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Motion Lab Tuned Nismo 484whp/400wtq @ 12.5psi w/ Vortech impeller on the Stillen S/C

Originally Posted by elperuano What? Did u not read the upgrades n changes made? in case you didn't know or can't seem to comprehend, most of the major components are

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Old 05-09-2013, 10:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What? Did u not read the upgrades n changes made?
in case you didn't know or can't seem to comprehend, most of the major components are still Stillen.
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Cant wait to get my Z up there for y'all to work on! Definitely thinking about doing that impeller upgrade now. Do you think I should go with the Turbosmart BPV you guys used here?
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wow, 400 tq on Stillen kit, that's amazing.
So the only upgrade is the Vortech impeller kit, no other pulley, tubing, MAF upgrades, right?
is it possible to see the pre-VVEL dyno graph on this?

But job well done Motion Lab.


BTW, you've two CBE's listed.
We upgraded the original Impeller with the largest one that Vortech offers for the V3-SCi blower. We also swapped out the injectors and fuel pump to make sure we weren't running high IDC when approaching that 500hp mark. Along with the impeller he also already had the smaller pulley. We have not exceeded the MAF sensors yet, however I think during the last session we were getting pretty damned close.

Well we tuned it when it made 460whp and had already began to play with the VVEL. We were able to pick up even more with additional time on the VVEL calibration, but I would really need the original charts from where he made around 420 or 430whp to reflect the true differences in the mid range. Not sure if he still has that or not.

Also thanks for pointing that out I corrected the list. We moved from the NISMO to the Berk. We also swapped out the Motordyne ART Pipes for GTM Resonated test pipes.

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From what I think OP said was its pretty much no longer a Stillen kit. The title will be confusing to some.
Its still a Stillen kit regarding where it sits and the pipe routing. However since installing the original kit we have upgraded the injectors, fuel pump, supercharger impeller, supercharger pulley, and the BPV. Hes been modding the kit since he got it haha.

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Cant wait to get my Z up there for y'all to work on! Definitely thinking about doing that impeller upgrade now. Do you think I should go with the Turbosmart BPV you guys used here?
Dan,

The impeller upgrade made the power jump up pretty good for sure! He is also running the smaller pulley. I think adding the turbosmart into the mix isn't a bad idea. The Stillen valve isn't bad, its just not designed to be pushing as much boost. It would be a good addition to ensure we weren't leaking boost out of the BPV, but not %100 required for what we have discussed doing on yours currently. I think only until we were pushing 10+ psi did it present an issue. 9-10 psi it seemed to behave fine. The turbosmart also makes cool noises .

Also I will have your Quaife diff sooner than we thought. Itll be here Tomorrow! Ill send you some pictures when it arrives.


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We upgraded the original Impeller with the largest one that Vortech offers for the V3-SCi blower. We also swapped out the injectors and fuel pump to make sure we weren't running high IDC when approaching that 500hp mark. Along with the impeller he also already had the smaller pulley. We have not exceeded the MAF sensors yet, however I think during the last session we were getting pretty damned close.

Well we tuned it when it made 460whp and had already began to play with the VVEL. We were able to pick up even more with additional time on the VVEL calibration, but I would really need the original charts from where he made around 420 or 430whp to reflect the true differences in the mid range. Not sure if he still has that or not.

Also thanks for pointing that out I corrected the list. We moved from the NISMO to the Berk. We also swapped out the Motordyne ART Pipes for GTM Resonated test pipes.



Its still a Stillen kit regarding where it sits and the pipe routing. However since installing the original kit we have upgraded the injectors, fuel pump, supercharger impeller, supercharger pulley, and the BPV. Hes been modding the kit since he got it haha.



Dan,

The impeller upgrade made the power jump up pretty good for sure! He is also running the smaller pulley. I think adding the turbosmart into the mix isn't a bad idea. The Stillen valve isn't bad, its just not designed to be pushing as much boost. It would be a good addition to ensure we weren't leaking boost out of the BPV, but not %100 required for what we have discussed doing on yours currently. I think only until we were pushing 10+ psi did it present an issue. 9-10 psi it seemed to behave fine. The turbosmart also makes cool noises .

