EcuTek is proud to announce the release of ProECU Tuning Tools for the Nissan 370Z

XwChriswX

That's awesome that it will be capable of having all these features tuned, which for the non-tuner, showing an image of 500 tables to which someone without knowledge would just say... that's nice... doesn't really tell me anything.

My question was simple, When can I as a prospective client, go to an ECUTek tuner, and get a Full tuning package done, not the halfway stuff they're doing now, or a "beta". But everything all at once...

"I Don't Know." is an acceptable answer.

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JARblue

My tune is not halfway... it is at least equal to what UpRev can do.

Everything available now could easily constitute a "full tuning package"... there's a few features not yet available (multiple maps and traction control stuff, I think). Everything else is good to go as far as I'm aware... now it's just a matter of getting data logged, cars tuned, and more information to the general public. If you want everything all at once, I'm not sure anyone knows when that will be. Maybe call EcuTek...

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XwChriswX

My term "Halfway" is in reference to what ECUTek can do now, vs what they claim they can do later. I understand you feel a certain loyalty to them for doing your tune, but I'm talking bigger picture.

These are the features that make ECUTek claim they are better than UpRev, which by your own admission their current suite is no different. So I am asking when will these features that could potentially make them superior be standard with someone walking in with a tune...

And that's all I'm asking them for, either a date, or a ball park figure, or a "we don't know yet".

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JARblue

So having multiple maps and TCS control is "half" of the tune? I don't think so... I don't know of any other potential features that aren't available at this time.

And I didn't say the suite was the same... I said my tune is the same (minus the multiple maps).

UpRev doesn't do VVEL, EcuTek does - it's just a matter of getting cars tuned and data out there. If someone told you a specific date, and that date comes around and there aren't any cars tuned with it even though the software is available, my guess is you still wouldn't be satisfied. But like I said, call EcuTek...

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XwChriswX

UpRev can do multiple maps too

There has been VVEL work with UpRev as well, and it's been documented on here. So it's nothing new, they may just be farther along.

So they haven't actually Done anything to substantiate their claims of superiority yet. A pre-mature thread with future claims of greatness is one thing, when it is what it is. But they say we're good to go Now. But they aren't. There hasn't been anything reliably proven yet that would make anyone want to get theirs vs uprev, or consider switching.

I ask because of this fact, and they say/do nothing in response. I know you're not the only person ECUTek tuned, and I'm glad you posted a partial review. That's awesome that they hooked you up. But can you honestly say if you Hadn't got as good of a deal as you did, would you have still chosen ECUTek over UpRev??

I'd be plenty satisfied with a date, because that means anytime After that date, I could call a tuner (which I plan to do) and get information on the cost to go from UpRev to ECUTek, and then have my car Fully tuned with the Full software to take Full advantage of Every feature ECUTek boasts about.

Isn't that the point..??

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JARblue

Chris, just a few responses. I think we're all on the same page here - just different perspectives. Frankly, I think HotrodZ nailed it pretty good

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XwChriswX

No worries, completely agree.


I'm not hating on ECUTek at all, I want to see their product come out, and I want to see good gains so that when I get the $$ set aside, I can go to RTTuning and get mine done.

I just don't wanna have to go back multiple times as new features get released cause it's a long trip.

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elperuano

Who's got VVEL work done thru ECUtek?

No one has multiple maps with ECUtek. It's not even complete yet. I believe that's what he means. Too much talk of "potential" and no actual proof yet.

It's still a waitin game with the ECUtek software for it to be "superior". If u want a e-tune then you can get those all day. Just like u can get e-tunes from uprev all day.

The correct way to present ECUtek is to offer people another tuning option that is absolutely NO different than Uprev (except ECUtek is higher priced). When ECUtek has all the other features ready to go then you can claim superiority.

JARblue

Please read the posts first... I did not say ANYONE has messed with VVEL. However, it is ready for messing with. You can sit on the sidelines waiting for results or jump in and get them yourself.

I said the multiple maps feature, along with TCS control, is still in the works and not yet ready. Are you really waiting for these two features to get a tune? I doubt it.

It's not a waiting game from EcuTek. It's a waiting game from the Z community. Cars need to be tuned first... that's what needs to happen to prove "superiority". EcuTek releasing a few more features obviously isn't going to satisfy many people if the features aren't proven.

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XwChriswX

You didn't say people who Do VVEL tuning, but you're quick to claim who doesn't.

Most of the people "sitting on the sidelines" are those who can't really afford to drop 600 on a tune, to have to drop another couple of hundred on another tune, or getting that tune fixed. There's nothing wrong with being cautious about the Tuning side of modding. That's the area I give the most respect to the tuners and let them work their magic. But I want to know it's the best one out there, as would anyone else, yourself included.

People aren't waiting for specific features to come out, they're waiting on the Claims that these features make someone superior to be qualified and quantified. UpRev has been out for the 370Z for going on 4 years, and several hundred Z's have been tuned on it. Both boosted and N/A. How many of those have gone wrong due to errors in the tuning software alone? So, UpRev have established a track record of safe, effective tunes. Good for them.

ECUTek is coming along and promoting their product (like any good business will do), claiming to be vastly superior to UpRev in every way. OK, cool. Show me how you've reinvented the wheel. You say I wouldn't be pleased even if they showed me their improvements, but you'd be wrong. If they can actually DO everything they say they "will be able to in time" then awesome. I'm all for an ECUTek tune. I'd like to see the improved features as would anyone else, especially the boosted guys.

They gave you a good deal, so you support them. Good. You come on here and post your review, and for the small amount of modding you have done, you are pleased. Good. But, where are your dyno runs as well to show the specific gains, and how the ECUTek tune gave you those gains vs if you had gone elsewhere? I did not see them the last time I checked your thread...
Everyone knows with this platform you have to do a lot to pull every last HP out of this motor. So that is why it is being criticized so much, if you want to make big claims about superiority, then you had better expect people to go "yeah, right". That's when you drop all of your research and testing, and proof that you've put in the time and effort and have in fact released a better product. Then everyone will be and throwing their money at you.

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