoughts?

Anyone recommend anything other than RE-11s?

Thanks!!

JARblue · 02-23-2018, 09:51 AM

There are plenty of threads on this already...

The OEM wheels are staggered on the Z so I would match the tire size to the wheel size as appropriate. If you run a square setup with four rear wheels, then it makes sense to run the same size tire on all four corners.

RE-11s are old. Try RE-71Rs.

240se · 03-29-2018, 01:47 PM

Assuming that your not exceeding the suggested rim width range for the tire size whats wrong with running four 275/35-19 or four 285/35-19 with staggered size rims?

sirnixalot · 03-29-2018, 04:20 PM

I recently switched to a square setup on stock sport rear wheels with 275/35's. The tires arent anything special or grippy. I do not track the car (no track to do so) but I can tell you it is VERY neutral. I need that front Hotchkis bar in the worst way.

gomer_110 · 03-29-2018, 06:26 PM

Bridgestone RE-71R in a 285/35-19 is the tire you're looking for. At least on tirerack.com, the 285 wide tire is actually cheaper than the 275 wide tire.

longlivethez · 03-30-2018, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110

Bridgestone RE-71R in a 285/35-19 is the tire you're looking for. At least on tirerack.com, the 285 wide tire is actually cheaper than the 275 wide tire.

Interesting. How do those compare to the infamous RE-11?

longlivethez · 03-30-2018, 09:26 AM

Well...guess it doesn't matter. Looks like I dragged my feet too long and now they're out of stock.

****.

longlivethez · 03-30-2018, 10:43 AM

Looking like I'm going to forgo the square setup...and the RE-11s. Thinking I'm going to go PSS in 255/35/19 front, 295/35/19 in the rear.

Jmatchley86 · 04-19-2019, 07:52 AM

I just went to a square set up with RPF1s 18x10.5 +15 all around. My tires are 275/40/18 and they rub slightly in the front on swift springs. Rolled my fender last night and its better but i'm betting a 35 aspect ratio will solve the issue if not vastly improve it.

I track my car and daily so on track it shouldn't be an issue but local streets leave alot to be desired for smoothness. looking into a 10mm wider fender but really don't want to spend 1k if a lower aspect tire will solve this issue.

Hope this info helps.

OptionZero · 04-19-2019, 01:56 PM

You do not need a wide front fender to fit that.

Roll your fenders
If you haven't already, get some SPL FUCA for adjustment of camber and caster
crank the camber to around -3
you should be fine

gomer_110 · 04-19-2019, 07:44 PM

A 40 profile tire? That seems like an awful lot of sidewall. Seems like a 30 or even 35 profile tire would have been a better fit.

02-23-2018, 09:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
longlivethez Base Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Phoenix Posts: 105 Drives: 2014 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 164	Square setup? It's time to start planning my new tire purchase. Stock tires are toast. First up: Goals... - I do not drive much...I've had the car almost 2 years and it only has ~12,500 miles on it. - I live in Phoenix, so performance in the wet isn't a concern. - I DO track my car, so I want a really high performing, sticky tire...that is, as long as I don't have to replace it every...like...3000 miles or something. Here's what I'm thinking: I don't make enough power to justify 305s or anything crazy, so I'm thinking 285/35s on all 4 corners...stock Sport wheels with 20mm spacers on all 4 corners, as well. I'd kind of prefer 275s, but I'm pretty sold on RE-11s and they are only available in 275/30...that'd lower the car another half an inch-ish...which I don't want. 285/35 will keep the height the same, and I know it'll work on the rear, but I'm concerned about that width on the front...especially with the spacers. What are your thoughts? Anyone recommend anything other than RE-11s? Thanks!!

02-23-2018, 09:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	There are plenty of threads on this already... The OEM wheels are staggered on the Z so I would match the tire size to the wheel size as appropriate. If you run a square setup with four rear wheels, then it makes sense to run the same size tire on all four corners. RE-11s are old. Try RE-71Rs. cv129 and Nixin like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

03-29-2018, 04:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
sirnixalot Track Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 685 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 57455	I recently switched to a square setup on stock sport rear wheels with 275/35's. The tires arent anything special or grippy. I do not track the car (no track to do so) but I can tell you it is VERY neutral. I need that front Hotchkis bar in the worst way. __________________ 2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading 2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap

03-29-2018, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Bridgestone RE-71R in a 285/35-19 is the tire you're looking for. At least on tirerack.com, the 285 wide tire is actually cheaper than the 275 wide tire. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

04-19-2019, 01:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	You do not need a wide front fender to fit that. Roll your fenders If you haven't already, get some SPL FUCA for adjustment of camber and caster crank the camber to around -3 you should be fine __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

03-29-2018, 01:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
240se Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: VA Posts: 260 Drives: Gunmetal 12' Rep Power: 12	Assuming that your not exceeding the suggested rim width range for the tire size whats wrong with running four 275/35-19 or four 285/35-19 with staggered size rims?

03-30-2018, 09:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
longlivethez Base Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Phoenix Posts: 105 Drives: 2014 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 164	Well...guess it doesn't matter. Looks like I dragged my feet too long and now they're out of stock. ****.

03-30-2018, 10:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
longlivethez Base Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Phoenix Posts: 105 Drives: 2014 370Z Roadster Rep Power: 164	Looking like I'm going to forgo the square setup...and the RE-11s. Thinking I'm going to go PSS in 255/35/19 front, 295/35/19 in the rear.

04-19-2019, 07:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jmatchley86 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 159 Drives: 2011 370z 6MT Rep Power: 9	I just went to a square set up with RPF1s 18x10.5 +15 all around. My tires are 275/40/18 and they rub slightly in the front on swift springs. Rolled my fender last night and its better but i'm betting a 35 aspect ratio will solve the issue if not vastly improve it. I track my car and daily so on track it shouldn't be an issue but local streets leave alot to be desired for smoothness. looking into a 10mm wider fender but really don't want to spend 1k if a lower aspect tire will solve this issue. Hope this info helps.

04-19-2019, 07:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	A 40 profile tire? That seems like an awful lot of sidewall. Seems like a 30 or even 35 profile tire would have been a better fit. Rusty likes this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

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