Also I will have your Quaife diff sooner than we thought. Itll be here Tomorrow! Ill send you some pictures when it arrives.


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I also have the turbosmart. DO you guys keep it on soft or hard? whats the difference? what is recommended?
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I also have the turbosmart. DO you guys keep it on soft or hard? whats the difference? what is recommended?
Recommended setting is based on the amount of boost you are setup for and how much vacuum is being produced at idle. If the setting is too soft you will suffer from the Hyundai Genesis syndrome (seemingly making boost at idle/fluttery bov operation). Also the piston may not be able to remain closed at idle. If it's set too hard, the valve will not open enough (or at all in some cases). If this happens you will incur compressor surge.

So basically you want to start at the softest setting and with the car running, turn the tension up a bit passed the point where the piston remains closed at idle. Then have a friend rev the car and make sure that the valve opens during the vacuum fluctuations and you're set.

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Recommended setting is based on the amount of boost you are setup for and how much vacuum is being produced at idle. If the setting is too soft you will suffer from the Hyundai Genesis syndrome (seemingly making boost at idle/fluttery bov operation). Also the piston may not be able to remain closed at idle. If it's set too hard, the valve will not open enough (or at all in some cases). If this happens you will incur compressor surge.

So basically you want to start at the softest setting and with the car running, turn the tension up a bit passed the point where the piston remains closed at idle. Then have a friend rev the car and make sure that the valve opens during the vacuum fluctuations and you're set.

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Ok cool makes some sense but you can't adjust that easy with the stillen kit with out having to take the intake completely off. Also I'm not understanding what compressor surge is either?
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''Our customer Nate was amped up and from checking the forums he said we seem to have helped him create the highest HP supercharged 370z ever posted. ''

Well. This is the most over rated comment ever. My bud put down 515whp on dyno jet. No VVEL tuning or meth. GTM 1.5 Supercharger.

Just saying

What type dyno is this?
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Ahh 516 don't cheat me Chris.lol
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Probably means Stillen supercharger...
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He does. Friend of mine.
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Also, I think they have a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Seems to read quite a bit lower than some dynojets in the area, and maybe 1-2% higher than some mustang dynos.
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Nice job guys followed me LOL I made 460 on a AWD auto
An how you made 70 more WTRQ an you guys didn't upgrade the MAF'S
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Nice job guys followed me LOL I made 460 on a AWD auto
An how you made 70 more WTRQ an you guys didn't upgrade the MAF'S
You only have to find the tune the car likes and the HP & TQ will be strong.
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''Our customer Nate was amped up and from checking the forums he said we seem to have helped him create the highest HP supercharged 370z ever posted. ''

Well. This is the most over rated comment ever. My bud put down 515whp on dyno jet. No VVEL tuning or meth. GTM 1.5 Supercharger.

Just saying

What type dyno is this?
This is similar to a Mustang dyno. It is a dynocom FX5000-AWD loaded dyno. It typically reads around %10 lower than a dynojet, but thats a general statement I obviously have no idea how the dynojet your buddy ran on was calibrated or what version of software it was using or if he has the load cell on it.

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Ahh 516 don't cheat me Chris.lol
Congrats on your numbers. This car wasn't using any meth injection either, but it is in consideration for the future.

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in case you didn't know or can't seem to comprehend, most of the major components are still Stillen.
No need to be like that, the owner of the car and us realize that it is still a Stillen kit.

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Nice job guys followed me LOL I made 460 on a AWD auto
An how you made 70 more WTRQ an you guys didn't upgrade the MAF'S
Your car took a lot more work to get to the same power level due to the higher drivetrain loss from the automatic, and AWD, drivetrain. Great numbers from your set-up!

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No need to be like that, the owner of the car and us realize that it is still a Stillen kit.
my comment wasn't meant for you Alex. You guys did a good job.
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